I can enjoy the last few weeks of SCD now the attention seeker is leaving the building, mind I don't know when I will get to make my cup of tea, I saved that for when John was prancing about. 
Has recent events put anyone off watching?
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I wouldn't stop watching because JS is out, because he might have been voted out at some point anyway. The events of this week have put me off, but I shall watch this week and probably be caught up enough in the good dancing to still watch. Whether I watch next series I don't know. I don't vote, but if I did I would probably stop.
TBH am more put off being on DS with the increasingly nasty nasty comments being made about people/to each other. And not just on this forum. People have to accept others' differing opinions on here as much as they would in the flesh and it really frustrates me the horrible way people say things sometimes.
And please don't someone say I don't have to read it.
1) You don't always know what you're going to read until you've read it.
2) Me not reading the comments doesn't stop them being made.
TBH am more put off being on DS with the increasingly nasty nasty comments being made about people/to each other. And not just on this forum. People have to accept others' differing opinions on here as much as they would in the flesh and it really frustrates me the horrible way people say things sometimes.
And please don't someone say I don't have to read it.
1) You don't always know what you're going to read until you've read it.
2) Me not reading the comments doesn't stop them being made.
I'm looking forward to this weekend as I always do but although I'm looking forward to seeing who turns out to be the best and who falls by the wayside this weekend. I have very mixed feelings. I didn't want John to win and hoped he'd be voted off soon to ensure better dancers stayed in but I feel sad that he felt he had to leave especially since he was likeable and witty and for a lot of people represented the fun of the show.
I can understand why James got his knickers in a twist and mostly like him but hubbie watching the ITT John quit program said some very rude words about him and I can understand that - I hate it when someone attributes the worst possible motives to others behaviour especially as it makes no sense - John isn't a Jodie Marsh type character who is desperate for publicity at any costs and has no skills apart from seeking it - he's an intelligent man who I think quit because he didn't need the argo - he did it because he wanted to have a bit of fun and it all got a bit too serious.
The whole affair does expose a serious flaw in Strictly's two-faceted nature though it is both a dance contest and an entertainment show and that is it's beauty however they've seen a serious split between the two sides of its nature - with no one to unite them (we've missed a sparky character like Alesha, Louisa or Goughie, a gorgeous guy like Ramps or someone who's improving really well like Dawes who could also dance pretty well too ) and I think I'll be a bit worried next year that the same thing could happen again. Strictly is supposed to be about enjoying people having a go marvelling at the performances of those who are talented, being amused or interested by those who are not and in a lot of cases the fasination of seeing who is in which category which especially interesting as it has been this year that some who start well turn out to be no good at another aspect or someone dramatically improves. It's not supposed to be a power struggle between the judges and sections of the public trying to enforce their will on each other. I'm afraid that if either side gets the 'upper hand' over the other - i.e the public vote doesn't count for anything or someone who is rubbish actually wins then the show will lose some of its magic and I may well stop watching at that point which would be a shame because I love it.
I can understand why James got his knickers in a twist and mostly like him but hubbie watching the ITT John quit program said some very rude words about him and I can understand that - I hate it when someone attributes the worst possible motives to others behaviour especially as it makes no sense - John isn't a Jodie Marsh type character who is desperate for publicity at any costs and has no skills apart from seeking it - he's an intelligent man who I think quit because he didn't need the argo - he did it because he wanted to have a bit of fun and it all got a bit too serious.
The whole affair does expose a serious flaw in Strictly's two-faceted nature though it is both a dance contest and an entertainment show and that is it's beauty however they've seen a serious split between the two sides of its nature - with no one to unite them (we've missed a sparky character like Alesha, Louisa or Goughie, a gorgeous guy like Ramps or someone who's improving really well like Dawes who could also dance pretty well too ) and I think I'll be a bit worried next year that the same thing could happen again. Strictly is supposed to be about enjoying people having a go marvelling at the performances of those who are talented, being amused or interested by those who are not and in a lot of cases the fasination of seeing who is in which category which especially interesting as it has been this year that some who start well turn out to be no good at another aspect or someone dramatically improves. It's not supposed to be a power struggle between the judges and sections of the public trying to enforce their will on each other. I'm afraid that if either side gets the 'upper hand' over the other - i.e the public vote doesn't count for anything or someone who is rubbish actually wins then the show will lose some of its magic and I may well stop watching at that point which would be a shame because I love it.
