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Ziggy appreciation thread (Part 3)
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c l a i r e
13-11-2007
See Ziggys myspace has been updated a bit - nice to see suuport for him. I would imagine he is going to be popular with the ladies!
Cathy S
13-11-2007
Ziggy or someone is updating his myspace
Taffycwmru
13-11-2007
There is a poster on the Chanelle Hits Back thread who claims to have witnessed Chanelle's behaviour first hand. He's a journalist and used to write for the Star. He wasn't in Dubai but knows reporters who were and from what they tell him Ziggy was speaking the truth.

I know we can't take this poster's words as gospel, after all, who knows who anyone really is on here, but he seems to know what he is talking about.
janpox
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by c l a i r e:
“You know something guys, after reading some of the sh*te that has been posted on this forum for the past few days and reading both interviews today I am more resolute than ever in my support for Ziggy. It is actually quite frightening that people can overlook whats been said at the heart of a story and blame one party for everything. However the consoling thing is that this forum is tiny in the grand scheme of things and I'm pretty sure that most people reading heat today will understand what really happened.

Whether or not he will continue to pursue a public career is down to him I guess, but I really really hope so and I hope that he can begin to build a career for himself in whatever he wants to do. He will certainly have my support for him in whatever he chooses to do (btw how much is a return flight to brazil)

I know full well that Ziggy has many many flaws and sometimes watching him in the house I wanted to pick him up and shake him, but give me someone with real live flaws rather than idolising supposed perfection. One thing I've learned in life is that if you put someone on a pedestal then your sure to be disappointed somewhere down the line cause ain't no one of us is perfect (despite what some threads on here would have you believe) but underneath I think he is a sincere and good guy. One day (who knows maybe in a years time, maybe 5 years or maybe tomorrow) he will meet someone who he can set up a life with and be settled and happy. I really hope that good things come for him. Just remember Ziggy whatever doesn't kill you can only make you stronger

In the mean time I hope he gets out there and has fun with who ever he wants to have fun with.

BTW (do you think 34 is too old an older woman)”

well i read your post while listening to leona lewis and my eyes welled up i just cant believe whats happened and im very sorry for both of them
anyway are the next dvds ready yet does anyone know
christel
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by Taffycwmru:
“There is a poster on the Chanelle Hits Back thread who claims to have witnessed Chanelle's behaviour first hand. He's a journalist and used to write for the Star. He wasn't in Dubai but knows reporters who were and from what they tell him Ziggy was speaking the truth.

I know we can't take this poster's words as gospel, after all, who knows who anyone really is on here, but he seems to know what he is talking about.”

Having read it I am convinced by what he says, it was too insightful for somebody making it up. still dont think it would be convincing enough for the worshippers though
Zigesa
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by Cathy S:
“Ziggy or someone is updating his myspace”

ah bless him, my message is on there 2nd one down. god I love that pic of him walking down the stairs! HOT

Anyway I have only read through all the posts today because of time restrictions, but all I want to say is well done everyone. I have read some really great posts today, all making lots of sense. If I wasnt so lazy I would go and multiquote them, but seeing as there were so many good ones it will take ages, so I will say again, WELL DONE!!

The heat article made me so sad. I found it very emotional and believed every word. Such a sad looking zig on the front cover. I had it in my basket in Waitrose and felt like telling the whole store, "see this man here?, well me and loads of others on our wonderful DS ZAT absolutely support him 100% and we think he is great!!" I didnt obviously but I wanted to.

And let me tell you all, I am 36, so only ten years older so I am most definitely in the queue! (sorry hubby!) just a little time spent with him, pllleeeaasssee!!

Anyway, well done again. xx
May Blossom
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by Taffycwmru:
“There is a poster on the Chanelle Hits Back thread who claims to have witnessed Chanelle's behaviour first hand. He's a journalist and used to write for the Star. He wasn't in Dubai but knows reporters who were and from what they tell him Ziggy was speaking the truth.

I know we can't take this poster's words as gospel, after all, who knows who anyone really is on here, but he seems to know what he is talking about.”

Interesting to see what DS do at end of 6 month contract. They will continue to support her now as they have a calendar to sell. I suppose Gemma Atkinson (I think that is her name) in IACGMOH is going to be the very much more in demand in new year.

