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Old 09-06-2008, 11:33
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My mistake 10m-2m. I wonder how its AI's stand.
No, you're still wrong.

It was from about 9.5m to 3.5m which isn't too bad. At least NaT's audience was raised for a bit, but the news is not a show that relies or does well with lead ins anyway and I've never said it has. I've never said once on this forum that it will ever win its slot.

Why do you keep saying it always gets 2m? It hardly ever gets as low as that? Usually about 500K above that or even more with a decent drama before it.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:37
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We all have our own peculiar interests (obessions?)

I think BB is holding at about the same level it was getting last year, which is good for Channel 4, but is no longer enough to win its slot against BBC1 or ITV1 most nights.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:41
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We all have our own peculiar interests (obessions?)

I think BB is holding at about the same level it was getting last year, which is good for Channel 4, but is no longer enough to win its slot against BBC1 or ITV1 most nights.
But it still leads to increased competition. And that's what we want as the BBC and ITV will make better programming as a result to regain viewers - or that's the theory anyway.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:45
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No, you're still wrong.

It was from about 9.5m to 3.5m which isn't too bad. At least NaT's audience was raised for a bit, but the news is not a show that relies or does well with lead ins anyway and I've never said it has. I've never said once on this forum that it will ever win its slot.

Why do you keep saying it always gets 2m? It hardly ever gets as low as that? Usually about 500K above that or even more with a decent drama before it.
Last week NAT got 2.1m, 2m, 1.8m and 2.3m. Sorry but that makes your last statement a little suspect.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:47
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Last week NAT got 2.1m, 2m, 1.8m and 2.3m. Sorry but that makes your last statement a little suspect.
Well, this was because of the Great British Body - which brought appalling ratings. Look at other weeks before BGT and you will realise.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:48
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Last week NAT got 2.1m, 2m, 1.8m and 2.3m. Sorry but that makes your last statement a little suspect.
Its YTD average is 2.5m
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:49
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Its YTD average is 2.5m
My point proven.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:50
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...ngs.television

Article on Channel4+1 helping Big Brother. The Saturday show on +1 managed to add an extra 500,00 bring the total to 2.9m. So far in this thread I think only 2.4m had been reported.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:52
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Some more Saturday ratings:

BBC2
7.35pm - 9pm The Minotaur 200,000 (0.9%)
9.40pm - 10.35pm The Minotaur 300,000 (1.7%)

Five
8.20pm NCIS 1.3m (6.5%)
9.20pm CSI: NY 1.7m (8.6%)
10.20pm Law and Order 1.2m (7.6%)
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:56
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Taggart - 4.2m (19%)
Canadian Grand Prix - 3.9m (26%) *Peaking at 4.7m from 15 minutes at 7:30
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:59
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Last night's Germany match had better done well.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:01
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Last night's Germany match had better done well.
Over 4 million surely.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:02
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Over 4 million surely.
I'm hoping more around the 5.5m+ mark. I doubt it though.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:04
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We all have our own peculiar interests (obessions?)

I think BB is holding at about the same level it was getting last year, which is good for Channel 4, but is no longer enough to win its slot against BBC1 or ITV1 most nights.
I think it will comfortably beat whats on ITV 1 tonight and possibly BBC 1 as well.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:05
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I think it will comfortably beat whats on ITV 1 tonight and possibly BBC 1 as well.
Well, look at it this way. With a weakened performance from the BBC and ITV, mainly due to the fact England aren't in the Euros, it gives Big Brother a big chance to advertise the programme and to aid its recovery.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:09
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Taggart - 4.2m (19%)
Canadian Grand Prix - 3.9m (26%) *Peaking at 4.7m from 15 minutes at 7:30
That's bad, considering past Canadian/North American GP ratings...

