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I think ITV will be very happy if News at Ten manages to stabilise a little at 2.7-2.9 million. If it gets over 3 million tonight, ITV will be very happy I would imagine.
I think ITV could also benefit big time on Wednesday if the Champions League Final on Wednesday. If it goes into Extra Time & Penalties, the programme won't finish till at least 10:45, meaning the viewers will stay till at least the end and possibly a higher News at Ten Forty Five (lol!) rating!
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^ Isn't Tonight basically the same thing?
Also what time would you want to show your show? ![]() By the way I like your suggestions- I can see you working at ITV one day. Unlike 'The Tonight Programme', it will look at world issues, whereas Tonight looks at British issues. On the other issues, the popular Channel 4 documentary series, 'What Really Happened', is produced by ITN. So I wonder why ITV do not look at these shows and think they can have a go. It's popular and it will get viewers. At the moment, If ITV can expand its series of:- B Road Britain, Ann Widdecombe, a primetime cookery show starring Marco Pierre White (Marco's Menu), a soccer programme (On the Ball) on a Thursday night at 7:30pm; Special Assignment, Special South Bank Shows on Monday, Too Fat To Toddle documentaries, a few more like the Duke and the Duchess, not too many mind you. And I think ITV's factual schedule could become renowned... |
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If BBC One or ITV1 get it right with a 9pm drama, they can get anything from 6m (Waking the Dead) to 9m viewers (New Tricks, Doc Martin) in that slot.
9pm docs are fine as occasional slot fillers (Traffic Cops, or the recent Royal docs which were there to fill a gap before Simon Cowell's talent show gets stripped for five weeknights), but with the exception of some landmark wildlife series (which still don't hit the ratings heights of a successful drama), almost any multi-episode documentary series would die on its backside in a 9pm slot. |
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Good ideas PJMillar. ITV needs a flagship series like Channel 4 has Dispatches and so on. Overall ITV is still in a mess really, Friday night comedy is not a good idea, and the oversaturation of soap on Mon/Fri is still a problem. I think we need a much more intelligent schedule that is cleaner, simpler and most importantly is best for the demographics/advertisers.
*puts fantasy schedule hat on* Sunday - Soap and hearty dramas With a huge number of viewers, primetime Sunday had always been one of ITV1's best performing nights - until recently. Reinstate soap and drama and have a decent hour of factual programming with the News followed by South Bank (which should be given a beefed up commission and permanent 22:30 slot.) 19:00 Sunday Night News 19:30 Heartbeat 20:30 Coronation Street 21:00 Kingdom 22:00 News at Ten 22:30 The South Bank Show Monday - Best contemporary dramas. The 9pm slot is the showcase for the best ITV dramas. T&R would air here, concluding the next day. 19:00 Emmerdale 20:00 Tonight (1/2) 20:30 Coronation Street 21:00 The Fixer 22:00 News at Ten 22:35 Headcases Tuesday 9pm slot for returning successful shows most often, like Doc Martin. 19:00 The Bill 20:00 Regional Shows 20:30 Coronation Street 21:00 Doc Martin 22:00 News at Ten 22:35 Sandbanks (1/2) Wednesday - Award winning factual every week Unless there's football, Wednesday features a weekly revived and remodelled World in Action (like PJ Millar's idea) which is a more international take on the news, topical and populist but still high brow. Leads into News at Ten. 19:00 Emmerdale 20:00 Tonight (2/2) 20:30 Ann Widdecombe Versus... 21:00 World in Action: China in Ruins 22:00 News at Ten 22:35 Sandbanks (2/2) Thursday Traditional The Bill/Corrie with comedy at 9pm and Piers Morgan's chat show after the News. 19:00 The Bill 20:00 Regional Shows 20:30 Coronation Street 21:00 Moving Wallpaper 22:00 News at Ten 22:35 Piers With... Friday 19:00 Emmerdale 20:00 Midsomer Murders 22:00 News at Ten 22:35 Friday Night Film So with this schedule, Emmerdale goes out 3 times a week for an hour. The Bill moves to a secure 7pm slot on Tue/Thu. Only two days in the week are dedicated to drama series, which I think is good for variety. The Friday night 8pm slot is for the two-hour dramas like Marple, Midsomer, and repeats of Frost and Morse. News at Ten six nights a week. Coronation Street moves to the centre of the night, at 8.30pm on Sunday/Monday/Tuesday/Thursday, the nights where either drama or comedy are its lead in. Wednesday, soon to be more disrupted by footie, is the semi-permanent home for factual shows, a refreshing alternative to the rest of the week. These factual shows are self contained and thus not disrupted for football. |
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Another 6.4m for Waking The Dead. I only started watching this show this series, but I've really enjoyed it. Might be worth catching up on the previous series'.
