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Old 20-04-2008, 13:47
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Biggest shows of the week,

Eastenders, Coronation Street and Britains Got Talent.

That is so depressing it makes you give up on this country having any taste whatsoever. Seriously, who watches this rubbish? I always thought of TV as a bit of escapism.
I don't watch Eastenders and Corrie, but it isn't hard to see why they are popular. They have been on air for 20+ years and had plenty time to build many characters that people care about. It's an established audience, probably much like Dr Who. It means that even when the quality goes down, the ratings might not dip as quickly.

Ithink anyone would find that Britain's Got Talent is watched by families and a generally wide selection of the British public. I think what works so well is that it's far more light-hearted than X Factor. The competition isn't as serious (certainly not at this stage) and there is such brilliant variety in the show. It has it's flaws (I really hope they don't keep up this routine of a sob story in the last 5 minutes) but for 55 minutes it is excellent Saturday night TV.

Ratings are generally starting to decline as we approach summer, but to add 1.5m viewers on a launch (at any time of the year) is outstanding. I thought it had stopped adding viewers, but clearly not.

Still amazed at the success of All Star Mr and Mrs, but I suppose it has a market on a Saturday night. I haven't seen it but I imagine it's probably very light hearted and Phil and Fearne do work well together.

Pushing Daisies is holding up not too bad. I really hope it sticks above 4 million for the rest of the series... well, actually it might be an idea for it to lose some viewers and get snapped up by a channel that would treat it properly.

I'd Do Anything benefitted from being out the way of BGT.
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Old 20-04-2008, 13:54
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Well, what a night on British television ratings and there's been a lot of replies on Ratings Thread, it made Page 400 of the Ratings Thread quite memorable.

I guessed that BGT would rise, as it did last year. At the start of the series, some people on the Predictions Thread were guessing really low figures. I am not a chav/hooligan and nor is my grandmother or uncle or younger brother. But we all watch Britain's Got Talent, because it appeals to absolutely everyone and the variety is absolutely brilliant. The judges are also great and even if the sob stories annoy you, it gives you the opportunity to know the contestant, which is nice IMO.

Mr & Mrs is light Saturday night viewing and it's one of my pet hates. But I am impartial and to be honest, I don't know why so many people mock these shows when they keep quiet about BBC shows like The Kids Are All Right. Actually, I think Mr & Mrs was a great move from ITV because it's adopted the 'All Star' format, linking it with the ever successful revival of Family Fortunes. Hopefully now, we'll see a teatime return for Bullseye on a Sunday evening after your good ol' roast.

I guess that Doctor Who will rise about a million because I certainly recorded it last night. A lot of people prefer to record it because it's actually nice to watch with the family. Well, perhaps it happened, but I really don't know. Lets be honest though, the first two episodes of the series were appauling and I watch Doctor Who. But the third episode was good, and exciting, so hopefully next week things will pick up.

Pushing Daisies is getting great figures for a US import and I started watching it last night. I love the concept, so unique, not really heard of in British television. It's innovative and hopefully ITV can take a leaf out of its book for new drama and stuff. I know Moving Wallpaper will turn out as a hit.

So, ITV has had a mixed 2008 so far...but what has done well...not just by ratings but in my opinion

Benidorm (This can do very very well in the Third Series in the right slot)

Moving Wallpaper (Great comedy, will get better in a new later slot on a different night)

Pushing Daisies (Great variety for ITV)

Mr & Mrs (Unexpected hit but brilliant depth of programming on a Saturday night for ITV)

The Fixer (A brilliant drama met by the 'untrust of ITV for making these programmes'. Hopefully, people will realise what a good drama it actually is)
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Old 20-04-2008, 13:59
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Yup, the Man Utd game average 870,000 (5.3%) during Doctor Who
You got the 10,000th post!

Long may the Ratings Thread continue!
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Old 20-04-2008, 14:49
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Wow!!! BGT is officially a massive hit. I can't believe it.