Originally Posted by Me in the F1 Coverage thread a few weeks back
I've just been looking at the ratings at Barb.co.uk for the South/North American races (Canada, USA and Brazil), and it actually is pretty interesting to see most of them floating around a solid 4/5/6 million:

(In Brackets is the amount of time the buildup had)
................Canada...................Brazil........................USA
1999........6.38m (45 min)........7.52m (45 min)........N/A
2000........4.37m (45 min)........7.37m (40 min)........150,000*
2001........6.17m (45 min)........6.20m (40 min)........5.66m (30 min)
2002........5.83m (45 min)........6.02m (35 min)........4.54m (45 min)
2003........3.99m (45 min)........7.08m (35 min)........5.44m (45 min)
2004........3.58m (30 min)**....Under 4.52m***......4.77m (60 min)
2005.........4.97m (60 min)........4.35m (40 min)........4.52m (60 min)
2006........Under 2.73m............5.09m (60 min).........3.5m (60 min)
2007........4.69m (60 min).........7.44m (60 min)........5.31m (60 min)
2008........3.9m (Overnight)

*Shown live on ITV2.
**Only broadcast from 5pm to 7:15pm, with race start at 5:30pm due to Euro 2004. Post-race broadcast bumped to ITV2, receiving 210,000 viewers.
***First Brazillian GP at end of calendar.

Brazil 2004 official rating unknown. BARB only does top 30 for the terrestial channels, Brazil is not in top thirty, number 30 on the list has 4.52m, therefore Brazil 2004 garnered less than 4.52m.

Same goes for Canada 2006; it garnered less than 2.73m. That's partially because on BBC1 at the same time was England vs Ecuador and there was Children's Party at the Palace.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:15
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Well, this was because of the Great British Body - which brought appalling ratings. Look at other weeks before BGT and you will realise.
Your arguement seems to get stranger by the minute. You said that NAT does not rely on lead-ins and hardly ever gets as low as 2m - when I point out that it got as low as 2m at least 3 times last week you say thats because of the lead-in.

I am not trying to be pedantic but while NAT may average 2.5m it does go as low 2m fairly frequently.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:15
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Does anyone think last night's Euro match on BBC1 will be reported?
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:17
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Your arguement seems to get stranger by the minute. You said that NAT does not rely on lead-ins and hardly ever gets as low as 2m - when I point out that it got as low as 2m at least 3 times last week you say thats because of the lead-in.

I am not trying to be pedantic but while NAT may average 2.5m it does go as low 2m fairly frequently.
Yes, but you've contradicted the original argument, which you can't even remember I guess because you're too busy mocking a high quality news programme
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:18
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Quite high for Taggart repeat considering a new episode got 4.2 million on Thursday-it seems ITV are reeling out the Taggart repeats especially in daytime after getting through all of Midsomer Murders...although there is a MM repeat next Tuesday 8-10pm

With both BBC2 and CH4 over the 3 million mark at 9pm it seems the audience was fairly spread out and by adding up the shares in the 9pm hour, I don't think the Euro 2008 match could have done very well in the 9pm hour.

With ITV getting good shares for F1, Taggart & most probably Corrie I can't understand why CH4 sales is reporting the all hours is 16.6%. I'm not disputing it, but the daytime must be performing awfully and bringing the entire weeks shares down.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:19
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Does anyone think last night's Euro match on BBC1 will be reported?
Yeh I think so. Broadcast have yet to report the Sunday ratings.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:20
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Yes, but you've contradicted the original argument, which you can't even remember I guess because you're too busy mocking a high quality news programme
What is this argument even about?
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:21
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so a repeat of Taggart got better results then a new episode :P
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:22
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Per Broadcast:

"All hours shares for Saturday 7 June 2008: BBC1 – 24.4%, ITV1 – 13.8%, C4 – 7.8% (C4+1 – 0.7%), Five – 4.9%, BBC2 – 4.8%, multichannel – 43.9%."

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2...euro_2008.html

That looks very low for ITV1.
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:22
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Yeh I think so. Broadcast have yet to report the Sunday ratings.
And how many times have Broadcast ratings been inaccurate? I think it's happened a few times this week alone, which is worrying.
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