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Chanelle Appreciation Thread (Part 4)
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Originally Posted by Hellzapoppin:
“I think Zach was wary of Gerry, I remember a convo Zach & Chan had in the bathroom about sleeping arrangements as they were on a break & Zach was in the single bed & Chan was sharing the double with Gerry. Chan had complained that Gerry was a fidget in bed & Zach looked at Chan and asked her if Gerry had an ere.tion when he woke in the mornings, Chan looked astonished & said he better bloody not have.”
“I think Zach was wary of Gerry, I remember a convo Zach & Chan had in the bathroom about sleeping arrangements as they were on a break & Zach was in the single bed & Chan was sharing the double with Gerry. Chan had complained that Gerry was a fidget in bed & Zach looked at Chan and asked her if Gerry had an ere.tion when he woke in the mornings, Chan looked astonished & said he better bloody not have.”
Ziggy (can't call him Zach, I don't know him as well as Chanelle
) was yet again living in the Paranoia Hotel, here.Chanelle says Gerry's a fidget and Ziggy manages to translate that into "Gerry's rubbing his c*ck on my ex !"
The next bit is priceless.
Ziggy knows (or should know given he's 26) that unless Gerry has erectile dysfunction he will automatically have several erections during his sleep. And it's very common to wake up with one
.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturn...ile_tumescence
Chanelle's reaction perhaps betrays some näiveté.
Gerry can no more "stop" himself having a morning erection, than Chanelle could stop herself menstruating at will.
Originally Posted by Norvik_1602:
“Ziggy (can't call him Zach, I don't know him as well as Chanelle) was yet again living in the Paranoia Hotel, here.
Chanelle says Gerry's a fidget and Ziggy manages to translate that into "Gerry's rubbing his c*ck on my ex !"
The next bit is priceless.
Ziggy knows (or should know given he's 26) that unless Gerry has erectile dysfunction he will automatically have several erections during his sleep. And it's very common to wake up with one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturn...ile_tumescence
Chanelle's reaction perhaps betrays some näiveté.
Gerry can no more "stop" himself having a morning erection, than Chanelle could stop herself menstruating at will.”
“Ziggy (can't call him Zach, I don't know him as well as Chanelle
) was yet again living in the Paranoia Hotel, here.Chanelle says Gerry's a fidget and Ziggy manages to translate that into "Gerry's rubbing his c*ck on my ex !"
The next bit is priceless.
Ziggy knows (or should know given he's 26) that unless Gerry has erectile dysfunction he will automatically have several erections during his sleep. And it's very common to wake up with one
.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocturn...ile_tumescence
Chanelle's reaction perhaps betrays some näiveté.
Gerry can no more "stop" himself having a morning erection, than Chanelle could stop herself menstruating at will.”
I was going to respond to this post with the "Clitoral Hood" link from Wikipedia, but it is a little graphic for this modest forum.
I don't know why but it seemed relevant in my head.
Originally Posted by [[Thanatos]]:
“It's nearly the weekend there will be all sort of rumours flying about.”
“It's nearly the weekend there will be all sort of rumours flying about.
”
What do we reckon the Sunday people will go with for their 4th
Chiggy breakup story in a row?'Ziggys shags female fans after a PA in nightclub.'
'Chanelle hooks up with ex Ryan & Spencer in 3some after charity footy'
'Chan's parents tell her to dump Ziggy cos he's jewish'
Suppose they could go with all 3!
Originally Posted by Fortune Cookie:
“What do we reckon the Sunday people will go with for their 4th Chiggy breakup story in a row?
'Ziggys shags female fans after a PA in nightclub.'
'Chanelle hooks up with ex Ryan & Spencer in 3some after charity footy'
'Chan's parents tell her to dump Ziggy cos he's jewish'
Suppose they could go with all 3!”
“What do we reckon the Sunday people will go with for their 4th
Chiggy breakup story in a row?'Ziggys shags female fans after a PA in nightclub.'
'Chanelle hooks up with ex Ryan & Spencer in 3some after charity footy'
'Chan's parents tell her to dump Ziggy cos he's jewish'
Suppose they could go with all 3!
”
Or ask for photographic evidence to prove he is.
Originally Posted by [[Thanatos]]:
“Maybe they've just had enough.”
“Maybe they've just had enough.
”
Hi Dja.
They are having probs all over the threads.
Originally Posted by chelleyross:
“Im here”
“Im here
”
Hi chelleyross.
Originally Posted by [[Thanatos]]:
“I was going to respond to this post with the "Clitoral Hood" link from Wikipedia, but it is a little graphic for this modest forum.
I don't know why but it seemed relevant in my head.”
