Well that doesn't bode well for future episodes of this show.


And when Holby would go against The Bill on some Wednesdays in the past The Bill would win. Bizarre.

The first X Factor episode officially averaged 10.78m. It was the top programme of that week by 1.5m. Also it is the 6th most watched programme of the year so far.

I think Mutual Friends did really well considering it was up against the Secret Millionaire - and it beat it

Of course it was only in the last deal that home friendlies were live on terrestrial television. In a way we've gone back to the contract that ran 2001-04, when competitive games were on the BBC and Sky and friendlies were on Sky alone, and indeed there were two live FA Cup ties on terrestrial rather than three.

The difference now is that away friendlies will be live on terrestrial as well, so while it's a step down from the last contract, it's a step up from any previous deal. And I think friendlies on Setanta alone is OK, it's the competitive matches that should always be on terrestrial.

But there's no away competitve matches on terretrial tv now. I seem to remember watching away competitve matches were on the bbc between 2001-2004. So in a way, it's a step down from the previous 2 deals.

I think it really found it's pace in the last 15 mins or so, so I would recommend people to give it another go

BARB have updated this weeks figures but they have duplicated many shows.

I'm sure they'll sort it but very strange error to make.

Here's a snippet of the error-

1 EASTENDERS (MON 2000) 8.92
1 EASTENDERS (MON 2000) 8.92
2 NEW TRICKS (MON 2101) 8.87
2 NEW TRICKS (MON 2101) 8.87
3 EASTENDERS (FRI 2000) 7.84
3 EASTENDERS (FRI 2000) 7.84
4 WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (WED 2100) 7.10
4 WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? (WED 2100) 7.10
5 EASTENDERS (THU 2000) 6.76
5 EASTENDERS (THU 2000) 6.76
6 TEN O'CLOCK NEWS (WED 2200) 6.34
6 TEN O'CLOCK NEWS (WED 2200) 6.34
7 LOST LAND OF THE JAGUAR (WED 2000) 5.88
7 LOST LAND OF THE JAGUAR (WED 2000) 5.88
8 TEN O'CLOCK NEWS (MON 2200) 5.84
8 TEN O'CLOCK NEWS (MON 2200) 5.84
9 BBC NEWS (SUN 2200) 5.43
9 BBC NEWS (SUN 2200) 5.43
10 TEN O'CLOCK NEWS (THU 2200) 5.15
10 TEN O'CLOCK NEWS (THU 2200) 5.15

Its the same for all five channels.

Mutual Friends was crap. I felt like I wasted 1 hour of my life. It lacked any warmth.

ITV have got interesting new shows in the 9pm slot starting Monday:

Monday: The Children (Part 1 of 3)
Wednesday: Lost in Austen (Part 1 of 4)

I can see LiA being ratings winner, not sure about The Children with a repeat of New Tricks against it.

Not entirely ratings related, but an interesting bit of news this afternoon: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...ortsrights.itv

W/e 17.8.08

01 The X Factor Itv1 Sat 10..78
02 Coronation Street Itv1 Mon 2030 9.28
03 Eastenders Bbc1 Mon 8.92
04 New Tricks Bbc1 Mon 8.87
05 Coronation Street Itv1 Mon 1930 8.65
06 Coronation Street Itv1 Wed 8.57
07 Coronation Street Itv1 Fri 1930 8.02
08 Eastedners Bbc1 Fri 7.84
09 Coronation Street Itv1 Fri 2030 7.78
10 Who Do You Think You Are? Bbc1 Wed 7.10
11 Midsomer Murders Itv1 Sun 6.87
12 Heartbeat Itv1 Sun 6.80
13 Eastenders Bbc1 Thur 6.76
14 Millionaire? Itv1 Sat 6.48
15 Emmerdale Itv1 Tues 6.40
16 10 News Bbc1 Wed 6.34
17 Emmerdale Itv1 Wed 6.33
18 Emmerdale Itv1 Mon 6.28
19 Lost Land Of The Jaguar Bbc1 Wed 5.88
20 10 News Bbc1 Mon 5.84
21 Emmerdale Itv1 Fri 5.83
22 Emmerdale Itv1 Thurs 5.68
23 10 News Bbc1 Sun 5.43
24 Youve Been Framed Itv1 Sat 5.26
25 10 News Bbc1 Thurs 5.15
26 Holby City Bbc1 Tues 5.12
27 Bbc News Bbc1 Sat 5.09
28 Last Choir Standing Bbc1 Sat 5.08
29 Last Choir Standing Bbc1 Sat 4.92
30 6 News Bbc1 Mon 4.90

