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Answer is simple, Juges stick to Judging !!
They should only be allowed to critique the dance. They can keep their personal comments to themselves. Any briefing outside the SCD format should be a contractual infringement as should trying to turn themselves into the celebs of the show. Also , it should be a contractual obligation to respect the public vote ( agree to differ is ok).
TBH it's not all their fault, the producers must have encouraged them in this behaviour! I had thought they might draw back this year after Len's shameful treatment of Kelly ( i personally found him disgusting and he never so much as offered an apology!) They need to treat people with respect and learn some good old fashioned manners! |
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Yep, let's have no crit, and just hold the scores up at the end of the dances:yawn::yawn::yawn:
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OOoooopps spelling! Well they do behave like Juges a lot of the time!!!
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Yep, let's have no crit, and just hold the scores up at the end of the dances:yawn::yawn::yawn:
Crit of dance is fine ! Nowhere in my post does it say it is not! |
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Got to agree. But the producers know what catches the public attention, and they are all out for ratings. so it won't change.
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I SO agree with this, for me its NEVER been a problem what they say at the judging table, even if they are horrible about a dance so be it, thats their job and their opinion.
They should NOT however be allowed on ITT day after day giving their 'personal' opinions about the contestants, or to write article in the newspapers. Its definately this more than anything this year that had poured fuel on the flames of dissent. |
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Crit of dance is fine ! Nowhere in my post does it say it is not!
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So would "That dance was rubbish" be counted as crit of the dance, or an opinion?
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So would "That dance was rubbish" be counted as crit of the dance, or an opinion?
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Yes Dr Jan, that is right.
I'm sure they all regret their actions now and must be feeling lousy. Shall we forgive them? |
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Then they simply shouldn't be invited onto other shows - if they're asked to appear on ITT or BBC News or something else then they're going to give their opinion, simple as that.
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So would "That dance was rubbish" be counted as crit of the dance, or an opinion?
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I don't really have problems with them giving their opinions on the show (although I do think some of them could do with a course at the School of Tact, Diplomacy and Constructive Criticism during the break!) - that is what they are paid to do.
What I DON'T think they should be allowed to do is appear on every other radio or TV show giving those opinions and adding their own personal views to them. I also don't think they should appear on ITT in any role other than a normal guest. They shouldn't have access to anything other than what the viewers see of the training footage or music etc as it just gives some of them pre conceived ideas about what they are going to see on the live show. Also, as only Len is actually qualified to accurately assess what he sees, its really quite pointless having Craig and Arlene talking about the training during the week. |
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I SO agree with this, for me its NEVER been a problem what they say at the judging table, even if they are horrible about a dance so be it, thats their job and their opinion.
They should NOT however be allowed on ITT day after day giving their 'personal' opinions about the contestants, or to write article in the newspapers. Its definately this more than anything this year that had poured fuel on the flames of dissent. |
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I think the judges are part of the reason why this whole thing got out of hand though - they didn't have to keep going on and on and on about it...
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They wouldn't have if the media hadn't kept asking them about it.
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Answer is simple, Juges stick to Judging
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They wouldn't have if the media hadn't kept asking them about it.
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True, they're not blameless either.
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True - in fact I blame the media entirely for the farce this has become. Apparently they were (or the paparazzi were) hanging about outside John's house hoping for pictures of him and his wife. It was suggested in the Mail that this might have been the reason why he gave it up. Do you think this is a possibility?
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An Idea, How about we issue the judges with paddles with words/comments on, instead of numbers?
'Ok' 'Average' 'very poor' 'A-MAZ-ING' 'LOL' 'D-U-LL' How about it?
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I think they could have their opinions, but accept the right of the public to vote for whatever reason they like. So 'You danced very badly' is fine, 'You should not be in the dance-off, X should' is not.
Also 'He isn't very good at dancing' fine. 'He isn't trying' not. It's a fairly easy line to draw, but it would mean respecting all the contestants - respecting the people who can't dance as much as the people who can - and that they really struggle with. Arlene in particular can't seem to see a difference between 'isn't dancing well' and 'isn't trying' - presumably because dancing has always come easily to her. The judges didn't do anything to John that they didn't do to loads of others, who put up with it wanting to be 'good sports'. It's the newspapers' current BBC-bashing agenda that's different. But the judges completely failed to understand how their comments could be used and hopefully it will make them more careful in interviews outside the show in future. Maybe, maybe not. Apparently Len gets the most fan mail of anyone. I'd love to know if that's changed. If that's the same, the judges will stay just as they are. |
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Errr.... what's the question, then?
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They should only be allowed to critique the dance. They can keep their personal comments to themselves.
The reality of all this is that John was far from the worst dancer this year. Perhaps that is the problem as there were far too many folks (men in particular) with two left feet. His staying whilst unexpected at the beginning was not out of line with the performances in the show until last couple of weeks. At least he does whatever he does in time to the music unlike so many others. |
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Errr.... what's the question, then?
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