Phenomenal ratings.
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Old 20-04-2008, 15:14
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Has Gladiators started yet? & If so what were the ratings??
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Old 20-04-2008, 15:33
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ITV are past masters at producing lowest common denominator TV and BGT is no exception - at least it keeps chavs off the street for an hour. BBC1 needs to ditch Andrew Lloyd Webber rubbish as well as Graeme Norton (just not right for Saturday night) and concentrate on new entertainment with professional artists and comics. Also stop mucking about with the schedule for Dr Who - it peaked at 7.5m the time it started last week! And lastly shove Casualty into the 8pm slot of Sunday and give us some new drama on Saturday. Over to you Jay Hunt.
Actually this particular "chav" recorded BGT allowing me to be on the streets for that particular hour in which I went round mugging some of the "posh BBC 1 viewers" who like to watch "new entertainment with professional artisits and comics", throwing stones at buses and hurling abuse at all the elderly people in the borough so i think the police will have to think of another strategy to rid of anti-social behaviour from our streets from 8-9pm of a Sat night as simply telling ITV to show BGT is all well and good, apart from the fatal flaw in this plan - the VCR (a stolen one of course).
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Old 20-04-2008, 15:46
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I wonder how they will react to Christopher Biggins & his partner next week? You would expect the older generation to be a bit more conservative. Will it affect the audience?
Are they renaming it Mr and Mr for the week?

Seriously, I doubt it will have that much effect. People in their 50s and 60s were young in the 1960s and they are a more youthful older generation than any previous, if you see what I mean,
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Old 20-04-2008, 16:20
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I wonder how they will react to Christopher Biggins & his partner next week? You would expect the older generation to be a bit more conservative. Will it affect the audience?
Interesting scenario but I doubt it wil affect the ratings.
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Old 20-04-2008, 16:22
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ITV1 seems to dominate Saturday Nights though BBC One and Five did well as usual. The success of Mr and Mrs makes me wonder whether ITV should commission gameshows all year round to complement whatever talent show is on after it for example Duel or Millionare in January-March, Mr and Mrs March-May, You Bet! in June-August and Family Fortunes in September-December.

I'm not a big fan of the talent shows but they have aloong with family dramas like Doctor Who and Primeval have helped revitalise Saturdays night television in the last few years.
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Old 20-04-2008, 16:32
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Has Gladiators started yet? & If so what were the ratings??
No, not yet. It's expected to start mid-May.
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Old 20-04-2008, 16:45
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ITV1 seems to dominate Saturday Nights though BBC One and Five did well as usual. The success of Mr and Mrs makes me wonder whether ITV should commission gameshows all year round to complement whatever talent show is on after it for example Duel or Millionare in January-March, Mr and Mrs March-May, You Bet! in June-August and Family Fortunes in September-December.

I'm not a big fan of the talent shows but they have aloong with family dramas like Doctor Who and Primeval have helped revitalise Saturdays night television in the last few years.
I agree. When was the last time we said that ITV1 had a fair domination of wekend on TV, earlier this year with DOI on Sundays and now BGT on Saturdays. I'm guessing Foyle's War will crush the BAFTA's.
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:06
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Yikes!! BGT ratings go through the roof!! 10.3m is fantastic! Shame Doctor Who rated so low. I thought it was the best episode of the new series so far...
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:14
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This will be a great weekend for ITV.

Wonder what the all-day/peaktime shares are for both days.

Now, ITV needs to start thinking of its non-peaktime weekend output. I hope it comes up with a sports show, a nature series and perhaps a daytime weekend variety show. We surely hope.
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:18
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Now, ITV needs to start thinking of its non-peaktime weekend output. I hope it comes up with a sports show, a nature series and perhaps a daytime weekend variety show. We surely hope.
Unlikely. The future of weekend daytime is going to be major sport when available but otherwise cheap & cheerful programming consisting of repeats of primetime shows, movies and re-runs of old crime dramas.
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:21
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If I were in charge of the BBC ONE scheduling:

5.40 The Kids Are Alright (This would absolutely not be recomissioned, however)

6.20 I'd Do Anything

7.20 Doctor Who

8.05 The National Lottery 1 vs. 100

8.55 Casualty

9.45 Love Soup

10.15 A Question of Sport

10.45 BBC News; Regional News; Weather

11.05 Match of the Day
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:23
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Its refreshing to see such high numbers for Saturday night TV, especially as the lighter nights are creeping in.
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:25
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Its refreshing to see such high numbers for Saturday night TV, especially as the lighter nights are creeping in.
Quite right.
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:26
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Isn't it annoying how ITV have managed to get Saturday nights so god damn right?