MB
c l a i r e
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by May Blossom:
“Interesting to see what DS do at end of 6 month contract. They will continue to support her now as they have a calendar to sell. I suppose Gemma Atkinson (I think that is her name) in IACGMOH is going to be the very much more in demand in new year.

MB”

Was going to post something but in danger of being kicked off before I've even settled in here so I'll keep my mouth shut
havergal
13-11-2007
Just picking up on a few points from above posts.
Nobody seems to deny the abuse.
If I have this right - the NOTW stuff is true. The DS / OK people know it and printed it in DS as its too good a story not to
They had an alternative anti-Ziggy story to tell based on what Chanelle said and were presumably keeping it until there was a break-up.
As Ziggy finished with Chanelle last week he perhaps knew that this might be the story they ran with - or may have thought that they would if Chanelle told the papers she was dumped. So he went to Heat and NOTW to get in first.
I agree that putting it out there was to protect himself and also to put an end to the relationship once and for all - to make sure he didn't weaken. Much as Pete did last year
I agree that Ziggy has looked very uncomfortable in photos with Chanelle - I think he always has done - the nice photos are the ones were he is with other people - but I'm not an avid fan and haven't studied them all so may be wrong
I do recall however that the night of the make-up launch that a fashion reporter said that Chanelle looked po-faced - Ziggy looked happy chatting up page 3 girls!!

The writing has been on the wall for some time IMO - the most telling him I saw him say was that when things were good they were great - which meant that sometimes things weren't good. I think he said it more than once but it might just have been a re-used quote.

His interview expressing doubts, saying it was make or break time, wasn't engaged etc was interesting and I thought very honest and truthful - he clearly wasn't happy about various things and suggested to me that he was also concerned about Chanelle and her agent - the boob job for example.
savethecheerlea
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by havergal:
“Just picking up on a few points from above posts.
Nobody seems to deny the abuse.
If I have this right - the NOTW stuff is true. The DS / OK people know it and printed it in DS as its too good a story not to
They had an alternative anti-Ziggy story to tell based on what Chanelle said and were presumably keeping it until there was a break-up.
As Ziggy finished with Chanelle last week he perhaps knew that this might be the story they ran with - or may have thought that they would if Chanelle told the papers she was dumped. So he went to Heat and NOTW to get in first.
I agree that putting it out there was to protect himself and also to put an end to the relationship once and for all - to make sure he didn't weaken. Much as Pete did last year
I agree that Ziggy has looked very uncomfortable in photos with Chanelle - I think he always has done - the nice photos are the ones were he is with other people - but I'm not an avid fan and haven't studied them all so may be wrong
I do recall however that the night of the make-up launch that a fashion reporter said that Chanelle looked po-faced - Ziggy looked happy chatting up page 3 girls!!

The writing has been on the wall for some time IMO - the most telling him I saw him say was that when things were good they were great - which meant that sometimes things weren't good. I think he said it more than once but it might just have been a re-used quote.

His interview expressing doubts, saying it was make or break time, wasn't engaged etc was interesting and I thought very honest and truthful - he clearly wasn't happy about various things and suggested to me that he was also concerned about Chanelle and her agent - the boob job for example.”

TBH I think it was a case of chanelle telling him if he broke up with her that she would go to the press and say he done this and that (she bluffed e thought she would and he went for it) He done the story.I still maintain if chanelle had went to the paper people would still be loving her and sticking up for her.
havergal
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by savethecheerlea:
“TBH I think it was a case of chanelle telling him if he broke up with her that she would go to the press and say he done this and that (she bluffed e thought she would and he went for it) He done the story.I still maintain if chanelle had went to the paper people would still be loving her and sticking up for her.”

If they believed her story then yes they might have done which I assume is why Ziggy felt it necessary to get in first with what does, increasingly, seem to me to be the truth.
Drummer matt seems to know what he's talking about - he knows 6 journalists who were in Dubai - he says - and they confirm what Ziggy has said and he says that he has witnessed her being a diva. Plus I remember a journalist / photographer who was assigned to Chanelle when she first came out of the house saying that she was a nightmare to work with with her diva-like behaviour
May Blossom
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by savethecheerlea:
“TBH I think it was a case of chanelle telling him if he broke up with her that she would go to the press and say he done this and that (she bluffed e thought she would and he went for it) He done the story.I still maintain if chanelle had went to the paper people would still be loving her and sticking up for her.”

