It would seem as though the goalposts have moved a bit when considering when ITV1 has a good night. The figures suggest BBC1 had a 4% lead in peaktime and 7% in all day share.
I guess it being summer and ITV arent firing many guns-but thats a convincing win in this multi-channel age.

rzt - how are Neighbours viewing figure doing over on Fiver? also ghost whisper?

I've just been looking at some of last years Summer ratings and I can see why BBC1 are launching a big drama and a big returning drama this Summer. Ratings for BBC1 were considerably down on what it's been getting so far this Summer. Also ITV1 was in a much better position with their top 30 looking more healthy than it is now.

Flops on BBC1 last Summer included:
-The Chase
-Jekyll
-Would I Lie To You?
-Lenny's Britain
-True Dare Kiss
-Dance X

I am a little surprised BBC1 recomissioned WILTY? as it delivered extremely poor ratings last year. BBC1 will be hoping that it does well in its new slot and day. Otherwise it could easily find itself coming third in the terrestrials and we'll be back to the situation where the ITV drama repeats are winning their slots.

Interestingly ITV had a lot more big bankers on last Summer, but it is probably in their best interests that they save them till Winter this year as the drama repeats & Police Camera Action are doing the business.

-The Commander
-Taggart
-The Time Of Your Life
-Wire In The Blood
-Rosemary & Thyme
-Little Devil

And to an extent...
-Britain's Favourite View
-B Road Britain

The only dramas ITV have for this Summer are Harley Street and Midsomer IIRC.

A reasonably good Thursday for ITV given that Thursday isn't one of their strongest nights & they didn;t have an hour long Emmerdale.

Wimbledon is giving BBC1 the spike in all day share.

Incidentally Harley Street launches on ITV1 on a Thursday at 9pm in 2 weeks time.

I thought it did quite well in that slot.

But, more importantly it was the best new comedy show on BBC1 in years.

Zoe, i don't suppose you have the ratings for both Jekyll and WILTY? Do you? It would be interesting to see what they both got, because i enjoyed both of them.

Hovering just below 3 million is not good imo. I think one of the main reasons it was recomissioned is because of the good quality of the show and BBC1 want to give it another chance in a better slot to try and get the HIGNFY audience.


Yeah and it beat Wednesday's all hours despite Wednesday having Corrie.

Wimbledon is really increasing BBC1's share and decreasing ITV's. It just goes to show how much CBBC is pulling BBC1 down-will CBBC ever be able to leave BBC1 once the switchover has happened and everyone has access to the CBBC channel??

Interesting slot choice for Harley Street, probably a good one and ITV have seen sense as not to put it on Mon/Tues as BBC1 have 2 big dramas. Also ITV seem to have been putting filler programmes in waiting for other dramas like Criminal Justice/House/Heroes to finish. Though once again there will be a lot of good shows in the 9pm slot that i want to watch-Mock The Week/Hotel Inspector and Harley Street. The same thing happened last Summer.

I think it's great to have new and returning shows in the summer as there is an audience watching television despite the weather. It will be interesting how traditionally autumn shows like New Tricks and Who Do Think You Are? fare as I would imagine they have loyal audiences.

The Hotel Inspector has been moved from the autumn to the summer partly because it kept getting interupted for UEFA Cup during the last series which I suspect is one of the reasons why Ruth Watson quit HI and move to Channel 4.

Looking at the officials Jekyll launched with 5 million but by the end was in the 3 million range in a 9pm Saturday slot. It seems people don't like watching horror type dramas.

WILTY? launched with 4 million but fell to the 2 million range last year in a 10pm slot and didn't really have much competition in its way-Now That's What I call TV, Dame Edna, Parky.

But what show has ever worked in WILTY's slot?

Love Soup did no better.

I recently saw WILTY on Dave and I found it really funny, I'm guessing that being on a Saturday didn't do much for the ratings but I think we could see an increase due to a new day and time.

I wonder if QI could ever move to BBC One? It has quite high viewing figures even in repeats although it may be too clever for a typical BBC One audience.

It will be interesting to see HI ratings. I think it will start out with around 1.5m, but then dip to around 1m by the end. I don't think the new presenter will have the appeal that Ruth had and I don't think the show will be the same without her. I could be wrong however and it could be the boost the show needed.

Also have you seen the idiot they seem to have put on the Unseen episodes on FIVER? I don't know if they're trying to appeal to the teen audiences or something, but that was NOT a good move

Sorry, I'm wearing my predantic hat today: New Tricks has never launched a new series in Autumn: it's always been an April/May/June show.

The new Hotel Inspector Alex Pollizi has hotel credentials being the daughter of Olga Pollizi and niece of Roco Forte and judging from the trailers, looks more fierce than Ruth was. I think a change of presenter is a good way to refresh the programme.

Oh, I agree with the Fiver promo for HI Unseen, very badly done.

It's a shame that Jekyll lost nearly 2m viewers as i honestly felt that it was a good show, but i suppose just over 3m isn't *too* bad, considering ITV usually get 2m or less after 9:00pm now because of old film repeats.

Have to say I totally agree with you - the lengths some will go to spin the figures makes you think they must all be politicians.

The show was getting consistently in the BBC1 top 30 aswell between position 20 and 30 which is good I suppose and shows how the other shows around it were performing.


Now I come to think of it maybe Ruth Watson is one of those people like Marco Pierre White who many of the public do not actually like. Personally I love her

The new presenter does seem to suit the style of other FIVE lifestyle/factual shows and as you say it is a good way to refresh the programme.

On the other hand FIVER are trying way too hard with this teen thing and that advert could potentially lose the main show some viewers if people think HE will be on the main show aswell.

Jekyll was a fantastic show but felt it deserved more than a saturday night summer slot which it was destined to get poorer ratings than it could have by being in a weeknight slot.

It deffinatly didn't suit the feel of BBC1 saturday nights; A 9:00pm slot on a thursday would have worked better, or maybe do what they have done for Criminal Justice and showed the whole thing over 6 consecutive nights.

And i notice you're new to the forums to welcome!

Seeing as DS are reporting Heroes having a hard time for its finale (with quotes like "generally hovered around 2.5m and the first episode was watched by 3.7m"). As seems to be a common mistake, they haven't taken account of the BBC3 viewers...

So...

How many watched it at 10:30 on BBC3?

K

Have you got the ratings for:

The Chase
True Dare Kiss
Rosemary & Thyme

THANKS!

the results are in for Barb
I manged to get Channel Fiver



Neighbours and h&a seems to be doing really well. for a 7pm show Neighbours should all least pull in more viewers.

Well, hang on a minute?

Can anyone tell me if NaT starts bang on 10 every night? And does anyone reckon it'd get a higher audience if it put the Regional News separately at 10.25pm, so the actual NaT national news was counted for a full 25 minutes? Correct me if I'm wrong but the Regional News drags down its figures, doesn't it?

The regional news brings the average rating down a little bit, by about 0.1m or 0.2m. Last night, it brought it down by 0.1m. So, not much. It still gets pretty poor ratings, compared to the superior BBC News.