I don't think that's the case, I think it was the comment made on here that was then taken over there that started it off. It just gets a bit tetchy now & again.

I see it as very pro Zig at times and very pro Chanelle at times too. I think if you do prefer one over the other it's easy to get offended over comments made.

I post here aswell but find the anti Zig comments at bit much at times, so tend to wander over there. The same can be said for the Zig thread too. I read all three though as some interesting stuff can be found on all.

ITN news, In it nice to see chanelle again even if it was only for a split second.

Are we chums.

I can't bring up the keystone site at the mo.
Perhaps we've overloaded it?

I'm chums with all Chanelle fans !

I take your comments. It is the case though that it is not as even stevens as lots of Zak fans seem to think. The Zak fans (as illustrated by the ZAT thread) are more aggressively anti Chanelle than the Chan fan's are anti-Zak and that is expressed in the Zak and Chan Thread. Some on the Chan Thread have found it pointless to even try to express their views re; Chan and Zak on the Z & C Thread due to the aggressive Zak bias on that Thread.

I'm beginning to wonder whether we should have a separate thread: Ziggy Fans Against Chanelle Thread Appreciators (ZFACTA)

I think people who actively dislike either Ziggy or Chanelle should try not to wind up their respective fans on the Chiggy thread.

Personally I treat it as being one for people who appreciate the Chiggy relationship and both Chan and Zac. I find myself interested in the relationship but only really from the perspective of one side. Accordingly, I normally only post here, although I do read the other one.

I would love to see a no-holds barred argument between some of scions of the respective individual appreciation threads though

See your cool Kaz,

if they support only one then they have there own thread, you support the two that means you can go to all three,

I personally dont visit the Z A T thread i like him as a person but dont support him, my own feelings are that while I think he is very fond of her his own needs will always come first, In otherwords I dont fully trust him.

pienmash wrote this in the Chiggy thread, hope she doesn't mind that I nicked it and wrote it here ?

"Think she looked BOOTILICOUS last night but my brother said she made the right choice as it got everyone looking.....
Couldn't get near and pics not allowed to be taken inside...xbox thing...
She played and apparently SHE'S SHITTT HOT at it and beat a few ppl my bruv said she's won the GEEKS & nerds OVER..Especially the famous NERD... not bill, the other one.
There was a big after party, unsure if she attended though..
Yes, MR S made sure he introduced himself and Ms Electra..

My bruv did say, her smile is amazing and he know confesses to FANCYING her......he sort of, but he said she looked better in Selffridges more natural but he said she was HALO last night.

Also........Just spoke to my other sister in LA and it was on the new there and they showed Chanelle........she couldnt hear the whole thing, but she said she thought they thought VB went...........lol..
But a few ppl over there have heard of Chanelle and that the neighbours son's have her NUTS pictures up and want calendars...........

wow.
x "



PS : Just in case some don't know, N.E.R.D refers to Pharrell............fwoah

Yea I'm up for that, should we declare war.

Interesting news. SO Chanelle is a fan and is shit hot at gaming. Knew she'd win the comp. kids over. She has the kind of beauty and charm that appeals to those gamer types I think.

Great news. Glad to hear she's being appreciated and winning new fans. I love to hear real news of Chanelle from your personal connections, pienmash. Thank you for posting it here Juliet.

Do you think we'd be allowed to invite them over here to discuss things, say, just for one night? I wouldn't want general forum members getting involved . . you know the Charley fans and the like

Good morning everyone


I've not read Ziggy's interview in Love It (and the thought of Ziggy in all his glory is just too much for me) but your remarks are interesting. The stupid 'I wouldn't say I'm madly in love ........' I tend to see as Ziggy being denfensive and resisting admitting that he loves the socks of Chanelle.