“I was going to respond to this post with the "Clitoral Hood" link from Wikipedia, but it is a little graphic for this modest forum.
I don't know why but it seemed relevant in my head.
”
Hi Dja.
Maybe that's why Ziggy kept his Hood on, no better not go there.
Originally Posted by [[Thanatos]]:
“Well that's killed it.”
“Well that's killed it.
”
Evening Thanatos. Have you scared everyone off?
Just back from my fish and chip supper at which . . wait for it . . . I was given my first Christmas present
Not surprisingly this caught me out a bit. I tried "I forgot to bring yours with me!" and "I didn't know what to get you!" but they both sounded a bit hollow to be frank.
Originally Posted by Norvik_1602:
“A few observations.
I guess you're probably older than me. I'd like to think I still am a "young" person !
I don't think any of the good moral character traits you describe, eg. self-examination, (something the "it" creature could do with months of), are necessarily religiously derived.
Quite to the contrary in fact. I was raised as a child, as a Roman Catholic, but more for social reasons than anything else.
I remember in my French language classes reading how a lot of French people described themselves as "Roman Catholic : non-practising" and thinking "Why don't I have that option in Southern Ireland ?"
I could now probably be best described as a "militant atheist", a big fan of Richard Dawkins etc. My morals are not religiously based but based on thought, reason, humanity, the collective historical struggle to make our world a fairer, more just (in all senses) and kinder world.
I consider things like the British civil service code - honest, non-party political, promotion by merit, selection by open examination etc - to be the real moral pillars.
Most of what we consider to be basic fundamental human rights & democratic rights & judicial principles have been achieved in the last 100 to 150 years, by generations of statesmen who valued reason above religious dogma.
For example, voting in parliamentary elections has only been in secret since the Secret Ballot Act of 1872.
The world's religions are silent on these issues and have always backed the (dictatorial) status quo to the detriment of the great mass of humanity.
There's a big problem with ascribing membership of any denomination / section of the C of E etc based on how Chanelle dressed or undressed, or how often she said f*ck, or her lack or otherwise of "inhibitions", (read: sexual hang-ups) with Ziggy.
It's that these things are only "immoral" if one believes them to be so. You might say, for example, that Chanelle was not a moral girl should she have exposed her nipples.
But, if Chanelle wasn't bothered, rightly thinking there's nothing immoral with the human body, any part of it, even on TV, then you can't say she's not a good, say, C of E girl because in her mind she is ! I didn't mind the f*cks uttered by Chanelle one little bit.
It was nearly always said comically, and again not against Chanelle's own moral code, the only one that matters in determining her "morality".
Chanelle was never vulgar in her use of the f-word but she did apologise to the "it" creature for calling her a "scruffy little slut", because she felt that she had descended to the "it" creature's level.
My own guess as to how she was raised, ie her official denomination growing up, is she might be RC as the name Hayes can sometimes indicate Irish ancestry, although that doesn't guarantee a RC denomination. A post a while ago referred to people meeting her parents in "church", not "chapel" so this might suggest high/broad C of E or RC, probably not non-conformist.”
“A few observations.
I guess you're probably older than me. I'd like to think I still am a "young" person !
I don't think any of the good moral character traits you describe, eg. self-examination, (something the "it" creature could do with months of), are necessarily religiously derived.
Quite to the contrary in fact. I was raised as a child, as a Roman Catholic, but more for social reasons than anything else.
I remember in my French language classes reading how a lot of French people described themselves as "Roman Catholic : non-practising" and thinking "Why don't I have that option in Southern Ireland ?"
I could now probably be best described as a "militant atheist", a big fan of Richard Dawkins etc. My morals are not religiously based but based on thought, reason, humanity, the collective historical struggle to make our world a fairer, more just (in all senses) and kinder world.
I consider things like the British civil service code - honest, non-party political, promotion by merit, selection by open examination etc - to be the real moral pillars.
Most of what we consider to be basic fundamental human rights & democratic rights & judicial principles have been achieved in the last 100 to 150 years, by generations of statesmen who valued reason above religious dogma.
For example, voting in parliamentary elections has only been in secret since the Secret Ballot Act of 1872.
The world's religions are silent on these issues and have always backed the (dictatorial) status quo to the detriment of the great mass of humanity.
There's a big problem with ascribing membership of any denomination / section of the C of E etc based on how Chanelle dressed or undressed, or how often she said f*ck, or her lack or otherwise of "inhibitions", (read: sexual hang-ups) with Ziggy.
It's that these things are only "immoral" if one believes them to be so. You might say, for example, that Chanelle was not a moral girl should she have exposed her nipples.
But, if Chanelle wasn't bothered, rightly thinking there's nothing immoral with the human body, any part of it, even on TV, then you can't say she's not a good, say, C of E girl because in her mind she is ! I didn't mind the f*cks uttered by Chanelle one little bit.
