Originally Posted by Suzeie:
“Yeah (unfortunately for those of us who have tickets! Can. Not. Stand. That. Woman)
”
“Yeah (unfortunately for those of us who have tickets! Can. Not. Stand. That. Woman)
”
Why?
Cherie very angry
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Originally Posted by jules1000:
“Why do I need evidence? Yes it is an opinion, but that is what I think after having watched her in his company. No harm in having an opinion.”
“Why do I need evidence?
Yes it is an opinion, but that is what I think after having watched her in his company. No harm in having an opinion.”
Of course there's not.
But if you chose to make that opinion public you should be prepared for the fact that some people will think that opinion is pretty daft, and will exercise their right to say so.
I do think this is a daft opinion, I have seen little to suggest that Cherie has a crush on James, and that is why I would be interested to hear if you have anything more substantial than "I think" to add, in order to firm up your point.
Originally Posted by Satnavvy:
“Whereas John's was dance heaven
”
“Whereas John's was dance heaven
”
John's dancing was competent on Saturday night. But what he did better than any of the other celebrities was engage the public in his performances.
Dancing is like music. A singer can hit all the right notes, but unless there is soul in their voice, they aren't going to move people with their performances. Like it or not, Cherie did not compel viewers to vote for her - that's not John's fault, it's hers. There was something lacking in her performance which excellent technique and exquisite lines could not make up for.
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Of course there's not.
But if you chose to make that opinion public you should be prepared for the fact that some people will think that opinion is pretty daft, and will exercise their right to say so.
I do think this is a daft opinion, I have seen little to suggest that Cherie has a crush on James, and that is why I would be interested to hear if you have anything more substantial than "I think" to add, in order to firm up your point.”
“Of course there's not.
But if you chose to make that opinion public you should be prepared for the fact that some people will think that opinion is pretty daft, and will exercise their right to say so.
I do think this is a daft opinion, I have seen little to suggest that Cherie has a crush on James, and that is why I would be interested to hear if you have anything more substantial than "I think" to add, in order to firm up your point.”
I'm happy to accept you think it's a daft opinion
but I don't think it is.
I am sure Cherie is hacked off at being knocked out,she is not as good as she thought she was IMO.
BUT her departure was only a week or so premature,there can only be one winner after all and there are better all-rounders in the comp than her..
BUT her departure was only a week or so premature,there can only be one winner after all and there are better all-rounders in the comp than her..
I am not saying Cherie should have won the dance off, but I can see why she would be angry. I personally enjoyed watching her dance. I don't really like Lisa but she was better technically.
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“I think Cherie is very bitter about being voted out and John staying in the competition because she had an almighty crush on James and won't be able to dance with HIM anymore.”
“I think Cherie is very bitter about being voted out and John staying in the competition because she had an almighty crush on James and won't be able to dance with HIM anymore.”
So the thread title is 100% incorrect as a statement of fact then, and is only your opinion?
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“I'm happy to accept you think it's a daft opinion but I don't think it is.”
“I'm happy to accept you think it's a daft opinion
but I don't think it is.”
Yes, that's clear. I'm just asking if you're able to add more ballast to your point?
Or maybe you could edit the thread title to reflect that it is merely opinion, rather than absolute fact?
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“I think Cherie is very bitter about being voted out and John staying in the competition because she had an almighty crush on James and won't be able to dance with HIM anymore.”
“I think Cherie is very bitter about being voted out and John staying in the competition because she had an almighty crush on James and won't be able to dance with HIM anymore.”
Originally Posted by Alli-F:
“I'd stop digging now if I was you!”
“I'd stop digging now if I was you!
”
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“Why?”
“Why?
”
Firstly I didn't think she was that great a dancer, nice lines aren't really enough for me and her latin was awful but I also never warmed to her. I'm willing to acknowledge that that is just my own personal opinion, and I'm not going to use the 's' word (y'know the one with 'mug' in the middle) but she just always came across as cold, superior and sneering and I think her reaction and comments on 'Johngate' are showing a less than attractive side of her personality. I also get annoyed when judges have favourites who they fawn over and develop convenient blind spots to faults or shortcomings in technique and performance. And I had just spent a fortune on my tickets for the tour when I heard she was going to be in it
Does that answer your question?