Originally Posted by katkim:
“I won't be watching with glee now that John as left, this has left a nasty aftertaste, but I will be watching as my favourites are still in the show, and John leaving doesn't diminish my enjoyment of watching them. I do think the show and its concept has been damaged, though.”
“I won't be watching with glee now that John as left, this has left a nasty aftertaste, but I will be watching as my favourites are still in the show, and John leaving doesn't diminish my enjoyment of watching them. I do think the show and its concept has been damaged, though.”
Yes, damaged by the rebellious voters. They have done so much harm to the show just because they didn't like being told who was the best dancer.
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“I'm looking forward to this weekend as I always do but although I'm looking forward to seeing who turns out to be the best and who falls by the wayside this weekend. I have very mixed feelings. I didn't want John to win and hoped he'd be voted off soon to ensure better dancers stayed in but I feel sad that he felt he had to leave especially since he was likeable and witty and for a lot of people represented the fun of the show.
I can understand why James got his knickers in a twist and mostly like him but hubbie watching the ITT John quit program said some very rude words about him and I can understand that - I hate it when someone attributes the worst possible motives to others behaviour especially as it makes no sense - John isn't a Jodie Marsh type character who is desperate for publicity at any costs and has no skills apart from seeking it - he's an intelligent man who I think quit because he didn't need the argo - he did it because he wanted to have a bit of fun and it all got a bit too serious.
The whole affair does expose a serious flaw in Strictly's two-faceted nature though it is both a dance contest and an entertainment show and that is it's beauty however they've seen a serious split between the two sides of its nature - with no one to unite them (we've missed a sparky character like Alesha, Louisa or Goughie, a gorgeous guy like Ramps or someone who's improving really well like Dawes who could also dance pretty well too ) and I think I'll be a bit worried next year that the same thing could happen again. Strictly is supposed to be about enjoying people having a go marvelling at the performances of those who are talented, being amused or interested by those who are not and in a lot of cases the fasination of seeing who is in which category which especially interesting as it has been this year that some who start well turn out to be no good at another aspect or someone dramatically improves. It's not supposed to be a power struggle between the judges and sections of the public trying to enforce their will on each other. I'm afraid that if either side gets the 'upper hand' over the other - i.e the public vote doesn't count for anything or someone who is rubbish actually wins then the show will lose some of its magic and I may well stop watching at that point which would be a shame because I love it.”
“I'm looking forward to this weekend as I always do but although I'm looking forward to seeing who turns out to be the best and who falls by the wayside this weekend. I have very mixed feelings. I didn't want John to win and hoped he'd be voted off soon to ensure better dancers stayed in but I feel sad that he felt he had to leave especially since he was likeable and witty and for a lot of people represented the fun of the show.
I can understand why James got his knickers in a twist and mostly like him but hubbie watching the ITT John quit program said some very rude words about him and I can understand that - I hate it when someone attributes the worst possible motives to others behaviour especially as it makes no sense - John isn't a Jodie Marsh type character who is desperate for publicity at any costs and has no skills apart from seeking it - he's an intelligent man who I think quit because he didn't need the argo - he did it because he wanted to have a bit of fun and it all got a bit too serious.
The whole affair does expose a serious flaw in Strictly's two-faceted nature though it is both a dance contest and an entertainment show and that is it's beauty however they've seen a serious split between the two sides of its nature - with no one to unite them (we've missed a sparky character like Alesha, Louisa or Goughie, a gorgeous guy like Ramps or someone who's improving really well like Dawes who could also dance pretty well too ) and I think I'll be a bit worried next year that the same thing could happen again. Strictly is supposed to be about enjoying people having a go marvelling at the performances of those who are talented, being amused or interested by those who are not and in a lot of cases the fasination of seeing who is in which category which especially interesting as it has been this year that some who start well turn out to be no good at another aspect or someone dramatically improves. It's not supposed to be a power struggle between the judges and sections of the public trying to enforce their will on each other. I'm afraid that if either side gets the 'upper hand' over the other - i.e the public vote doesn't count for anything or someone who is rubbish actually wins then the show will lose some of its magic and I may well stop watching at that point which would be a shame because I love it.”
