Why do I get ITV2 through a normal aerial?

nutty88 · 17-10-2003, 20:54

It baffles me why I get it. It's not a perfect picture but I get sound and a fuzzy picture which is still watchable. I was going to play my PS2 earlier and I noticed something coming through on the channel I use.I moved the aerial around and suddenly it was there. We have Sky downstairs but thats on a different channel. Any ideas why? I'm on the Black Hill transmitter.

djchrissy · 17-10-2003, 21:51

someone living close by may be using an illeegal video sender. It could also be a "cable leak" - when one or two channels of cable tv somehow can be picked up on normal analogue thru aerial. Both have been known 2 happen

Are you sure its ITV2 - and you werent just watching a long promo for ITV 2?

nutty88 · 17-10-2003, 22:33

It's ITV2 for sure. It's full programming. If it was someone using a video sender wouldn't it have had a press red banner on the screen during Pop Idol Extra earlier. I don't know about your "cable leak" theory. There's no cable tv in my area, none for a few miles. It is weird. It comes up on ch36 just before Five. Why ITV2 I would've preffered something else.

GaryB · 18-10-2003, 00:01

It could also be from someone's a DTT box leaking out of their aerial and into yours. Remember, an RF modulator is just a very low powered TV transmitter.

djchrissy · 18-10-2003, 08:46

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If it was someone using a video sender wouldn't it have had a press red banner on the screen during Pop Idol Extra earlier

not if it was sourced from DTT because freeview does not have interactive on ITV2.

The theory about the RF Modulator sound quite likely.

Can you take a screenshot - is the picture still their? and does the picture sort of fade in and out?

Jim Rae · 18-10-2003, 13:31

As the only way you can receive ITV2 is by terrestial digital or by satellite digital receiver, (you have no cable nearby anyway), then it stands to reason that there is a Freeview or Sky box nearby which is picking it up and somehow passing it to you on an RF frequency.

First suspect would be your own digibox - switch it off - does the ITV2 picture go away?

If not, it's one of your neighbours who is "leaking".

Check late at night to see if they change it to porn, then you might guess which neighbour it is...

nutty88 · 18-10-2003, 14:21

I know it's not our digibox. We have Sky downstairs as well as upstairs. The one upstairs is only used for NASN. The one downstairs was on a completly different channel. All around me my neighbours have either got Freeview or Sky Digital. As it's a comunal areial and dish.

djchrissy · 18-10-2003, 14:45

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As it's a comunal areial and dish.

ah, that makes it very likely the signal is from the freeview box in one of your neighbours flats. Somehow their Output may be conencted into the RF Input on their wall?

this could be piping it around the flats. If you are good friends with anyone in the flats, tune their tv and see if they can get ITV 2

nutty88 · 18-10-2003, 17:33

Quote:

ah, that makes it very likely the signal is from the freeview box in one of your neighbours flats. Somehow their Output may be conencted into the RF Input on their wall?

But I'm not picking it up using the comunal aerial I'm using a small indoor one.Plus it ain't flats either. All the houses in the street are connected to the aerial. I can't get it downstairs on the TV thats connected to the comunal one. This just gets more strange as this post goes on.

wonderb0y · 18-10-2003, 22:29

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Jim Rae · 19-10-2003, 00:02

Which direction does your indoor aerial point to - is there a house in line of sight?

You must be getting a spurious RF signal from a box somewhere - unless the Black Hill transmitter is secretly sending out ITV2 signals - which I think is not allowed...

chilpillphil · 19-10-2003, 00:07

its really wierd, must be a freeview box

djchrissy · 19-10-2003, 10:51

yup, its definetly from a freeview decoder - not sky. If it was from a sky decoder - you would see the "press red" in the corner

chilpillphil · 19-10-2003, 11:14

Quote:

Originally posted by djchrissy
yup, its definetly from a freeview decoder - not sky. If it was from a sky decoder - you would see the "press red" in the corner

they dont have them on freeview

MDX · 19-10-2003, 11:34

Quote:

Originally posted by djchrissy
yup, its definetly from a freeview decoder - not sky. If it was from a sky decoder - you would see the "press red" in the corner

but he said it had a press red logo read his posts.

djchrissy · 20-10-2003, 09:54

sorry - got mixed up

djchrissy · 20-10-2003, 09:54

sorry - got mixed up

nutty88 · 20-10-2003, 13:58

I think now for sure it's from a freeview box. As yesterday it was showing CBBC channel then when that went off air it came up with the off air thingy with the channel numbers for FreeView. I also moved my aeirial a bit and now get it in colour. Stranger and stranger.

Jim Rae · 20-10-2003, 16:24

That does indeed confirm the source as a Freeview box if it's the blue 'close down' caption...