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“I think Cherie is very bitter about being voted out and John staying in the competition because she had an almighty crush on James and won't be able to dance with HIM anymore.”
“I think Cherie is very bitter about being voted out and John staying in the competition because she had an almighty crush on James and won't be able to dance with HIM anymore.”
Not true, they are going on the 2009 tour, so she will be dancing with him for sometime to come.
Also, she could dance with him every day if she wanted simply by booking and paying for lessons like dancers have to do.
Originally Posted by Suzeie:
“Firstly I didn't think she was that great a dancer, nice lines aren't really enough for me and her latin was awful but I also never warmed to her. I'm willing to acknowledge that that is just my own personal opinion, and I'm not going to use the 's' word (y'know the one with 'mug' in the middle) but she just always came across as cold, superior and sneering and I think her reaction and comments on 'Johngate' are showing a less than attractive side of her personality. I also get annoyed when judges have favourites who they fawn over and develop convenient blind spots to faults or shortcomings in technique and performance. And I had just spent a fortune on my tickets for the tour when I heard she was going to be in it
Does that answer your question?”
“Firstly I didn't think she was that great a dancer, nice lines aren't really enough for me and her latin was awful but I also never warmed to her. I'm willing to acknowledge that that is just my own personal opinion, and I'm not going to use the 's' word (y'know the one with 'mug' in the middle) but she just always came across as cold, superior and sneering and I think her reaction and comments on 'Johngate' are showing a less than attractive side of her personality. I also get annoyed when judges have favourites who they fawn over and develop convenient blind spots to faults or shortcomings in technique and performance. And I had just spent a fortune on my tickets for the tour when I heard she was going to be in it
Does that answer your question?”
Your thoughts are my thoughts also, the only way we differ is that I havent spent a fortune on tickets for the tour
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“Yes, that's clear. I'm just asking if you're able to add more ballast to your point?
Or maybe you could edit the thread title to reflect that it is merely opinion, rather than absolute fact?”
“Yes, that's clear. I'm just asking if you're able to add more ballast to your point?
Or maybe you could edit the thread title to reflect that it is merely opinion, rather than absolute fact?”
Sorry your honour
As a grown woman and having watched her a few times with him, body language, tone of voice and such forth that is what I think and have to say I have not seen it or thought that about any other couple on Strictly. It is just merely an opinion and yes you are right I should have phrased the thread differently. Apologies.
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“Sorry your honour
As a grown woman and having watched her a few times with him, body language, tone of voice and such forth that is what I think and have to say I have not seen it or thought that about any other couple on Strictly. It is just merely an opinion and yes you are right I should have phrased the thread differently. Apologies.”
“Sorry your honour
As a grown woman and having watched her a few times with him, body language, tone of voice and such forth that is what I think and have to say I have not seen it or thought that about any other couple on Strictly. It is just merely an opinion and yes you are right I should have phrased the thread differently. Apologies.”
Apologies, but I really didn't get that from your initial post.
Thanks for the explanation regarding your opinon ~ no need to be sarky with it though. I am not actually a high court judge.
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“Not true, they are going on the 2009 tour, so she will be dancing with him for sometime to come.
Also, she could dance with him every day if she wanted simply by booking and paying for lessons like dancers have to do.”
“Not true, they are going on the 2009 tour, so she will be dancing with him for sometime to come.
Also, she could dance with him every day if she wanted simply by booking and paying for lessons like dancers have to do.”
I did'nt know they did a tour, that will please her then.
I wouldn't blame her if she had a crush on him. 
I remember some posters at the start of the series saying that they thought James was the one who had a crush on her! Who knows.
I don't think she's very angry. I think she's disappointed and feeling sad, but not angry.
