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SCD is NOT a Dancing Competition!
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Sid_1979
16-11-2008
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Its not appropriate though to vote in a dancing competition for someone who makes the judges angry when he stays or even for someone who is funny.”

People can spend their hard earned cash voting for whatever reason they see fit.
CaptainSensible
16-11-2008
It is a competition for me, and I've every right to see it that way.

Crap dancers can be entertaing, but when the remaining not-John celebs in this year's show are all decent dancers with the potential to get better if they have more time on the show, it ceases to become a 'larf.
CASPER1066
16-11-2008
Point tho..........its the public keeping John in and the public putting the others out...all in the public's hands.
yohinnchild
16-11-2008
I thought it was called Strictly come DANCING
Sid_1979
16-11-2008
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“I thought it was called Strictly come DANCING”

It is, and John danced along with the rest of them tonight.
Paace
16-11-2008
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Point tho..........its the public keeping John in and the public putting the others out...all in the public's hands.”

It's not just 'the public' meaning everyone but a certain section voting for John, the same as there are lots of 'the public' voting for the other celebs.
soulmate61
16-11-2008
It is a vote determined by perhaps two million members of GBP, not 500 forum vigilantes.

Tony Blaire did not win a competition, he won an election.
I Observer
16-11-2008
The vote for the worst mentality goes against all the plans and hopes of the producers. However, it does make the show unpredictable and therefore more interesting.

Those of us who supported Rachel as winner of BB9 were delighted that those who the producers deemed 'entertaining', were evicted week after week.
CASPER1066
16-11-2008
Originally Posted by Paace:
“It's not just 'the public' meaning everyone but a
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“certain section voting for John,”

the same as there are lots of 'the public' voting for the other celebs.”

That certain section........is the public......
CASPER1066
16-11-2008
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“It is a vote determined by perhaps two million members of GBP, not 500 forum vigilantes.

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“Tony Blaire”

did not win a competition, he won an election.”

I missed him, who was he dancing with.
soulmate61
16-11-2008
Cherie of course. Didn't you know?
Judge Dread
16-11-2008
The popular guy will be leading the public vote.

Well, logically, he would have to be!
fredster
16-11-2008
Originally Posted by Judge Dread:
“I'd be lying if I said I had not put a few votes his way. But there are a lot of people who have backed him at big odds. And I mean - A LOT.

I guess they would all be protecting their investments too, maybe?”

the Judges comments have been highly respected on the DS Big Brother forums . So kindly do the same on here.
cheekyjonbon
16-11-2008
Originally Posted by Judge Dread:
“Yes it's a competition - but not a DANCING competition.

Otherwise, John would have been out WEEKS ago!

No, it's a POPULARITY competition as I said in my original post. ”

So Call it Strictly Come Popularity then. If the dancing isn't important then why do they try. They might as well do a John because I find him an arrogant sxd who cannot dance and has the personatlity of a wet fish. Oh the GBP are sticking one up the judges well give me a break. Let's just get Ricky Gervais on to take the pxss out of dancing and let him win because he is a funny man. I happen to think at this stage dancing should be a pre requisite and voting for uncle knobhead has now become a joke too far.
Birdie65
16-11-2008
Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“Or perhaps those who are after a serious dance competiton should subscribe to a sports channel and leave the rest of us to enjoy some light entertainment?

Or, we can all get what we want by enjoying both the talented dancers and the celebrities that are good value.”

You can do that?? I would love to know which sports channels show ballroom/latin dancing.
Judge Dread
17-11-2008
Originally Posted by cheekyjonbon:
“So Call it Strictly Come Popularity then. If the dancing isn't important then why do they try. They might as well do a John because I find him an arrogant sxd who cannot dance and has the personatlity of a wet fish. Oh the GBP are sticking one up the judges well give me a break. Let's just get Ricky Gervais on to take the pxss out of dancing and let him win because he is a funny man. I happen to think at this stage dancing should be a pre requisite and voting for uncle knobhead has now become a joke too far.”