Thank you for saying, much more eloquently than I ever could, what I feel.
I haven't had the same enthusiasm this series anyway due to the lack of personalities generally so it is not all debacle related.
However, this debacle and the sudden change of rules for next year, is less about me and more about the start of the end of the programme in general, unless it is treated to a pretty big makeover. The relaxing fun element has been lost. I want to chill on a Saturday not have to put up with the unprofesional behaviour we have recently witnessed.
I might give XFactor a try as all my mates watch it and I can never join in their conversations. Might be a more relaxing option. We'll see.
However, this debacle and the sudden change of rules for next year, is less about me and more about the start of the end of the programme in general, unless it is treated to a pretty big makeover. The relaxing fun element has been lost. I want to chill on a Saturday not have to put up with the unprofesional behaviour we have recently witnessed.
I might give XFactor a try as all my mates watch it and I can never join in their conversations. Might be a more relaxing option. We'll see.
I will never stop watching Strictly because it's the best show on television at the moment. I am in two minds about John leaving though- it's good because now the competition can really begin, although I have to say that John provided pretty much all the entertainment, and it may get boring now there is just a group of people in it desperate to win and taking it really seriously.
I wish John and Kristina all the best for their farewell dance on Saturday. But please ,what we don't want to see is any misguided hypocracy from John's detractors.
I have always been a Strictly fan, and regret for me this series has now lost it's appeal.
Really hope Kristina is back next series.
I have always been a Strictly fan, and regret for me this series has now lost it's appeal.
Really hope Kristina is back next series.
Originally Posted by cassieconvinced:
“Thank you for saying, much more eloquently than I ever could, what I feel.”
“Thank you for saying, much more eloquently than I ever could, what I feel.
”
I agree as well. Vwery well said.
Not at all, there's 6 excellent dancers there and it can be got on with rather than politicians sticking their oar in.
Perhaps they could get on with dealing with the 3 million possible unemployed next year.
Perhaps they could get on with dealing with the 3 million possible unemployed next year.
Originally Posted by RocknRolla:
“I'm not sure about that.
SCD has about 10 million viewers, so will see how many are still watching it this weekend. Even if the 170,000 that feel the need to complain switch off there will still be many million people watching it, including myself.”
“I'm not sure about that.
SCD has about 10 million viewers, so will see how many are still watching it this weekend. Even if the 170,000 that feel the need to complain switch off there will still be many million people watching it, including myself.”
It was 170,000 posts on the BBC forum not 170,000 people. The number of viewers who complained was around 2,000 - which is 0.002% of viewers.
I don't think John's as popular as some posters here believe. Many viewers didn't care about him one way or another. According to an insider - John only received middling amount of votes until the bandwagon got rolling - then it went up.
I'm delighted John's gone - now the contest starts for real.
Originally Posted by Liza with a Zee:
“Not a view shared by the majority..”
“Not a view shared by the majority..”
John voters are not the majority by a long, long way.
John vote would have been big last week due to the behaviour of the judges. Even suporters of other dancers were still throwing a vote to John, so Im sure he spiked, I have read 40%, 50%, 62%, this would have died down. The underdog always gets a sympathy vote, just the judges over reacted, which gives the public more to feel sorry about.
If it had been left to run its course, without the judges adding fuel to the fire it would have died off and John would have been voted off.
If it had been left to run its course, without the judges adding fuel to the fire it would have died off and John would have been voted off.
Originally Posted by susie-4964:
“I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Either this is a dance competition or it's a pantomime, make your choice, but it can't be both. I'm happy to be entertained by watching people who couldn't dance before learning and improving each week. Joe Public has already thrown out two perfectly good dancers in the forms of Cheri and Heather in favour of someone who is a very poor dancer, just because they felt like having a bit of a strop. I admire JS for doing the honourable thing and refusing to play this stupid game. If the public would prefer a show where everyone just messes about and gets laughs, fair enough, but I won't be watching it.”