Of course they would. Many are still not accepting she has any issues. All totally bizarre. Lets face it he is being called everything for doing a kiss & tell it would be far worse if he as being called a girl friend beater / cheat.

MB
savethecheerlea
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by May Blossom:
“Of course they would. Many are still not accepting she has any issues. All totally bizarre. Lets face it he is being called everything for doing a kiss & tell it would be far worse if he as being called a girl friend beater / cheat.

MB”

TBH i think some people have him on the same platform as a rapist or a mass killer tbh.
havergal
13-11-2007
See this is what I don't get - why do people think that someone they saw on BB is perfect. We're not perfect why should they be. Why cannot they assess the info and decide whether something is right or not.

I'm pretty neutral in all this - not a great Ziggy fan, nor a Chiggy fan and not a Chanelle fan. I've followed their story through the threads here out of boredom at work. This is the first day I've posted because this story interests me - and I wanted to know more. Now I do have more facts I think I can understand what's happening. Others seem to have their judgement clouded by what they assume - Chanelle must love Ziggy, Ziggy must be paranoid. etc. etc Its ridiculous
quin13
13-11-2007
Evening all

Just got in, now feeling a lot better taking the dog out and seeing a friend done me the world of good.

Now going back to catch up,

Oh s**t I forgot it's my mum's and dad's anniversary today, with all that has happened today I forgot, I better go and find the card I brought I know I'v got it
big bruvver
13-11-2007
Evening
sorry for interupting, I would just like to award Cristel A medal for her tireless work out there against the most unbelievable drivel I have ever read in her support for Ziggy
round of applause

best wishes to you xx
boobee
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by savethecheerlea:
“vote ziggy as favourite housemate and sexiest

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother/partyvote/”


Done - and dusted !!
scout2006
13-11-2007
I'll bet you've all had a hard time in here today. Nice to see you haven't all given up the good fight

I'm not sure how you all feel but I wish Ziggy had just done the Heat interview Whoever advised him to do the NOTW aswell and allowed it to get quite so graphic should be shot.
scout2006
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by savethecheerlea:
“TBH i think some people have him on the same platform as a rapist or a mass killer tbh.”


Don't worry, they could hate him as much as Heather Mills
saskiatowin
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by savethecheerlea:
“thank you SASKIA”

Originally Posted by zitm:
“Thanks I am glad someone can do this for us Will you please post link tomorrow ”

Originally Posted by runner:
“Yes!!!..Thank you so much

I hate not having sky one”

Originally Posted by C_K_07:
“yeah.

Thank you sakiatowin. Don't suppose you could post the link to your chanelle aswell”



Brian, Amanda, Sam & Ziggy @ Cirque De Celebrité
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP6c3jS7-dU

Liam McGough on Cirque De Celebrité Week 6!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS9jtXOpYCE
Zigesa
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by boobee:
“Done - and dusted !! ”

seconded!!
boobee
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by big bruvver:
“Evening
sorry for interupting, I would just like to award Cristel A medal for her tireless work out there against the most unbelievable drivel I have ever read in her support for Ziggy
round of applause

best wishes to you xx”


Three Cheers for Cristel ..*cheer*, *cheer* * cheer*


Well done Cristel
ellene
13-11-2007
Thanks to everyone who flew the flag today, I've read Heat & it is heartbreakingly sad but sometimes the best decisions we make for ourselves are the hardest ones to make in the first place. Part of me wishes though that the content of the texts was published & it was a thing I criticised Channelle for as well but that's just me

My DVDs arrived today so it's going to be a bit strange watching parts of it after recent events but hey it's got Ziggy & they're the most important parts.

The one thing I find hardest to understand is how some people on the threads wo seemed to me to be good friends with each other have split so decisively & some posts are but I won't say anymore & bite my tongue
May Blossom
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by savethecheerlea:
“TBH i think some people have him on the same platform as a rapist or a mass killer tbh.”

The issue is not actually a few Chanelle fanatics on a site like this. It would be a much bigger issue if he was outed as violent in terms of the wider public.

MB
Zigesa
13-11-2007
Originally Posted by boobee:
“Three Cheers for Cristel ..*cheer*, *cheer* * cheer*


Well done Cristel ”

hip hip horray!!!
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