Ratings Thread (Part 2)

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GeorgeS

01-07-2008

Quote:
“It does make me wonder- why don't Wimbledon get some floodlights on Centre Court/Court 1 and do evening sessions. Show them on BBC2, and if a situation like yesterday arsies, show it on BBC1. It would get pretty big audiences. Most of the other slams have evening sessions. The final would do great starting at 6/7pm on BBC1. But I suppose it's probably to do with tradition and history.”

the same reason they dont offer the right to Sky, or let players wear anything other than white or play games on the middle Sunday.

Cent

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Very interesting stats.

I wouldn't necessarily imagine BBC1 as being aimed specifically at the 16-34 demographic, but yet it blows all other competition out of the water in that respect.

Also interesting that CH4 who I would say is designed to appeal more to the 16-34 crowd, does only marginally better than BBC2 who I'd say is not focused on that same demographic.

ITV? No surprises about it's own performance there. But surprising that it still does about the same as FIVE and better than E4.

CH5, another channel I see as trying to draw in the 16-34 crowd, also fails spectacularly.

Now E4 who I'd say is designed to appeal purely to the 16-34 crowd...pitiful.

I think these stats might imply that the 16-34 crowd simply want to watch good television, like any other demographic, and that all attempts to patronise them by telling them that certain shows are just for them are rejected.

I don't know if anybody watched it but there was a very interesting documentary on BBC4 the other night about television's relationship with teenagers and young people's attitudes to 'yoof' TV. It did seem that when TV programmers try too hard to directly appeal to them then they feel patronised and reject it because they can all too easily spot when TV people are trying to make out that they are 'down with the kids'.

By the way, do you have the 16-34 shares for BBC3?
Because nowadays that channel appears to be trying to emulate E4 and directly target 16-34 viewers.”

BBC3 is supposed to directly target 16-34s, so thats why they are doing that.

And were you joking when you said 3% was bad for E4? Because I thought that was excellent.

Lukey37

01-07-2008

I don't think you can really lump a 16yo and 33yo together. It's probably the upper part of the 16-34s that give BBC1 such a good share.

Cent

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Lukey37:
“I don't think you can really lump a 16yo and 33yo together. It's probably the upper part of the 16-34s that give BBC1 such a good share.”

Advertising works on generalisations.

They advertise to 16-34s, to ABC1s, etc.

So, in turn, that is how ratings work.

Pizzatheaction

01-07-2008

Really good figures for the tennis.

I suppose it worked out perfectly with the disposable 'On the Fiddle?' easily dropped from the schedule, but EE, Panorama, and The One Show left in their slots.

How silly would it be to move The One Show to BBC Two?!

Dancc

01-07-2008

Criminal Justice was fantastic last night. I'm glad it did well. It's also an interesting experiment by the BBC airing it nightly for a week - I wonder how many will still be watching on Friday.

As for today, the weather here is glorious with lots of sunshine and temps in excess of 24C. But I understand only southern and eastern parts of England are enjoying this weather, with gloomy weather lingering in the west, so I'm not sure if it will affect the ratings too much.

PJMillar

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Really good figures for the tennis.

I suppose it worked out perfectly with the disposable 'On the Fiddle?' easily dropped from the schedule, but EE, Panorama, and The One Show left in their slots.

How silly would it be to move The One Show to BBC Two?! ”

Apparently they'd call it 'The Two Show'.

Glamour Girl

01-07-2008

I'm glad the tennis did well. It was better drama than the programme it caused to run late for me

I'm surprised the second Coronation Street clung on so well to almost all of it's viewers. It's not often Corrie or EE is up against a show which outrates them, but the second Corrie somehow didn't suffer at all really.

Jaycee Dove

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I
ITV1 are going ahead with The Prisoner remake with Jim Cavaziel as Number Six and Ian McKellen as Number Two. It will be interesting how it turns out considering how iconic the original series is.”

At the same time Granada announced a joint deal with a US cable company to remake Cracker as an ongoing series (again).

Granada will retain all rights other than those for the US. So it is bound to appear on ITV here next year.

RocketRowe

01-07-2008

Yey! Well done to the tennis ratings!