I feel sure that after Chan left BBH Ziggy woke up to just how deep his feelings for her really were and I believe he hurt, and hurt badly. On her visit back to BBH his question about the possibility of talking when he left sounded to me like a very sad guy almost begging for another chance. The fact that on that occasion he saw a beautilful, confident and strong young woman was like salt rubbed into his wounded heart.
I don't think he's been able to forget that hurt feeling even now and knows he is vulnerable if she ever dumps him. Stupid remarks like that above are Ziggy avoiding publicly admitting how much Chan could hurt him in my view and his ego not allowing him to publicly admit that Chan is the one with the power. To some extent he still tries to down play Chanelle's power later in the interview when he (again foolishly) refers to her 'being too young' in relation to children.

In effect, Ziggy shows his emotional immaturity by taking a defensive stance publicly to safeguard his image if he ever gets dumped. At the same time he's showing his weakness by not admitting to his commitment phobic 'mates' that he's actually in love. eeeech! - commitment - horror!

I'm sure that he is also well aware that it is Chanelle who is the Star and the one with the money, and apart from immediate self interest, my guess is that is also a dent to his macho ego.

I get the impression that emotionallyZiggy has awakened a lot since being out of the house, but I'm sure that unless he is able to mature emotionally, and dump the 'laddish' attitude Chanelle will simply mature completely beyond him. He is a very lucky guy that Chanelle is so devoted and loyal.

Having said all that though, I do hope it works for them because I feel they are good together. (I'm feeling in an aaaaaaaaahh mood today.

Spot on Super, I have read your posts for quite some time, I must admit until I joined I didnt fully appreciate or understand the hostility towards Chan, Some seem to be Ziggy groupies and any women he is attacted to is fair game, I think thats the problem.

Yes good idea, if C_____y fans got involved it would turn ugly, have you seen the state of them.

Why's that? I thought it was a joint appreciation, aswell as speaking about the both seperate....
So what did you say...

I had the audacity to respond to some views,

they stated that Ziggy had sacrificed the relationship so it could continue on the outside, apart from the fact its ancient history it implies he was some kind of martyr,

I agree with you It Is joint appreciation thread and as such surely you should appreciate both at least to some extent, If they only appreciate one why go their,

They are vociferous in their defence of Ziggy but woe betide you if you defend Chanelle.

Complete Bollox
What the fook has that thread been doing for the last few days regarding this Billi crap? Demonizing Chanelle? No...standing up and ensuring her innocence is proven.
I have picked Ziggy to bits and am a staunch Chan supporter in there. I wont sit and praise her if I think she looks awful, behaves badly or does something I disagree with. Same goes for Ziggy.
Dont spout tripe about that thread not defending Chanelle. They have done nothing but for the last few days and thats just the last few days.

PMSL!!! Calum Best thinks he has a chance with Chan I think I don't think so

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773

Did you read what i said, i said some,

I agree by and large virtually all the members heavily defended Chanelle and I was proud to be involved,

All I am saying is any member who only supports C or Z should go on their individual threads to Big up their fave, surely that is what the individual threads are for,

This has nothing to do with anybody slating anybody what I said was last evening a few were claiming that Ziggy sacrificed his relationship in the house so that it would continue on the outside,

I put an alternative hypothesis, i,e That Chanelle sacrificed her position in the house for the relationship, this was just as equally ludicrus,

I personally don’t care who or what happened back then, but I cant be arsed with some people who make out that Ziggy is the bigger person,

As I keep saying, I like Ziggy as an indivdual but I am not a Supporter, When I go on the C & Z thread it is two support them both, I am a Chiggy fan and I for one Dearly hope they prevail,

It is only a few who I am reliably informed are from the ZAT thread harp on about Ziggy like he's some sort of God,

If you think for one minute I attacked you personally I apologise, that was not my intention,

However if you took the time to read all of my posts you would have got the bigger picture.

Sounds like a plonker from the crowd was commenting on something about Chan, perhaps the Billi BS

http://showbiz.sky.com/showbiz/artic...285832,00.html

Having said that Sky showbiz don't really like Chan

Is Calum also with NEON?

Yep No biggie.

I don't know. I thought that was a pretty positive piece for Chanelle. Four out the 15 photos are of her and five mention her. None of the captions say anything Chanelle or her agents would be worried about.

All good stuff and she looks a million dollars.

Thanks for link Juliet. It has certainly brightened up my day while I struggle with my VAT return.