Just shows how out of touch with the general public some people on here really are!
trunkster
17-11-2008
Originally Posted by Judge Dread:
“Get this straight:-

SCD is NOT a Dancing Competition.
X Factor is NOT a Singing Competition.

They are BOTH Popularity Contests.

Once you accept that, all becomes clear.





I am absolutely laughing my socks off at how well John Sergeant is doing. Everyone is talking about the quality of the dancing - but is COMPLETELY missing the point.

This is a Saturday evening prime-time ENTERTAINMENT show. It is NOT a Dancing Competition.

John's progress is becoming the weekend highlight for millions of people and he will probably win.”

I agree lets have the vote before the dance, in fact to save time lets scrap the whole dancing bit and just vote for who we like the look of
daisybee79
17-11-2008
It is a contest where personalities are asked to train and learn a new dance each week and perform it for the judges and the public.

Its 50/50.

If it were all about the technical elements of dancing then ITT would be pretty boring-that is the personality portion where people make judgements on the characters they see training etc.

To say it is all about popularity however is not on, that is what BB is for.

JS is not at fault, the show is never a level playing field to begin with, however what I do find annoying is the whole idea that his smile and cheeky humour should get him through each week, as it negates all the hard work of the other couples who go all out to improve-something proved by the scoreboard this year-the order is constantly shifting as they try harder and harder.

JS seems lovely, but he has not really made an effort to improve, he just coasts along really and that is something I find a bit insulting.

SCD is clever because they never say the BEST dancer wins, they just say the champ, so it is subjective I guess. They cover their backs!! LOL.
melvin_m_melvin
17-11-2008
Originally Posted by Judge Dread:
“Get this straight:-

SCD is NOT a Dancing Competition.
X Factor is NOT a Singing Competition.

They are BOTH Popularity Contests.

Once you accept that, all becomes clear.
”

That's what's wrong with both of them; it doesn't mean to say that we have to "accept" it.

Most people have forgotten or are missing the point of the title: 'Come DANCING' (John) and 'Strictly' meaning the judging is unforgiving. What's the point of either when some buffoon can stumble through every week and still win the whole thing?
Veri
17-11-2008
SCD is clearly a dance competition, rather than, say, a swimming one.

That it's also supposed to be entertaining, and to involve the public with a vote, does not stop it from being a dance competition.
The_abbott
17-11-2008
X-Factor

Strictley Come DANCING.

Your right there is no "singing" in X-Factor. Your looking for someone that has that "X-Factor" regardless how rubbish their singing is.

SCD has dancing in the title to give people a clue what it is the celebs are meant to be doing.
melvin_m_melvin
17-11-2008
Originally Posted by Veri:
“SCD is clearly a dance competition, rather than, say, a swimming one.

That it's also supposed to be entertaining, and to involve the public with a vote, does not stop it from being a dance competition.”

Like you, Veri, but let's be honest -- TV co's first included phone votes to boost their own revenue. Now the Beeb have been hoisted by their own petard
yenston
17-11-2008
The judges view it as a dance competition- to an extent. If it were a real dance competition Craig, Arlene and Bruno would not be on the panel. They'd also not be allowed on ITT to view training footage and comment on it before actually seeing them dance.

I also think the pro's view it as a dance competition too. This part of it has always amused me to a certain degree. In my view it's the celeb that wins it, not the professional. Their dancing isn't being judged. Yet, we always read the same stuff on Anton not having won it. No, whoever his celeb partner is has never won it.

I'd love to see a spin-off show where all the pro partnerships dance (ballroom and latin) and are judged to see who comes out on top. The thing is, as stated above, 3 of the judges wouldn't be able to judge it!

As for the main issue atm, I think John being voted in time and again reflects something in the British make-up. We back losers rather than winners. Talent isn't celebrated in this country, being talentless is. But it does also reflect the British sense of humour and the fact we don't take ourselves too seriously. So it's horses for courses!
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