It was nearly always said comically, and again not against Chanelle's own moral code, the only one that matters in determining her "morality".
Chanelle was never vulgar in her use of the f-word but she did apologise to the "it" creature for calling her a "scruffy little slut", because she felt that she had descended to the "it" creature's level.
My own guess as to how she was raised, ie her official denomination growing up, is she might be RC as the name Hayes can sometimes indicate Irish ancestry, although that doesn't guarantee a RC denomination. A post a while ago referred to people meeting her parents in "church", not "chapel" so this might suggest high/broad C of E or RC, probably not non-conformist.”
There are some interesting observations in what you say Norvic.
I was trying not to be hooked on the idea that all morals must come from one, or any religion which is why I used the words 'religious and moral values'. It does of course become over complex to make such a distinction in every other sentence.
I was brought up within what was described as 'high church' Cof E - high to the point of being mistaken for RC. However moving within the UK I've encountered many Cof E variants, various strands of the C of Scot and numerous non-comformist believers. I 've also had need of familiarity with numerous non mainstrem 'sects' and some non - christian based faiths. I think perhaps my age is only relevent in allowing that range of experiences.
There are of course some 'religious' (rel.. in broadest terms) beliefs that hold heavilly on one or two quite rigid tennets that virtually absolve (or deny) the believer personal choice/decisions. Those are clearly not applicable here. As I said, several non-comformist beliefs tend to be quite rigid in relation to some conduct, modesty, sexual propriety,drinking for example and seemed unlikely to apply. However, I was not seeking to ascribe membership of any church to Chanelle or to judge her - only to try to identify a source consistent with her apparent moral base/behaviour. I was aware of the remark about her parents at church as distinct from chapel, citidal, terms often used loosely.
I will resist entering into discussion about your apparent assumption that relogously based morals are not based on thought, reason, humanity etc. I can't accept things such as the Civil Service Code as equating to a religion or basis of morality for life, or a moral code itself. There are dozens of such codes for doctors, military, police, etc. All drawn up to regulate an organisation/ profession and those who work within it - the fact of regard for the client/user of the service is incidental to directing the objective of the organisation - not the morality of employees in their personal lives. To try to suggest such codes determine morality in any way is to confuse 'God and Mamon' using biblical terms.
I was in no way being critical of Chanelle's behavior but considering it relative to the broad beliefs/expectations of various 'religions / sects'. The results, conflicting and inconclusive. However she evidently recognises consistent boundaries to an extent unusual to 19yo in my experience. I reiterate my belief that the moral basis on which she appears to live has in my opinion been a considered decision - not simply a matter of drift and personal convenience. That is very mature - and remember in BBH she was often said to be immature.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebri...007/7/general/
back in early Aug it was rumoured Chan would have a record, I wonder if anythng will ever come of it. Its reported back in Hello aug 3rd.
back in early Aug it was rumoured Chan would have a record, I wonder if anythng will ever come of it. Its reported back in Hello aug 3rd.
I've been catching up for the last hour, and i didn't notice a go slow.
Interesting that Chantelle is now with Neon, although with a different representative to Chanelle.
Hope the person who types up press releases etc doesn't make any slip ups, or there could be confusion.
Interesting that Chantelle is now with Neon, although with a different representative to Chanelle.
Hope the person who types up press releases etc doesn't make any slip ups, or there could be confusion.
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I found this on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_ring
Under the section Post-wedding Customs
"Jewish couples wear the wedding ring on the left hand, even though it is placed on the right hand during the marriage ceremony."
Although Ziggy & Chanelle would be a mixed marriage, not a purely Jewish one. His sect of Judaism is I think is "British Reform". I think if he wanted a Rabbi to officiate at a wedding ceremony they'd have to promise to raise any children as Jews and "keep a jewish house". Then again Chanelle may have her own views on this !
Originally Posted by jacko12:
“Yes that's what I was thinking and anyone else find it a bit strange Chanelle showing off a ring when it's on the wrong hand
[ QUOTE]
Dont know if its true maybe some one can enlighten me,
Do Jews wear their wedding rings on the right hand ,so Ive
just been told,I know the Germans do”
“Yes that's what I was thinking and anyone else find it a bit strange Chanelle showing off a ring when it's on the wrong hand
[ QUOTE]Dont know if its true maybe some one can enlighten me,
Do Jews wear their wedding rings on the right hand ,so Ive
just been told,I know the Germans do”
I found this on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_ring
Under the section Post-wedding Customs
"Jewish couples wear the wedding ring on the left hand, even though it is placed on the right hand during the marriage ceremony."
