Love the way you cover your back there Thanatos

And yet another one.

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1227712805

http://brightcove.vo.llnwd.net/d4/un...162e36d65e.flv

I don't want to harp back but in reference to Zak's opinions on Char and this interview in Ireland; Zak, I think, saw Char as good media fame potential for outside the house (hence his asking her out for a drink after) while he was inside the BB house but once outside he has seen that she isn't really up to much. Zak even talked about this in the Irish interview. Most of the Housemates IMO thought that Char would be popular as previous BB (Jade Goodie) contestants have found fame by sparking trouble. Zak, I think is attracted by successful women or women that show obvious signs of success. As an ex-celeb himself and "producer" he would have been choosing (in his mind) those HMs that he thought had most potential for success on the outside as friends in the house and to keep in touch with on the outside. Cynical I know, an aspect of Zak's character I think though.

Yes, but we don't know how many time's Zigster has cuddled up to Chanelle in her bed, in her flat and said those 3 words.

"This ain't working"

Obviously only to wake up and say as only he(and maybe Cliff Richard) can.... "It's all cool, you know. Simple As".

I'd agree with that to an extent. Even when both Char and Chan left they were all convinced that Char would be the one out there doing the photoshoots etc whilst Chan was on her murder mystery weekend

I was talking more in relation to Zac seeing Chan as being rather dramatic about the whole Char/Chan situation, as though most of it was all in Chan's head , as opposed to just keeping Char onside.
Whether this was just Zac's way of being able to convince himself that he wasn't looking stupid in declaring that Char wasn't that bad, is also an option.

Anyhow, the 'head of out of her @rse' comment is a good sign

Well I do think the house is a unnatural environment and magnifies your insecurities so you have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Plus he'd be a mug to give up a little darling like Chanelle.

Of course he would Plus I'm sure whilst he's away doing these PA's away from her, he reminds himself with a copy of Nuts what the deal with Chan is

PMSL twice in one day we agree.
One thing from the rte show I hadn't realised that through out the full BB show he was taking 8 pills a day for a stomache complaint.

I personally was thinking that about Char inside the house from day one .

I just wonder whether Zak would be as interested in Chan if she wasn't so successful on the outside? If Chan were to go back to college would Zak just hop onto the next successful good looking model that came along. I know I'm harping on the negative but just a nagging thought .

Between him and Chanelle they cornered the market in mystery illnesses.
Just another piece of evidence in my case for Ziggy adopting the female role in the relationship.

wouldn't be you if you wern't being negative about him.

well he didnt know chan was successful when he made his exit from the house and he was desperate to make up to her ,i'm sure whatever she was doing he'd have become besotted with her.

OK than I will balance it by saying that Zak did well in the interview in Ireland. He seemed pretty sincere in his positive comments about Chan . There was little chemistry between him and Carole on the sofa there. The more it went on the more they seemed to argue or Zak would cut her off. I would only argue as to why the joint interview in the first place? I expect that Programme producers insist on these things or Zak may not have got on TV at all. The interviewers knew there was some previous between the two which would make for some entertaining friction for viewers and I imagine Carole was a cheap addition.

Zak came across a very alert and sensitive to his relationship to Chanelle (which is obviously quite real) . Zak needs to have words with DL his agent so that DL is singing from the same song-sheet also IMO (after recent comments/photos in his Pap. blog).

Zak knew before because Chan made it clear from her re-entry a week earlier (re; dress and business card etc.)

Not sure

He does like successful women, but that doesn't necessarily mean only the type of 'successful' as perceived by the media.
We also know that he sees Chan as being more talented than a glamour girl type stereotype, but then on the other side of the coin he did try and further that side of Chan's talent in the house with hopes of enticing her into the studio etc. Chan once said that she was ambitious but her ambitions were of a different type, so he's well aware that fame may not always be in Chan's plans for the future if she decides she wants to go back to Uni for example.

Basically I guess we may never know the answer to that question unless it were to actually happen.

I don't think Ziggy would be that comfortable with his girlfriend being an object of desire.

I have those dark thoughts about him frequently. I just don't trust this guy to be 100% committed after all the complaints he aired in the house about her character, her topics of conversation, her immaturity, her sharp comments, her age, and so on. None of these things stop me from liking Chanelle a lot; however, they must have really bothered him, or he wouldn't have kept buttonholing the housemates to complain about them.

I feel fairly convinced that he will stick around as long as the "celebrity" angle is there, as intimated by that one friend on facebook and other unnamed friends in the press, because success and attention mean a lot to Ziggy.

I know as Chanelle appreciators we're supposed to be looking forward, not back, but I've learned through a couple decades of experience that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

I will be delighted, of course, if I turn out to be wrong and things are great with Chiggy after the attention fades, and/or Chanelle resumes her studies.

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Zac would want his cake and to eat it in that case.

I think he liked the idea of new men coming into the house for example and fancying Chan, but when it became too close for comfort with the Billi-BS-non-existent-love-triangle he didn't like it.

I remember one of the Heat pictures of them together and Zac looks like he's saying look all you want but don't touch I'd also imagine that if the roles were reversed in those PA pics of Zac and it was Chan with men it would be a different story I think he'd take non to kindly to that.

There was a comment however that came from Zac in the caravan conversation with Brian after Chan left which was interesting. He said that he hated the thought of other people looking at her. But I think that may have been because he couldn't as he was still in the house and wasn't sure whether there was a chance of them getting back together again. Therefore she wasn't his at the moment and there would be men looking at her, but he had no control over it.

I think it depends on how he deals with male attention when they're out together. I'd imagine because of what women are like they don't hold back when Chan is there, whereas men wouldn't go near Chan if Zac were. Therefore I'd imagine he loves the female attention himself, but if Chan were receiving the male attention on the same scale it would be a different story

Thank you a nice read. Believe me I have sometimes doubted Ziggy's intentions.But as you know I give him an A+ on his commitment towards Chanelle since leaving the house but if he errs I will be the first to jump on him.
I agree about DL comments and am trying to get hold of Ziggy's pa's e-mail to voice my conerns over these comments. I would hope he does have words with DL.

Yes, and after all this is what the BB stuff is all about for Ziggy, why he went in there in the first place. We will see what happens.

All is apparently good at present between the two, which is good for Chan. I will be delighted too if it turns out to be the long term relationship that everybody hopes .

Thanks The first two aren't Chan or I'm doing something wrong

i saw that clip, think voodoo posted it but missed the earlier bit of the clip so didnt actucally know he was refering to chanelle- what else was he saying to brian before?

but he had this convo with Brian about how much he wanted to see her Before she came back to visit

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DqpwMSbJgDg

and this one with Jonty

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=obTwyw0TEro

Just before that clip Zac and Bri head to the caravan. When Zac says "you know what I mean though" it implies there was an earlier conversation, however Bri actually gets the wrong end of the stick as to what Zac was talking about and starts to talk about something different So we'll never know