...JS wouldn't get through.

Stop moaning and get dialling. You are not voting enough.

I do wonder how many of those outraged by each week's result actually voted to save the latest departee?

If viewers are concerned about the fate of the so-called brilliant dancers, then they should pick up their phones and do something about it.

Votes speak louder than words.

I do vote every week and voted this week but I am one person against what is now becoming a legion of John voters- see the other posts on the matter including the My Space that with one click you can vote for John 100 times.

This is what annoys most people I think.

I have no problem if dedicated viewers are voting for John, like you Sid, but when people are voting because of negative press reports then its not the same old competition anymore.

This week for the first time I have really lost heart with it all- and I have no doubt that some of the competitors have too- after all if you trained for a large part of the week knowing that it may not make a blind bit of difference then it may take the gloss off the show.

yes i agree.
sat night was the first time i voted (for Rachel) other then that i've never voted despite having a few different favourites ie cherie, austin, lisa...

Exactly - where were all those fans of Cherie and Lisa, they couldn’t have been too bothered about keeping them in because it was a near certainty that one of them would end up in the dance off if they didn’t get the public support, in previous years when I had a favourite dancer (I don’t have one this year) and they were near the bottom of the leader board I have voted to make sure they were safe.

All the 'good' dancers have a head start of at least one place. The only thing going wrong is no one is voting for them!

Agreed, agreed and agreed.

I don't like to see a situation where talent is ignored for some bizarre hate campaign or protest vote. If I genuinely thought all John's support was coming from those who simply found him most entertaining then I'd not be so bothered by it, but that's clearly not the case any more...

And for the record I did vote for my favourite dancers this week so I'll moan away, thanks very much

This site really exists? Really???

Does anyone here have the link......?

Hey FF,

Commisserations regarding Cherie - I know she was a favourite of yours

You're right. I never vote out of protest, only for performances that stand out, and John's AS was no exception this week. It was so graceful.

However, I acknowledge that there are a fraction of supporters that will be voting for other reasons, such as rebelling against the judges. And in a sense, I don't blame them. Perhaps if the judges stuck to their job by delivering the scores instead of dictating to the public who they should and should not vote for, they would not face a backlash year after year.

For me it's the judges and the likes of James Jordan that are taking the shine off the show.

Probably the type who are busy complaining at ofcom

....or just perhaps except that some people aren't popular.

Don't get mad get even. Get out there and create a click once vote for xxxx (enter favourite dancer) 200 times then!

Thanks honey- and for the record I loved their AS this week in some ways if they are to go soon I hope its on a high like that!

And Kez- thats not the spirit that I like to live life with thanks

Have a <smooch> to take your mind of it

But by delivering their scores they're always essentially telling the public who to vote for - they're saying 'we think these people are the best' so that's unavoidable.

The public of course don't have to listen but to vote solely to disagree seems rather childish. Cutting off your nose to spite your face springs to mind.

There is an air that this cannot be turned around - a defeatist attitude. We don't know how many votes John gets. It is just assumed that catching him is insummountable. I suspect that means there is more apathy for voting in general and becomes a self fufilling prophecy.

I don't vote at all but I am getting annoyed at the sheer number of moaners (nowhere near as many when Chris or Julian made the final) and it is exactly the same situation - apart from the fact we are still weeks away from the final.

I thought John would go this week. He had to beat Cherie and Lisa and I thought they would be really well supported in that vunerable position.

The x 100 votes must be paid for or there would be outrage as phone scandals lead to huge fines and publcity the like of which the BBC don't need.

No by delivering the scores the judges are giving their opinion of who danced best. It doesn't mean they are automatically our favourites too.

I think we need to accept that popularity, personality, entertainment value, sex appeal, and a host of other factors also influence how we vote.

What appeals to the judges, might not appeal to the viewers and vice versa. It's certainly not childish to disagree with the judges. It's called a difference of opinion. What's childish is the judges throwing their toys out their pram whenever the voting doesn't go their way.

If the BBC want better dancers all the time they need to ditch public vote and make it judges and studio vote (exc friends and family seats). That would do away with judges bias a bit and probably do away with crazed public vote. Until then we have to live with the rules as they are and the less the good dancers get votes the more chance JS has of make the semi and final.

I personally don't think he will get that far.

Do you mean to say that I only have to click on a link on My Space and someone/something will automatically dial John's number 100 times on a Saturday night on my behalf. At a cost of 15 quid to them, and zilch to me?
In that case please PM me the link immediately, as it'll save me 60p each week.
To the best of my knowledge you can only vote for John (and any of the other contestants) by phone on the night, after the dance, and before a certain time - usually 9pm.

I'm curious to know the size of the vote. I voted for Lisa & Brendan on Saturday night. I must have tried six or seven times and found the line engaged. I persevered but i wonder how many people who tried in the first half an hour after the voting lines opened gave up and didn't vote.

......or their are 6 others to chose from whilst your just voting John. So unless those that vote on the dance vote all 6 then thats not going to happen is it OP.

I'm waiting for that Myspace link. I mean, it DOES exist and you're not just reporting rumour to substantiate your argument, right?

PS I don't vote but if I did it'd be for John last week because his dance touched me.

You're completely missing my point.

By very definition the judges are saying 'this is who we think the public should vote for' by ranking them in order of best to worst. It's who they deem as worthy to go through to the next round. They are also well aware that the public may not agree with them and it's the nature of the competition. Of course they're going to get annoyed when good dancers go out - they rightly know that they are far more knowledgeable about dancing than most of the general public and they want to see good dancers triumph. I think it speaks more about the person voting if they need to put in a protest vote because they believe someone off the tele is telling them what to do.

It is incredibly childish to vote JUST to be difficult in the form of 'well I'm voting like this to annoy the judges as much as possible'. It's the sort of behaviour I expect to see in the more immature children I teach because it is silly logic. Similarly it doesn't seem right to me to vote simply as some sort of protest or through pity. Neither are exactly positive voting, are they? It's not the old 'voting for your favourites' that the public vote is meant to be about.

If John is people's favourite I have no problem with that. If they're voting for other reasons I think that leaves a far nastier 'taste' on this competition than anything the judges have ever said.

Is X Factor and SCD voting done at the same time? Because perhaps that could explain the overload - the national phone system only has so much capacity.

I vote from my mobile and have never had a problem getting through in 6 series of voting.

how much does that cost

If the moaners spent as much of their time voting for their 'brilliant' dancer........ we'd all be poor! When will people realise that we British love nothing more than a scandal and a good old moan?!