Although Ziggy & Chanelle would be a mixed marriage, not a purely Jewish one. His sect of Judaism is I think is "British Reform". I think if he wanted a Rabbi to officiate at a wedding ceremony they'd have to promise to raise any children as Jews and "keep a jewish house". Then again Chanelle may have her own views on this !
Originally Posted by [[Thanatos]]:
“I was going to respond to this post with the "Clitoral Hood" link from Wikipedia, but it is a little graphic for this modest forum.
I don't know why but it seemed relevant in my head.”
“I was going to respond to this post with the "Clitoral Hood" link from Wikipedia, but it is a little graphic for this modest forum.
I don't know why but it seemed relevant in my head.
”
We really are getting desperate when we can only discuss our bits!
By the way, is your belly button and inny or an outey?
Originally Posted by Juliet Capulet:
“New pics, click on the main one
http://www.smartpictures.co.uk/”
“New pics, click on the main one
http://www.smartpictures.co.uk/”
did she have the ring while she was touching his leg
Originally Posted by myk:
“We really are getting desperate when we can only discuss our bits!
By the way, is your belly button and inny or an outey?”
“We really are getting desperate when we can only discuss our bits!
By the way, is your belly button and inny or an outey?
”
It's a inny, does it signify something.
Originally Posted by cringe!:
“http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebri...007/7/general/
back in early Aug it was rumoured Chan would have a record, I wonder if anythng will ever come of it. Its reported back in Hello aug 3rd.”
“http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebri...007/7/general/
back in early Aug it was rumoured Chan would have a record, I wonder if anythng will ever come of it. Its reported back in Hello aug 3rd.”
I think that would be one of the most difficult career paths for her to pursue TBH. It would be hard for her to be taken seriously in the music industry being an ex-BB contestant, particularly now after the twins. And I think she'd want to be taken seriously.
If I was their agent, I think I'd be pushing Chiggy to do a duet though.
Originally Posted by wheelieman:
“did she have the ring while she was touching his leg”
“did she have the ring while she was touching his leg”
I've answered this on another thread. She did have the ring on but it was on the other hand, the right hand. It's not an engagement ring.
Originally Posted by Remaha:
“I think that would be one of the most difficult career paths for her to pursue TBH. It would be hard for her to be taken seriously in the music industry being an ex-BB contestant, particularly now after the twins. And I think she'd want to be taken seriously.
If I was their agent, I think I'd be pushing Chiggy to do a duet though.”
“I think that would be one of the most difficult career paths for her to pursue TBH. It would be hard for her to be taken seriously in the music industry being an ex-BB contestant, particularly now after the twins. And I think she'd want to be taken seriously.
If I was their agent, I think I'd be pushing Chiggy to do a duet though.”
Islands In The Stream.
Originally Posted by myk:
“I couldn't make out all the detail of the ring but it looked to me like a heart. Wonder if Ziggy surprised her and bought it alone or if Chan had a hand in it.
Hope it is a heart shape -- verrrrrrrry expensive - and that he surprised her with it. [
I](cue Juliette)[/i] Ahhhhhhhhhh”
“I couldn't make out all the detail of the ring but it looked to me like a heart. Wonder if Ziggy surprised her and bought it alone or if Chan had a hand in it.
Hope it is a heart shape -- verrrrrrrry expensive - and that he surprised her with it. [
I](cue Juliette)[/i] Ahhhhhhhhhh
”
I have just checked the Now photoshoot and can at least confirm that she didn't half-inch it, so to speak.
Just to keep you guys a wake this link takes you to the Twins Barbie Girl video - amusing in small doses.
Can imagine this being used repeatedly by BB next year instead of Agadoo. Pure torture by the 25th repeat I predict.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgcK1...ws%5Fid%3D3984
Can imagine this being used repeatedly by BB next year instead of Agadoo. Pure torture by the 25th repeat I predict.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgcK1...ws%5Fid%3D3984
Originally Posted by myk:
“Just to keep you guys a wake this link takes you to the Twins Barbie Girl video - amusing in small doses.
Can imagine this being used repeatedly by BB next year instead of Agadoo. Pure torture by the 25th repeat I predict.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgcK1...ws%5Fid%3D3984”
“Just to keep you guys a wake this link takes you to the Twins Barbie Girl video - amusing in small doses.
Can imagine this being used repeatedly by BB next year instead of Agadoo. Pure torture by the 25th repeat I predict.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgcK1...ws%5Fid%3D3984”
I'm going to stand outside record shops and shoot anyone that buys that.
Originally Posted by [[Thanatos]]:
“It's a inny, does it signify something.”
“It's a inny, does it signify something.
”
Of course it does -you can get more fluff in it!
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