Britain's Got Talent passing the 10m mark already was a surprise. Even the dullest show on the planet Mr and Mrs is getting close to 7m viewers, while Pushing Daisies attracted close to 5m viewers despite them missing out an entire episode. The gazillonth repeat of Back To The Future faired well, as did the latest repeat of American Pie 2 I suspect.

It just goes to show what ITV could achieve if they actually made an effort.
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:44
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Isn't it annoying how ITV have managed to get Saturday nights so god damn right?

Britain's Got Talent passing the 10m mark already was a surprise. Even the dullest show on the planet Mr and Mrs is getting close to 7m viewers, while Pushing Daisies attracted close to 5m viewers despite them missing out an entire episode. The gazillonth repeat of Back To The Future faired well, as did the latest repeat of American Pie 2 I suspect.

It just goes to show what ITV could achieve if they actually made an effort.
This is not true. They made the effort with Moving Wallpaper and The Fixer, two great shows, and they both flopped miserably. Hope series two does better.
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:49
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I'm hoping that BBC's return of New Tricks wipes teh floor again - Episodes last reached 8-9m viewers ! and a repeat beat Emmerdale in its number of audience.
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Old 20-04-2008, 17:52
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I'm hoping that BBC's return of New Tricks wipes teh floor again - Episodes last reached 8-9m viewers ! and a repeat beat Emmerdale in its number of audience.
New Tricks will struggle due to the endless repeats being aired. I reckon at most 6.5 million.
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Old 20-04-2008, 18:00
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ITV are just not consistent enough with providing quality shows which get high ratings. They've got the soaps, 3 hit reality shows and sunday night dramas. But hardly anything else gets 6-7m+ for them.

On weeknights, even though they've got two mega soaps, they still lose to BBC1 in the all-day shares every day. If BBC1 didn't show the Kids TV between 3.30-5.00 (like ITV1), then their all day share would be even higher.

I think a reason for ITV's lower ratings are the schedulers. Some of the decisions made in terms of scheduling have been terrible- Moving Wallpaper and Echo Beach on Fridays when the core audience is out!
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Old 20-04-2008, 18:11
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ITV are just not consistent enough with providing quality shows which get high ratings. They've got the soaps, 3 hit reality shows and sunday night dramas- that's it. Hardly anything else gets 6-7m+ for them.

On weeknights, even though they've got two mega soaps, they still lose to BBC1 in the all-day shares every day. If BBC1 didn't show the Kids TV between 3.30-5.00 (like ITV1), then their all day share would be even higher.

I think a reason for ITV's lower ratings are the scheudlers. Some of the decisions made in terms of scheduling have been terrible- Moving Wallpaper and Echo Beach on Fridays when the core audience is out!
It doesent even seems as if the loss of Neighbours has affected them to any great degree their still getting 20-50% consistently in daytime with things like Bargain hunt and Diagnosis murder repeats from the 80s. On most days the BBC has already won the all day shares by teatime.
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Old 20-04-2008, 18:22
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How much will ITV actually care about their all day share? Surely it places far too much emphasis on dayime (as it is so long) when it will contribute far less revenue (compared to peaktime)?

As for BBC1, I suppose it's a balancing act. Doctor Who is probably losing some viewers in its earlier slot, but boosting I'd Do Anything. If they switch them around, I'd Do Anything could lose alot of viewers.
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Old 20-04-2008, 18:24
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How much will ITV actually care about their all day share? Surely it places far too much emphasis on dayime (as it is so long) when it will contribute far less revenue (compared to peaktime)?
I suppose. but even in peaktime, ITV1 is usually behind BBC1. And that's quite bad considering ITV has 2 soaps (sometimes 3 soap episodes each day), whilst BBC has 1 soap.

As for BBC1, I suppose it's a balancing act. Doctor Who is probably losing some viewers in its earlier slot, but boosting I'd Do Anything. If they switch them around, I'd Do Anything could lose alot of viewers.
I think BBC have got their priorities wrong. Doctor Who should have been given priority and put in the later slot, because it's got far more of a potential audience. Also, last year the West End show was doing well when it was scheduled in an earlier slot.
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