Its ratings have been very stable, with a high of 6.8m and a low of 5.9m, but generally around 6.3/6.4m for 6 weeks (12 eps- last one tonight) is excellent! These are the dramas BBC need to keep. A show that can pull in the same number every week. |
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How many viewers do people think Britain's Got Talent is gonna gain next week?
The schedule is very interesting. I can see it coming out tops on Monday and Friday due to the Coronation Street lead in's. Wednesday also has a Corrie lead in, however BBC1 are showing an England game. Granted, its only a friendly, but they have still been known to pull in massive numbers. Thursday should be no probs for it, as BBC1 have the ratings disasters that are Holby Blue and The Invisibles. However, Tuesday is tricky, up against Holby City (which gets an EE lead in) and the The Apprentice. I wonder if viewers will realise its on a day early next week..? All in all, a very very interesting ratings week ahead of us... |
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In reply to Polonius' schedules, I think The Bill would work better at 7.30pm on Tuesday and Thursday, with regional programming starting at 7pm.
Personally I think Friday night should be comedy night, with ITV focusing on entertainment, and probably News at Ten should just go Sunday - Thursday. I agree with the late night film on Fridays. Also I feel that if ITV were to commision a chat show with Piers Morgan as host they would want it at the heart of their schedule at 9pm. Do you think there should be regional programming on Wednesday at 8.30pm too, in rotation with something such as Anne Widdecombe versus...? |
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How many viewers do people think Britain's Got Talent is gonna gain next week?
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On Friday the BBC have just thrown a VoD repeat on (which is understandable). I really don't know how BGT is going to rate, I'd guess it will stay between 8-11m on Monday - Friday, with Tuesday rating the lowest and Thursday the highest. On Saturday I expect it will get around 12m for the final.
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If its hot next week the weather could hinder things, but it didn't last year so I'll guess we'll just have to see.
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Monday 26 May 2008 to Sunday 01 June 2008 Mixed weather next week.
"Showers for most of us, but also some sunshine." A broad area of low pressure is expected to extend across the UK, bringing a mix of bright or sunny spells and occasional rain. Southwest Scotland could be one of the wetter spots, with Northern Ireland, Northwest England and the Midlands seeing fewer showers. It should feel reasonably warm with temperatures into the low twenties Celsius generally, although it will be rather cooler where rain becomes more persistent. |
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On Friday the BBC have just thrown a VoD repeat on (which is understandable). I really don't know how BGT is going to rate, I'd guess it will stay between 8-11m on Monday - Friday, with Tuesday rating the lowest and Thursday the highest. On Saturday I expect it will get around 12m for the final.
Tuesday and Wednesday could be interesting tests. BBC will be appealing somewhat to the male market which might find some success because at a guess - BGT is perhaps a more female-dominated audience. The Apprentice could struggle considering its on a different night though I'd be surprised to see less than about 6 million. I actually think Wednesday could be BGT's toughest night. The last England home friendly in February got 9.1m (10.0m for the match), although that was in February and had the added interest of being Capello's first match. Still, I'd be surprised if the match didn't get 7.5-8m viewers. |
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*Puts fantasy schedule hat on*
Sunday - Intelligent drama aimed at the over 35 demographic Sunday is still ITV's best performing night, but is slipping due to constant changing in the schedule. Traditionally, Sunday's have been stable, and so have viewers. This new schedule would give the over 35's a brilliant end to the week. And to compensate, ITV2 could have its most entertainment filled night of the week too. With Heartbeat moving forward an hour to 7pm, News at Ten and The South Bank Show can fit neatly into this schedule. 19:00 Heartbeat 20:00 Agatha Christie's Marple 22:00 News at Ten 22:30 The South Bank Show Monday - Contemporary drama aimed at a more sophisticated ABC viewer Monday nights can act as a compromise for ITV's new drama shake-up. Due to the return of News at Ten, ITV needed one hour dramas, however there are a number of these shows that need 90 minutes, such as the below - another advantage would be the start time would knock BBC1's drama. With a focus on factual programming with a new look Tonight Programme, together with an extended News at Ten. And of course, without the annoying double parter soaps, which will keep audiences steady. 