“I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Either this is a dance competition or it's a pantomime, make your choice, but it can't be both. I'm happy to be entertained by watching people who couldn't dance before learning and improving each week. Joe Public has already thrown out two perfectly good dancers in the forms of Cheri and Heather in favour of someone who is a very poor dancer, just because they felt like having a bit of a strop. I admire JS for doing the honourable thing and refusing to play this stupid game. If the public would prefer a show where everyone just messes about and gets laughs, fair enough, but I won't be watching it.”
Hear hear.
Originally Posted by Christa:
“John voters are not the majority by a long, long way.”
“John voters are not the majority by a long, long way.”
Especially given that voters were not always viewers
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“I can enjoy the last few weeks of SCD now the attention seeker is leaving the building, mind I don't know when I will get to make my cup of tea, I saved that for when John was prancing about.”
“I can enjoy the last few weeks of SCD now the attention seeker is leaving the building, mind I don't know when I will get to make my cup of tea, I saved that for when John was prancing about.
”
WOW! Seymour we agree about something twice in one series!
Originally Posted by catslovelycats:
“...TBH am more put off being on DS with the increasingly nasty nasty comments being made about people/to each other. And not just on this forum. People have to accept others' differing opinions on here as much as they would in the flesh and it really frustrates me the horrible way people say things sometimes.
And please don't someone say I don't have to read it.
1) You don't always know what you're going to read until you've read it.
2) Me not reading the comments doesn't stop them being made.”
“...TBH am more put off being on DS with the increasingly nasty nasty comments being made about people/to each other. And not just on this forum. People have to accept others' differing opinions on here as much as they would in the flesh and it really frustrates me the horrible way people say things sometimes.
And please don't someone say I don't have to read it.
1) You don't always know what you're going to read until you've read it.
2) Me not reading the comments doesn't stop them being made.”
Agree 100% and have said something similar on another thread.
Originally Posted by Liza with a Zee:
“I for one will not be watching on Saturday. I have been loving Strictly but I don't know that there is anyone entertaining left. Just desperados:yawn:”
“I for one will not be watching on Saturday. I have been loving Strictly but I don't know that there is anyone entertaining left. Just desperados:yawn:”
Unlike John, many of them were desperate to stay in to breathe some life back into their dead or dying careers or to advertise themselves as something special.
John's career as an after dinner speaker will take off.
I shall continue to watch but I don't think well of some of the judges and pros for the manner in which they conducted themselves.
Let's put it this way - if I am in I may watch it but I wouldn't set the video and I turned ITT off last night to watch something else. Says it all really. All the fun has gone out of it.
I am expecting hypocrisy of the highest degree this Saturday when J&K appear, especially from those two-faced judges.
I am expecting hypocrisy of the highest degree this Saturday when J&K appear, especially from those two-faced judges.
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Agree 100% and have said something similar on another thread.”
“Agree 100% and have said something similar on another thread.
”
Didn't realise BuddyBontheNet. Didn't intend to plagiarise!
Originally Posted by doesmyheadin:
“I have always been a Strictly fan, and regret for me this series has now lost it's appeal.
Really hope Kristina is back next series.”
“I have always been a Strictly fan, and regret for me this series has now lost it's appeal.
Really hope Kristina is back next series.”
My sentiments exactly! So exactly that I'll leave it at that, barring the hope that Brian is back next series...
Originally Posted by Annsyre:
“Unlike John, many of them were desperate to stay in to breathe some life back into their dead or dying careers or to advertise themselves as something special.
John's career as an after dinner speaker will take off.”
“Unlike John, many of them were desperate to stay in to breathe some life back into their dead or dying careers or to advertise themselves as something special.
John's career as an after dinner speaker will take off.”
It was never dead in the first place.
That was one of the joys about John he didn't reek of desperation.
Originally Posted by nancy1975:
“Not at all, there's 6 excellent dancers there and it can be got on with rather than politicians sticking their oar in.
Perhaps they could get on with dealing with the 3 million possible unemployed next year.”
“Not at all, there's 6 excellent dancers there and it can be got on with rather than politicians sticking their oar in.
Perhaps they could get on with dealing with the 3 million possible unemployed next year.”
Oh well said. *appaulds*
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