***
Secret Millionaire Thurs Ch4 4.16
Dragons Den Mon Bbc2 3.73
Hellboy Sun Five 3.02


******

Multi Channel

01 Ford Super Sunday Sun Sky Sports 1 1,383,000
02 Xtra Factor Sat Itv2 1,322,000
03 Armageddon Thurs Bbc3 999,000
04 Eastenders Thurs Bbc3 849,000
05 Ford Super Sunday Sun Sky Sports 1 818,000
06 The X Factor Sun Itv2 817,000
07 Americas Got Talent Fri Itv2 785,000
08 Xtra Factor: Auditions Wed Itv2 762,000
09 Family Guy Wed Bbc3 678,000
10 Ford Football Sat Sky Sports 1 671,000
11 Eastenders Mon Bbc3 652,000
12 Hollyoaks Tues E4 639,000
13 Lara Croft Tomd Raider Sun Bbc3 635,000
14 Hollyoaks Thurs E4 613,000
15 Hollyoaks Mon E4 607,000
16 Uefa Cup Thurs Itv4 599,000
17 Family Guy Wed Bbc3 587,000
18 Family Guy Fri Bbc3 579,000
19 Life On Mars Mon Bbc4 576,000
20 Family Guy Thurs Bbc3 576,000
21 Poirot Wed Itv3 563,000
22 Come Dine With Me Sun More4 563,000
23 Star Gate Continum Tues Sky One 543,000
24 Armageddon Sat Bbc3 540,000
25 Hollyoaks Fri E4 534,000
26 Shadowman Thurs Five Us 532,000
27 Lara Croft Tomb Raider Wed Bbc3 530,000
28 Lewis Wed Itv3 526,000
29 Live At The Apollo Tues Dave 520,000
30 Gladiators Sun Sky One 511,000

***
31 Hollyoaks Wed E4 509,000

rzt, what do Daily Cooks Challenge get on ITV1 (15:00) compared to the programmes around it?

See this (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=884342) for why I'm asking.

Yesterday (15.00-16.00):
BBC1: 391,000 (5%)
BBC2: 959,000 (15%)
ITV1: 1.1m (17%)
CH4: 434,000 (6%)
CH5: 332,000 (5%)

It won its slot yesterday, and I assume it's like that every normal day.

That cant be right surely?!?

Is it repeats on ITV3?

Mutual Friends was in a competative slot but it still seems on the low side. It seems gone are the days when brand new series get big ratings. It started at the beginning of the year with the new shows on ITV1 barely breaking 5m and most of those show getting much less. That trend carryed on when BBC1 started their new shows. It seems only the old favourites ie New Tricks, Doc Martin, Midsomer etc have the power to pull in the large numbers. It can't be very encouraging for tv execs.

Are these types of figures going to be the norm from now on regarding new shows and if so what figures should the stations be looking for when thinking about recommissioning new shows? Should they be looking at raw figures or consistency across a whole series?

I suppose Life on Mars/Ashes To Ashes are two recent drama series that got relatively big audiences 6-8 million - and when the latter debuted this year it had a very good share. I still don't think it would be impossible for a well-written, well- received new drama to get 7-8 million - it just needs everything being right from the plot, script, actors and time slot - having said that, that's not likely to happen anytime soon on ITV1, is it?

I'd forgotten about Life on Mars, IIRC they had very good and consistent ratings for the first series and then the Beeb shoved it on Tuesday and it lost a good 1-1.5m viewers because it clashed with the footie. Such a basic error.

It's certainly going to be an interesting time this Autumn, lots of new and returning series. I predict there won't be too many of the new shows getting big ratings, though I could be proved wrong. Maybe 4-5m will become the new 6-8m and new series will be recommissioned with figures that a couple of years ago would be deemed poor.

I think they're repeats, yeah.

Yes, I think EastEnders suffers from being the meat in that sandwich.

Countdown repeats aren't a huge sucess by the look of that.

rzt, any chance of the ratings for:

How not to Live your Life, BBC3, 10:30, 26/08

311,000 (2%)

rzt,

have you got any ratings for ITV3 last night
7:00pm The Wonder Years
7:30pm The Wonder Years

19.00- 78,000
19.30- 86,000

rzt, do you know how University Challenge (Monday BBC 2, 8pm) did?