19:00 Emmerdale 19:30 Coronation Street 20:00 The Tonight Programme 20:30 Wire in the Blood 22:00 News at Ten [extended] 22:45 Movie Premiere TuesdayA return to some quality programming including some light factual stuff together with some equally light drama series Emmerdale returns to its half hour, but aided with a very brave programme aimed at women at 7:30. The Menu, hosted possibly by Marco Pierre White, could focus on different menus in a long series. It would bring stability and variety to an uneasy night on ITV. Other shows like Who Wants to be a Millionaire can enable a rare delve into entertainment on weekdays but seen as the only alternative to the dominant Holby City and the continuation of Champions League football (for the moment). The main aspect of this night is to maintain viewers when taking nights off due to the Champions League; Taggart and other shows like it are a run of very different investigations so the viewer will not mind being interupted for one week. 19:00 Emmerdale 19:30 The Menu [new cookery programme] 20:00 Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? 21:00 Taggart 22:00 News at Ten 22:35 Ann Widdecombe Versus... (1/3) Wednesday - Award winning factual every week Like its predecessor World in Action, Special Assignment focuses on important world issues of the time, hosted weekly by Julie Etchingham. Another popular factual programme, Ann Widdecombe Versus, could join other successes like Piers Morgan on Sandbanks to create a brand new 'three part factual series base' from Tuesday to Thursday. I feel it's also important to keep the solid trio of Emmerdale, Coronation Street and The Bill on Wednesday nights. 19:00 Emmerdale 19:30 Coronation Street 20:00 The Bill 21:00 Special Assignment 22:00 News at Ten 22:35 Ann Widdecombe Versus (2/3) ThursdayITV's dedication to comedy A new football show could bring a different type of male to a regular ITV programme. On The Ball could be a revolutionary new weekly show focusing on every division, with wide topics discussed with real pundits. Perhaps with a round table of expertise, discussing news stories, and becoming renowned for sports journalism, a great alternative to EastEnders that might pick up a quantity of viewers. B Road Britain a nice factual alternative, bringing factual programming to everyday of the week, this time in nature form. A possible return of nature programme Survival could proceed this. On the subject of comedy, ITV could find the right viewer on a competitive night where all channels fight for around 2/3 million viewers. 19:00 Emmerdale 19:30 On The Ball 20:00 B Road Britain 21:00 Moving Wallpaper 21:30 Headcases 22:00 News at Ten 22:35 Ann Widdecombe Versus (3/3) FridayA cosy night of classics for ITV A revived series of Goodnight Sweetheart is a good idea, as ITV now owns the rights to the show. And classic Midsomer Murders should be cut from the weekday schedules and instead shown here, of course with some variation. Other classics should air tonight and I can see this as the only way ITV can cope with the lure of the BBC News and Jonathan Ross. 19:00 Emmerdale 19:30 Coronation Street 20:00 The Tonight Programme 20:30 Goodnight Sweetheart 21:00 Midsomer Murders 23:00 The Late News 23:15 Afterlife [classic episodes] So with this schedule Emmerdale goes out a nice regular 5 times a week with Coronation Street going out 3 times a week. More room now for factual programming which can build over time. The question is: Which schedule is better, mine or Polonius? There's only one way to find out... FIGHT!
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Everybody I know (the men) seem to be talking about the football, I think it will do really well and the news is hyping it up as well.
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E4 (inc. +1)
7pm Hollyoaks 710,700 7.30pm My Name Is Earl 388,700 8pm Friends 263,900 8.30pm Friends 322,500 9pm The Wedding Planner 412,800 11pm Hollyoaks: In The City 52,600 More4 (inc. +1) 7pm Grand Designs 150,500 8pm More4 News 41,300 8.30pm The Daily Show with Jon Stewart 32,200 9pm Grand Designs 145,800 10pm Shrink Rap 112,300 11pm ER 51,600 Film4 (inc. +1) 7pm The Englishman Who Went Up A Hill... 84,300 9pm Crash 378,500 More 4 has a very established 8pm hour, but it is truly dire ratings wise. Instead of having Jon Stewart, why not make their own UK equivalent? Put it on after 9pm if they have to and make it their flagship show. Alot of talk about ITV1 on Sundays and it seems that while it worked perfectly without soaps while DOI was on, they don't have the material to keep that up. So the general concensus appears to be to continue reaching out to the older audience they currently attract. However, with BBC1 also doing that, I think Sunday would be a good night to make as ITV2's second key night where they would make a major play for the younger viewers that might not be getting much choice on the terrestrials. Either that or Five could go for it. |
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Hollyoaks is really doing fantastic business for E4. Consistently getting 600,000 viewers even in the good weather. My Name is Earl is also doing a good job holding onto that audience, even better than BBLB at some points. Interesting to note that the older repeats of Friends get considerably fewer viewers than the later seasons. Hopefully The Inbetweeners will continue to grow its audience this week and get a second series commission.