Gozzauk · 20-10-2003, 16:43

My brother could pick up ITV2 on his tv a couple of years ago. No freeview boxes then. Only ITV digital. but now u can't get it so I think it must be a leakage. Maybe from an old ITV digital box.

djchrissy · 20-10-2003, 18:44

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My brother could pick up ITV2 on his tv a couple of years ago. No freeview boxes then. Only ITV digital. but now u can't get it so I think it must be a leakage. Maybe from an old ITV digital box.

er, ITV2 Can be picked up with freeview. OnDigital boxes and freeview boxes are the same thing.

or did i misunderstand what you said

eddieh · 20-10-2003, 19:03

Quote:

Originally posted by djchrissy
er, ITV2 Can be picked up with freeview. OnDigital boxes and freeview boxes are the same thing.

or did i misunderstand what you said

True

winja · 20-10-2003, 19:08

Quote:

Originally posted by nutty88
But I'm not picking it up using the comunal aerial I'm using a small indoor one.Plus it ain't flats either. All the houses in the street are connected to the aerial. I can't get it downstairs on the TV thats connected to the comunal one. This just gets more strange as this post goes on.

If you live in a house which is wired as part of a communual system, you will more than likely have amplified cable running through your loft space, or somewhere similar. If one of your neighbours has a FTV box this would maybe explain why you are picking up a radiated signal from upstairs with a "telly top aerial", its picking it up through the cable!!

Gozzauk · 20-10-2003, 19:15

Maybr it is only old ITV digital boxes that interfere with terrestrial.

David (2) · 22-10-2003, 20:10

Some kind of leakage or amplifier with poor screening. I have noticed the same sort of thing.

We have 1 Sky box which is then connected to a booster/distribution box - so we Sky in (all the same channel) in all 3 rooms in the house down the aerial wire. With this swithed on, signals leak out into the air - and I can prove it. I have a Casio pocket tv with telescopic aerial. Put this in auto scan, and it will pick up our Sky signal (near the top end of the tuning scale). Remember - their is no cable connection linking the pocket tv to the main system!

17-10-2003, 20:54	#1
nutty88 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 152	Why do I get ITV2 through a normal aerial? It baffles me why I get it. It's not a perfect picture but I get sound and a fuzzy picture which is still watchable. I was going to play my PS2 earlier and I noticed something coming through on the channel I use.I moved the aerial around and suddenly it was there. We have Sky downstairs but thats on a different channel. Any ideas why? I'm on the Black Hill transmitter.

20-10-2003, 16:43	#20
Gozzauk Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 286	New reporting My brother could pick up ITV2 on his tv a couple of years ago. No freeview boxes then. Only ITV digital. but now u can't get it so I think it must be a leakage. Maybe from an old ITV digital box.

17-10-2003, 21:51	#2
djchrissy Banned User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wycombe Ghetto, Bucks, England / Crystal Palace Transmitter / Posts: 2,725	someone living close by may be using an illeegal video sender. It could also be a "cable leak" - when one or two channels of cable tv somehow can be picked up on normal analogue thru aerial. Both have been known 2 happen Are you sure its ITV2 - and you werent just watching a long promo for ITV 2?

17-10-2003, 22:33	#3
nutty88 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 152	It's ITV2 for sure. It's full programming. If it was someone using a video sender wouldn't it have had a press red banner on the screen during Pop Idol Extra earlier. I don't know about your "cable leak" theory. There's no cable tv in my area, none for a few miles. It is weird. It comes up on ch36 just before Five. Why ITV2 I would've preffered something else.

18-10-2003, 00:01	#4
GaryB Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Albans Posts: 4,088	It could also be from someone's a DTT box leaking out of their aerial and into yours. Remember, an RF modulator is just a very low powered TV transmitter.

18-10-2003, 08:46	#5
djchrissy Banned User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wycombe Ghetto, Bucks, England / Crystal Palace Transmitter / Posts: 2,725	Quote: If it was someone using a video sender wouldn't it have had a press red banner on the screen during Pop Idol Extra earlier not if it was sourced from DTT because freeview does not have interactive on ITV2. The theory about the RF Modulator sound quite likely. Can you take a screenshot - is the picture still their? and does the picture sort of fade in and out?

18-10-2003, 13:31	#6
Jim Rae Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 4,125	As the only way you can receive ITV2 is by terrestial digital or by satellite digital receiver, (you have no cable nearby anyway), then it stands to reason that there is a Freeview or Sky box nearby which is picking it up and somehow passing it to you on an RF frequency. First suspect would be your own digibox - switch it off - does the ITV2 picture go away? If not, it's one of your neighbours who is "leaking". Check late at night to see if they change it to porn, then you might guess which neighbour it is...

18-10-2003, 14:21	#7
nutty88 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 152	I know it's not our digibox. We have Sky downstairs as well as upstairs. The one upstairs is only used for NASN. The one downstairs was on a completly different channel. All around me my neighbours have either got Freeview or Sky Digital. As it's a comunal areial and dish.

