The whiff of hypocrasy was unmistakeable

Well, wasn't it Emma against two men? Alesha was "guilty" of being good, too, when she competed against two heartthrobs. As for Rachel, how dare she be in Austin's and Tom's way?
Now, try to convince me that Len was not right about female voters...
I do hope that it is going to be the Rachel-Austin- (perhaps) Tom final. I don't mind one of the other women in Tom's spot, even though I don't like Lisa (too pampered and pushed up by the BBC team). I always look forward to Vincent's and Brendan's choreography, and Erin is really good in ballroom routines, so the final could be a real joy to watch.

I would be very surprised if Rachel is in the bottom two. I've seen a couple of polls elsewhere and Rachel's popularity is not as low as many on here think it is. Whether you thought their Foxtrot was overmarked or not, at the very least it was equal to both Lisa and Tom's dances. And so her ranking at the top was absolutely fair and correct. I think Rachel will pick up some votes from floating/neutral voters tonight.

I am more interested in testing whether Jodie and Christine's popularity is as high as many on here believe it to be. The only complicating factor is the danger that some irate voters might decide to 'stick it' to the Judges and vote for the bottom two in protest.

In your opinion.

I agree

The only two couples standing for SCD is Jodie and Christine, no matter what they go out there do their best, but look like they are having fun.

I hope they two get through.

Austin made way too many mistakes. He looked lost at times.
Lisa again mistakes. way out of timing.
Tom, whats up with his face!!! I like Tom, but im just not getting it with him.
Rachel, robotic and dancing by numbers.....no real emotion.

These 10''s were so OTT......the show is average at best.

Evening all.

Coming late to this thread this evening - not going through 38 pages... so forgive me if I go over old ground a bit.

Rachel & Vincent - good, but a perfect 40? Don't think so as it was defeintely back to Miss Bland again. Pretty to look at, does the steps, but no *depth* no *passion*, no *feeling*. Sorry, but that's my opinion!

Christine's was the worst this evening IMO.

The sheeer hypocrasy of the judges to JS was laughable. They didn't want to see uim go? That so, so why have they been trying so darned hard to get him booted out every week.. twerps.

Anyhow: evening all.

Loved brendan saying fantastic to lisa after the routine!!

Like the way John said a thanks to the judges for their unusual way of getting him votes........

Ouch..........lol

Hi everyone, i missed the show! Who were the two couples with the lowest marks anyone know?

thanks!

Jodie and Christine

Lisa & Brendan - Good, but didn't wow me. Liked Brendan's twirly bits but on the whole I can't remember it much. I do remember thinking it didn't have enough bounce and synchrinocity.

Jodie & Ian - I just love to watch her! Not a good jive on the whole, but it had so much fizz and sparkle and the choreography made up for the shortfall in technique.

Tom & Camilla - Interesting Tango, I really enjoyed it. I thought Tom was better than Austin last week, but again the scores didn't reflect that. Camilla was so good tonight too! No gurning! No stupid faces! Brilliant. They got my vote tonight.

Rachel & Vincent - Huh? A nice but dull Foxtrot worthy of 4 10's? That should be for a dance I'll never forget. I can still see most of Jil's jive in my head, Mark's Argentine Tango, Zoe Ball's Tango etc. I can't remember it now other than she had a nice dress on! Pah.

Austin & Erin - This was so awful ! 9's? Really? I do love Erin, but she's starting to look increasingly like the amateur in some of their dances. She was so slow and laboured tonight and I thought the whole dance was just bizarre.

Christine & Matthew - :YAWN: D.U.DOUBLE L Hopefully she'll go tonight, I just can't bear her face slapping 'Who, little old me?' routine any longer. She's just a nothing contestant. I did like the music to their ChaCha though, it really worked to set the atmosphere.

I really don't have a favourite this year. It's up, and down. I enjoy Tom the most but Camilla often spoils it for me, I admire Rachel's talent but don't 'get' her in the dances (other than last week), I adore Jodie but she's not good enough to win or be in the final etc. It's the only year I haven't been rooting for someone.

Bottom two Christine and Jodie tonight I'd say. I can't say who they'd choose either!

Well, that was the dullest show ever.

Lisa and Brendan - didn't watch properly as i was busy making a sandwich. Looked a bit slow and heavy from what i saw. Cant imagine i missed much.

Christine and Matthew - really really bad, reminded me of Cherie. Should be the one to go this week. Len snapped early tonight. Wish he would flounce off and not come back to be honest.

Jodie and Ian - good effort but bad.

Tom and Camiila - odd routine. As ever, competent but bland.

Rachel and Vincent - hmm, very 'nice', looked wrong somehow though, not smooth.

Austin and Erin - liked the attitude but it was pretty crap.

John and Kristina - lovely lovely dance and showed the others up for being cold and uninspiring dancers but OTT farewell speeches. No one died for heavens sake!