More 4 has a very established 8pm hour, but it is truly dire ratings wise. Instead of having Jon Stewart, why not make their own UK equivalent? Put it on after 9pm if they have to and make it their flagship show. Alot of talk about ITV1 on Sundays and it seems that while it worked perfectly without soaps while DOI was on, they don't have the material to keep that up. So the general concensus appears to be to continue reaching out to the older audience they currently attract. However, with BBC1 also doing that, I think Sunday would be a good night to make as ITV2's second key night where they would make a major play for the younger viewers that might not be getting much choice on the terrestrials. Either that or Five could go for it. ITV2:- 6:00pm Pitch Perfect 7:00pm Gladiators 8:00pm Britain's Got Talent 9:00pm Britain's Got More Talent 10:00pm Family Guy [if only ITV2 had the rights, what a night for younger viewers] |
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Alot of talk about ITV1 on Sundays and it seems that while it worked perfectly without soaps while DOI was on, they don't have the material to keep that up. So the general concensus appears to be to continue reaching out to the older audience they currently attract. However, with BBC1 also doing that, I think Sunday would be a good night to make as ITV2's second key night where they would make a major play for the younger viewers that might not be getting much choice on the terrestrials. Either that or Five could go for it. With the success of Mr and Mrs and to a lesser extent Beat the Star, I wouldn't mind BBC One or ITV1 bringing back gameshows like The Generation Game, You Bet!, Play Your Cards Right or commissioning a new gameshow on Saturday and Sunday Nights. |
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I think ITV1 or even Five should make Sunday a family night similar to Saturday instead of Granny night which Sundays has been for a very long time. Sky One has proven with its lineup of Gladiators, Lyrics, Simpsons and Lost that young people do watch Television on Sundays.
With the success of Mr and Mrs and to a lesser extent Beat the Star, I wouldn't mind BBC One or ITV1 bringing back gameshows like The Generation Game, You Bet!, Play Your Cards Right or commissioning a new gameshow on Saturday and Sunday Nights. And while these shows are off, we could see shows like 'What You Wrote' by Ant and Dec, an idea where viewers write in about what shows they like and dislike. And, just filler shows like You've Been Framed. |
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Kiss of Death looks quite good next week, but I don't see why BBC1 scheduled it on Monday night against BGT.
They could have put in on Sunday night and got great ratings against Ultimate Force, which only got about 3.5m last week. Then put The Inspector Lynley Mysteries (yawn) on Monday night to get beaten by BGT. It's no like it's getting newed anyway - they're just getting the unshown episodes out of the way. I fear the if Kiss of Death gets smashed by BGT, then we won't be seeing it again, as either a series or one off specials, similar to Messiah. |
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Kiss of Death looks quite good next week, but I don't see why BBC1 scheduled it on Monday night against BGT.
They could have put in on Sunday night and got great ratings against Ultimate Force, which only got about 3.5m last week. Then put The Inspector Lynley Mysteries (yawn) on Monday night to get beaten by BGT. It's no like it's getting newed anyway - they're just getting the unshown episodes out of the way. I fear the if Kiss of Death gets smashed by BGT, then we won't be seeing it again, as either a series or one off specials, similar to Messiah. TBH this one week is where I'd accept BBC (or any channel) airing repeats. Bar maybe the football, I think BGT will defeat the shows it's up against (Holby City having a BBC3 repeat, The Apprentice on a different night - both shows much easier to tape than BGT is, as the latter is a live vote show). I think it'd have been interesting if BBC had risked airing new series of establshed and popular programmes - Silent Witness, Judge John Deed, New Tricks at 9 on Monday, Thursday and Friday for example, with The Apprentice on Tuesday and football on Wednesday. I think BGT would have had a run for it's money then. |
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The question is: Which schedule is better, mine or Polonius?