18-10-2003, 14:45	#8
djchrissy Banned User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wycombe Ghetto, Bucks, England / Crystal Palace Transmitter / Posts: 2,725	Quote: As it's a comunal areial and dish. ah, that makes it very likely the signal is from the freeview box in one of your neighbours flats. Somehow their Output may be conencted into the RF Input on their wall? this could be piping it around the flats. If you are good friends with anyone in the flats, tune their tv and see if they can get ITV 2

18-10-2003, 17:33	#9
nutty88 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 152	Quote: ah, that makes it very likely the signal is from the freeview box in one of your neighbours flats. Somehow their Output may be conencted into the RF Input on their wall? But I'm not picking it up using the comunal aerial I'm using a small indoor one.Plus it ain't flats either. All the houses in the street are connected to the aerial. I can't get it downstairs on the TV thats connected to the comunal one. This just gets more strange as this post goes on.

18-10-2003, 22:29	#10
wonderb0y Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1,283	Maybe jesus loves you? He loves me

19-10-2003, 00:02	#11
Jim Rae Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 4,125	Which direction does your indoor aerial point to - is there a house in line of sight? You must be getting a spurious RF signal from a box somewhere - unless the Black Hill transmitter is secretly sending out ITV2 signals - which I think is not allowed...

19-10-2003, 00:07	#12
chilpillphil Banned User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: swindon, uk Posts: 2,015	its really wierd, must be a freeview box

19-10-2003, 10:51	#13
djchrissy Banned User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wycombe Ghetto, Bucks, England / Crystal Palace Transmitter / Posts: 2,725	yup, its definetly from a freeview decoder - not sky. If it was from a sky decoder - you would see the "press red" in the corner

19-10-2003, 11:14	#14
chilpillphil Banned User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: swindon, uk Posts: 2,015	Quote: Originally posted by djchrissy yup, its definetly from a freeview decoder - not sky. If it was from a sky decoder - you would see the "press red" in the corner they dont have them on freeview

19-10-2003, 11:34	#15
MDX Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,829	Quote: Originally posted by djchrissy yup, its definetly from a freeview decoder - not sky. If it was from a sky decoder - you would see the "press red" in the corner but he said it had a press red logo read his posts.

20-10-2003, 09:54	#16
djchrissy Banned User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wycombe Ghetto, Bucks, England / Crystal Palace Transmitter / Posts: 2,725	sorry - got mixed up

20-10-2003, 13:58	#18
nutty88 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 152	I think now for sure it's from a freeview box. As yesterday it was showing CBBC channel then when that went off air it came up with the off air thingy with the channel numbers for FreeView. I also moved my aeirial a bit and now get it in colour. Stranger and stranger.

20-10-2003, 16:24	#19
Jim Rae Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayrshire Posts: 4,125	That does indeed confirm the source as a Freeview box if it's the blue 'close down' caption...

20-10-2003, 18:44	#21
djchrissy Banned User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wycombe Ghetto, Bucks, England / Crystal Palace Transmitter / Posts: 2,725	Quote: My brother could pick up ITV2 on his tv a couple of years ago. No freeview boxes then. Only ITV digital. but now u can't get it so I think it must be a leakage. Maybe from an old ITV digital box. er, ITV2 Can be picked up with freeview. OnDigital boxes and freeview boxes are the same thing. or did i misunderstand what you said

20-10-2003, 19:03	#22
eddieh Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southampton Posts: 1,427	Quote: Originally posted by djchrissy er, ITV2 Can be picked up with freeview. OnDigital boxes and freeview boxes are the same thing. or did i misunderstand what you said True

20-10-2003, 19:08	#23
winja Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: cornwall Posts: 146	Quote: Originally posted by nutty88 But I'm not picking it up using the comunal aerial I'm using a small indoor one.Plus it ain't flats either. All the houses in the street are connected to the aerial. I can't get it downstairs on the TV thats connected to the comunal one. This just gets more strange as this post goes on. If you live in a house which is wired as part of a communual system, you will more than likely have amplified cable running through your loft space, or somewhere similar. If one of your neighbours has a FTV box this would maybe explain why you are picking up a radiated signal from upstairs with a "telly top aerial", its picking it up through the cable!!

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Why do I get ITV2 through a normal aerial?

20-10-2003, 19:15	#24
Gozzauk Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Essex Posts: 286	Maybr it is only old ITV digital boxes that interfere with terrestrial.

22-10-2003, 20:10	#25
David (2) Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: S.West England. Posts: 18,037	Some kind of leakage or amplifier with poor screening. I have noticed the same sort of thing. We have 1 Sky box which is then connected to a booster/distribution box - so we Sky in (all the same channel) in all 3 rooms in the house down the aerial wire. With this swithed on, signals leak out into the air - and I can prove it. I have a Casio pocket tv with telescopic aerial. Put this in auto scan, and it will pick up our Sky signal (near the top end of the tuning scale). Remember - their is no cable connection linking the pocket tv to the main system!