Spike555

01-07-2008

Was that the first time ITV News at Ten has beaten Big Brother this series?

Cent

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Spike555:
“Was that the first time ITV News at Ten has beaten Big Brother this series?”

Yes. It's never really came close before.

ZoeMcCallister

01-07-2008

Wow-I think it's amazing that on a hot day both Corrie & Wimbledon can pull in good audiences -8.6m and 7.4m at the same time is excellent.

As is Criminal Justice, NaT and BB all getting excellent figures in the 10pm slot. It just shows if you put something on that's good in the Summer then people will watch. New Tricks will be interesting...

I expect Wimbledon will easily take a place in the top 10 programmes this year. Also does anyone think the inflation was because of many people waiting for Criminal Justice, hence the 2 audiences combining?

PJMillar

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by centrino04:
“Yes. It's never really came close before.”

I remember it coming 0.2m away with NaT getting 2.2m while BB getting 2.4m so yeah, they have come close. Remember, BB's audience INCLUDES the +1.

Cent

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“I remember it coming 0.2m away with NaT getting 2.2m while BB getting 2.4m so yeah, they have come close. Remember, BB's audience INCLUDES the +1.”

When was that?

I dont remember BB getting 2.4m on a Monday - Thursday.

I know it includes the +1 - but +1 viewers still count for advertisers.

Jonwo

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Wow-I think it's amazing that on a hot day both Corrie & Wimbledon can pull in good audiences -8.6m and 7.4m at the same time is excellent.

As is Criminal Justice, NaT and BB all getting excellent figures in the 10pm slot. It just shows if you put something on that's good in the Summer then people will watch. New Tricks will be interesting...”

While I think it was great ratings for the tennis, I have a feeling it will be unlikely to be topped this year unless Andy Murray get into the Final.

Sport is one of the few TV highlights that achieve great ratings but I wonder how much that depends what channel it is on. For example, if The Champions League Final had been on Five, would it have got 11.1m? Probably not.

ZoeMcCallister

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“While I think it was great ratings for the tennis, I have a feeling it will be unlikely to be topped this year unless Andy Murray get into the Final.

Sport is one of the few TV highlights that achieve great ratings but I wonder how much that depends what channel it is on. For example, if The Champions League Final had been on Five, would it have got 11.1m? Probably not.”

Yeah, I'm not trying to find excuses for the good rating. It's good that other sports apart from football can bring in huge ratings and as you say sporting events attract huge ratings.

GeorgeS

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Spike555:
“Was that the first time ITV News at Ten has beaten Big Brother this series?”

Big Brother will have to get Mugabe into the house soon!

Cent

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Big Brother will have to get Mugabe into the house soon! ”

Dont be stupid!

Mugabe has already signed up for Celebrity Big Brother.

GeorgeS

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by centrino04:
“Dont be stupid!

Mugabe has already signed up for Celebrity Big Brother.”

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/200...julian_ma.html

He could use his new catchphrase on the housemates. He could have them beaten if they vote for him.

Cent

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/200...julian_ma.html

He could use his new catchphrase on the housemates. He could have them beaten if they vote for him.”

He's perfect housemate material. I hope he's on the shortlist. Nominations would be... interesting to say the least.

BillKay

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Criminal Justice was fantastic last night. I'm glad it did well. It's also an interesting experiment by the BBC airing it nightly for a week - I wonder how many will still be watching on Friday.
”

I agree, it was a great start and I think it suits being stripped across the week, but I do wonder if the BBC have chosen the best week to broadcast it?

PJMillar

01-07-2008

Originally Posted by centrino04:
“When was that?

I dont remember BB getting 2.4m on a Monday - Thursday.

I know it includes the +1 - but +1 viewers still count for advertisers.”

Yes, but as it's shown an hour later, it doesn't beat News at Ten does it?

2.4 million viewers were watching Big Brother at 10pm.

2.2 million viewers were watching News at Ten at 10pm.

So they were close.

I think the million who watched after make it an unfair advantage.

mlt11

01-07-2008

Blog by BBC Sport Editor on moving the tennis to BBC1, together with comments.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sporteditors/

Hyperstar

01-07-2008

This proves alot of people like tennis

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