There's only one way to find out... FIGHT! ![]() ![]() Firstly, you seem to neglect the fact that Wednesday will be disrupted heavily and regularly for football ![]() Secondly, yours is a bit unrealistic in that you are attempting to find two episodes a week of the 2 hour dramas for Sunday and Friday! Thirdly, I have News at Ten Sunday to Friday which IMO is the only way to compete with the BBC properly. You still keep the Late News on Friday. No idea why you choose to extend it on Monday - what if it's a very slow News day, then what? Overdiluted dirge? Fourthly, my decision to air 4 Corries on Sun/Mon/Tue/Thu and 3 hour long Emmerdales was one borne out of trying to think commercially and realistically. I think Emmerdale is turning into a more hour-long soap, and thought it may as well do it without clashing with EastEnders, so airing Mon/Wed/Fri at 7pm with Corrie at 8.30pm means this can happen and EastEnders cannot sneakily move slots. Also, it gives Corrie a regular start time, 4 nights a week. Having said this, Corrie would have hour long episodes at key points in the year, i.e. for momentous storylines, on Thursday, ending at 9:30 with the climax to the week. Then followed by 30 minute comedy/filler. I think it's very important Corrie airs on separate nights, not twice a night in most cases. Fifthly my schedule is more realistic I think. I only allocate the Monday and Tuesday 9pm slots to 1 hour drama which is more than do-able over the course of the year when you factor in the Sunday sleepers and Friday 2 hours. Plus it allows for more variety in factual on Wednesday and comedy on Thursday, and also means viewers aren't bombarded with drama like they were at the start of this year.
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Kiss of Death looks quite good next week, but I don't see why BBC1 scheduled it on Monday night against BGT.
They could have put in on Sunday night and got great ratings against Ultimate Force, which only got about 3.5m last week. Then put The Inspector Lynley Mysteries (yawn) on Monday night to get beaten by BGT. It's no like it's getting newed anyway - they're just getting the unshown episodes out of the way. I fear the if Kiss of Death gets smashed by BGT, then we won't be seeing it again, as either a series or one off specials, similar to Messiah. |
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Thanks. Waking the Dead is performing very well, regardless of the competition. ITV News at Ten back to normal levels.
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Thanks. Waking the Dead is performing very well, regardless of the competition.
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ITV1 Fantasy Schedule
Seeing as people have done some fantasy ITV schedules, I thought I'd join in. This is what I think ITV should do from September 2009 when they have the rights to FA Cup, England and Wednesday Champions League Matches. It's not what I'd personally like to see, but I think this schedule could be strong for ITV and help close the gap or even over-take BBC1. I've got different schedules for different months of the year- I didn't do schedules for the summer months, as they are usually very affected due to Euro/World Cups.
September-December : http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/...cm_18bc0ff.jpg * Firstly, the green coloured shows, are the core shows that will be shown every week of the year in that slot (bar special weeks such as BGT Finals, Euros/World Cups and I'm a Celeb). * With football going to be shown on Wednesday, I think Corrie has to move. Also I don't think the 2nd Corrie ep has worked at all in terms of viewer response. So, I'd put those at 8.00 on Tuesdays and Thursdays. This would give a good lead-in for the next shows. Also, I think Emmerdale should have 30 min episodes from Sun-Friday (have 1 hour specials on Wed). I think it's important that ITV have a soap on Sunday, because at the moment their Sunday schedule is not good- it only did well during DOI, but DOI is only on 10 weeks of the year. * Sun Hill General will be shown on Tue & Thu at 8.30. It is something that ITV has considered before, and I think it could do well especially as it's got a Corrie lead-in. * The Bill will have a new timeslot of 9.00 on Tue and Thu. I think it would do well at 9.00, certainly better than most of ITV's current output in that slot. It could be getting somewhere in the region of 5m-6m viewers, which is solid. * ITV are apparently moving the XF results to Sundays, so I think they should be shown at 7.30-8.00 (after the SCD results finish). Then show a good 120 minute drama. January-February: http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/...bm_6bf2446.jpg * Firstly, although Dancing on Ice was a brilliant hit on Sundays for ITV1, I don't think both shows should return on Sundays. This is because in the short-term ITV1 might do great, they'll be moving Emmerdale around and that will have consequences. They need to give Emmerdale a static slot of 7.00 on Sundays; no moving around. So, I think DOI performances should be on Saturday and results like XF on Sundays. Then show the usual dramas after that. * On Monday, I think comedies should be shown between 9-10. I don't know why ITV insist on having comedies on Fridays, when they could do much better on Mondays. Especially Benidorm. I can see it getting 6m-7m and performing very strongly. Also, Moving Wallpaper didn't set the world alight before, but with a good slot I think it could get 4m-5m; better than ITV1's current slot average. * Also, show Taggart on Friday at 9.00. Should appeal to the ABC1s. March-May: http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/...ym_180f9e0.jpg * Heartbeat must be given a full run at a fixed time. Look at what's happening with its ratings right now due to the increasing time changes. So give it a fixed 7.30 slot. Then show movies or dramas after that. * Give the Fixer another chance in the same Monday 9.00 slot. * Also show comedies in the 9-10 hour on Fridays. |
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