Judges overmarking everyone to give the impression that it's a really close and exciting competition made it seem worse. Ooh, look at all the 10's, this must be the best year ever!!11!!111 Despite the cameramans best efforts we can actually see how bad they are :sleep:

Have to say that I agree with each and every line of this :yawn::sleep:

I thought Tom and Camilla were fantastic. The judges really do seem to have it in for him. He's deserving of higher marks imo.

Rachel and Vincent were obviously technically brilliant, but the routine wasn't 'wow' enough for me to be worthy of 4 10's.

It should be Jodie and Christine in the bottom 2, but I have an awful feeling they wont be.

Can some lovely forumer please put up tonight's scores for me? I missed the show and really want to know!
Thank you kind people

I just found the scores on scd site , thanks anyway guys.
Last edited by smelly jem : 22-11-2008 at 21:05

Glad it's not just me so completely underwhelmed! I wasn't expecting any better but it's still a shame

I was too. I thought there was a wierd manic feeling about the entire show tonight, as if they were over-compensating and trying to say to the audience 'look how much fun and how wonderful the show is, even without John Seargeant'. Everyone in my household thought the same.

It was just strange. Hopefully everything will be back on an even keel next week.

I found the show rather flat as well,i hated all the dresses (rather than just one)....Len was a grump ....none of the dances impressed me.

Next week might be different.

I wondered whether we (and they) have spent so much time being force fed the overblown John Sergeant story (whether for or against) that everyone felt a tad deflated? The show lacked.... entertainment value though (sorry, those who didn't like him) I enjoyed John and Kristina's final dance. I know that I (and others) have felt differently about the ethos of the show as it emerged last week, which hasn't helped.

Right. X Factor is over, and I've managed to put in a grand total of 0 votes across the 2 programmes. I feel so proud of myself

Lisa and Brendan: a good opening, but there was far too much gapping for the score she got. I enjoyed it, and I think Brendan is a very clever choreographer, but Lisa's technique let her down a bit tonight. And the song seemed a litttle slow for a quickstep. I think she'll be in the bottom 2 again, but the judges will save her unless she's up against Austin, Tom or Rachel. 8/10

Christine and Matthew: I thought she looked good in training but of course all we saw was a few seconds of a 90 minute routine. The bits we saw in training were actually the best bits! The arrangement of the music was somewhat plodding which didn't help. She flexed her knees, seemed to be looking to Matthew for guidance like Heather did in her chacha, didn't seem confident out of hold and it just wasn't her best dance. I thought Arlene and Craig were spot on with their marks. I know this may be an unpopular view but I think Matthew should take some of the blame as the choreography didn't really go anywhere. He of all people should know how important a really strong opening is - it got him 3 10s last year. 6/10

Jodie and Ian: I thought she did a really passable jive. I would have liked to have seen more basic jive content, but if he'd done that and she couldn't handle it I would have criticised him for not tailoring it to her, so I think on balance it was a very good routine. I know Ian was angling for 8s but I thought it was slightly overmarked. I think she did a reall good job in the time she had, and I think we all know how hard it is to do physical stuff when we're poorly, so well done Jodie. 7/10

Tom and Camilla: I agree with the comment about leading with his arms, but on the whole I was impressed with this routine. I don't think Tom gets any credit for being a really good dancer, and his ballroom and latin are equally good which puts him on a par with Rachel technically but he is a better performer. 9/10

Rachel and Vincent: Oh dear. Just when I was warming to her, the judges throw cold water over the whole thing. It was a nice, sweet foxttrot but I don't think it would have got 40 if she hadn't been in the dance off 2 weeks ago. Strange coincidence - best female in the dance off, cue overmarking. Her rumba last week whilst very good didn't blow me away and this dance less so. I thought it was very good but like Matt Di Angelo's 40/40 last year, the score has clouded my objectivity. No other female would have got that score with an identical routine. 9/10

Austin and Erin: I felt sorry for them following a perfect score. They did well but I don't think teaching latin is Erin's forte, and Austin is better at ballroom. Tom is a better overall dancer and as I posted last night, could well pip him to that final spot. The song choice didn't help - there's a chacha beat in there but I thought it was a bit too camp a song choice to work. 7.5/10

Dance off: difficult to predict! I think the boys and Rachel are safe. It'll be two of Lisa, Christine and Jodie but I can't shake off the feeling that Christine is leaving tonight - it's something I've felt all week. I don't particularly want any of them to go, but I think any of the aforementioned 3 leaving will be fair as they are the weaker dancers in a really strong field.

Finally, John and my lovely Kristina. The highlight of the show for me. Endearing dance, lovely words from both of them. I think Kristina has a definite place on next year's show... so roll on series 7!

That's exactly how it came across to me too. And I didn't like Bruce talking over John trying to make him say that everything had been hunky dory and not like it had said in the papers. I wished he'd let him say goodbye without interrupting him.

I agree with you - I'm glad I'm not alone in finding Christine's 'little 'ole me' act irritating too - funny people can devote a whole threads to how they hate Tom and Austin but I say derogatory things about Christine and people call me mean.

Except for the first few weeks when Christine was getting a mauling on the forums for being "fake and manipulative" there doesn't seem to be anyone whose particularly hated this year, they all get to take it in turns