I remember some posters at the start of the series saying that they thought James was the one who had a crush on her! Who knows. I don't think she's very angry. I think she's disappointed and feeling sad, but not angry.
Originally Posted by miss buzzybee:
“I think she is only angry because she was finding the latin dances difficult”
“I think she is only angry because she was finding the latin dances difficult”
She is angry because the costume on Saturday made her legs cold.
Originally Posted by saffron500:
“Your thoughts are my thoughts also, the only way we differ is that I havent spent a fortune on tickets for the tour”
“Your thoughts are my thoughts also, the only way we differ is that I havent spent a fortune on tickets for the tour
”
Ah yes, but Gethin is in it plus I'm hoping Jill Halpenny does THAT jive
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“Sorry your honour
As a grown woman and having watched her a few times with him, body language, tone of voice and such forth that is what I think and have to say I have not seen it or thought that about any other couple on Strictly. It is just merely an opinion and yes you are right I should have phrased the thread differently. Apologies.”
“Sorry your honour
As a grown woman and having watched her a few times with him, body language, tone of voice and such forth that is what I think and have to say I have not seen it or thought that about any other couple on Strictly. It is just merely an opinion and yes you are right I should have phrased the thread differently. Apologies.”
I have seen Cherie and James twice this week and you must live on another planet because there was nothing whatsoever in anything they said or did which would give the impression you claim to have got.
Wishful thinking on your part, maybe?
It certainly makes for yet another spite-laden thread aimed at a contestant who has been nothing but gracious and professional throughout.I could post that the sky is green, then claim it was "just merely an opinion" ...
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“She is angry because the costume on Saturday made her legs cold.”
“She is angry because the costume on Saturday made her legs cold.”
This is probably closer to the truth than anything else that's been said on this thread !
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“No harm in having an opinion.”
“No harm in having an opinion.”
There is when an ill-founded rumour starts about two people with their own families and personal lives. Leave them be for goodness sake.
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“I think Cherie is very bitter about being voted out and John staying in the competition because she had an almighty crush on James and won't be able to dance with HIM anymore.”
“I think Cherie is very bitter about being voted out and John staying in the competition because she had an almighty crush on James and won't be able to dance with HIM anymore.”
WOT! WOT! WOT!
How do you come to the above conclusion? Guesswork?
Don't agree at all. :sleep:
Originally Posted by miss buzzybee:
“ all those phone votes that would have gone to charity gone now.
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“ all those phone votes that would have gone to charity gone now.
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There is no money going to charity this year
Originally Posted by Suzeie:
“Firstly I didn't think she was that great a dancer, nice lines aren't really enough for me and her latin was awful but I also never warmed to her. I'm willing to acknowledge that that is just my own personal opinion, and I'm not going to use the 's' word (y'know the one with 'mug' in the middle) but she just always came across as cold, superior and sneering and I think her reaction and comments on 'Johngate' are showing a less than attractive side of her personality. I also get annoyed when judges have favourites who they fawn over and develop convenient blind spots to faults or shortcomings in technique and performance. And I had just spent a fortune on my tickets for the tour when I heard she was going to be in it
Does that answer your question?”
“Firstly I didn't think she was that great a dancer, nice lines aren't really enough for me and her latin was awful but I also never warmed to her. I'm willing to acknowledge that that is just my own personal opinion, and I'm not going to use the 's' word (y'know the one with 'mug' in the middle) but she just always came across as cold, superior and sneering and I think her reaction and comments on 'Johngate' are showing a less than attractive side of her personality. I also get annoyed when judges have favourites who they fawn over and develop convenient blind spots to faults or shortcomings in technique and performance. And I had just spent a fortune on my tickets for the tour when I heard she was going to be in it
Does that answer your question?”
Why did you not "warm" to her?
What made you think she was "cold, superior and sneering" - I never ever saw any sign of this attitude from her. She is a graceful, attractive, fit older woman who doesn't grin all the time - that doesn't mean she is unpleasant - it just means she is sensible and dignified.
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