gosh I was crying when he put himself up to go to HWH, my son turned around to me and said 'why are you crying' to which I replied 'its just so sad', he smiled and said - its just a television programne'. To me it was a lot more than that - I was drawn in hook line and zinker and believe it or not I still havent pulled myself out

No neither have I - the office is a tip and still very little gets done.

*shakes me finger* shame on him

Well wont be back on tonight.I am knackered.Didn't sleep properly last night.

Night night talk tomorrow everyone

**waves banner so high it nearly falls **

could I please have the link for HP zig website. Thanks

Night all I am going as well. I didnt sleep properly last night either but I think we have weathered the storm okay.

TBH I don't think any of us have. He looked so happy when Liam came across & the DR part when Brian & Liam went in to talk about him going to HWH & bringing in stuff he might need. I think we got our answer abou how vital he was to them even as a figure of hate when we got almost continued coverage of the HWH even before Laim went there

I agree with both of these. I was so so sad when he was over there. They definitely had to do something when Liam was put over there. you are right BBfan the two biggest characters were in there. the other house was boring then. I loved Liam and Zig together

we certainly havent have we. If we had off let it go we wouldnt still be on here appreciating zigs

Hi all Just been catching up

I've read both articles, and I'm a bit and a bit

Here goes, my two pennith

Chanelle's interview just gives me the shivers, it's so cold and calculating. At the end of it they ask her if she actually fancies Ziggy and she say's "yeah, i think he's really attractive. I do think he looks better in the flesh than he does in magazines!"
I thought....what a horrible thing to say. I bet she gave him such a hard time over his photo's, seeing as posing for photo's is what she does best...that and making cold hard cash.

The whole article makes me feel sick tbh...I'm angry with her. It's designed to steer readers away from the truth of the matter which is that she's a nasty piece of work. She ruined her relationship with Ziggy because she was violent and abusive towards him. She hasn't disputed these claims although she's had ample opportunity to. This aggression probably all stems back to her childhood, but there should be no excuses for it, she should be penalized for her behaviour.

Ziggy's interview was from the heart and very emotional...a completely genuine account of what his life was like with her. I feel for him so much....he must have been in turmoil, not knowing which way to turn, not knowing what mood she would be in from one day to the next....a horrible situation.

I'm glad he's out of it. He's probably at home now relaxing properly for the first time in weeks. The whole business must of had him living on the edge. He's really a good man and I think he would have made her a lovely husband one day, but she's well and truely blown it! I hope for her sake that she gets some help now before she does anymore damage.

That's how I feel having read Ziggy's account in Heat magazine.

And I say that as someone who was not a fan or a supporter of Ziggy's during BB8 or during his time with Chanelle.

Here's what I posted on another thread. But I hope you don't mind me leaving it here as well.

Ziggy's Heat article is interesting.

Firstly he confirms what many of Chanelle's critics on this Board were saying about her whilst she was on BB8.

More importantly, he betrays the fact that he fears her. Yes, I don't for a moment believe that he was not primarily motivated by £££ in selling his story. But there's a lot more to it than that.

Ziggy suggests that he had to talk to the press first as he believes Chanelle was trying to set him up for some very unpleasant allegations. He feared that she was going to say that he hit her.

To quote, ' ... the writing was on the wall. In Dubai she threw a champagne bottle at me and then ran out of the room telling everyone that I had thrown it at her. It was like she was always trying to set me up. Once, during sex, she asked me to hit her & I had this feeling she would use it against me ...'

Having read Ziggy's full account, I have to say that it is very convincing. It all fits like a glove.

http://zacharylichmancouk.ipbfree.com/

Me too, her voice and laugh used to drive me insane, and I could not believe she lasted as long as she did.

I was quite fortunate in one respect, I was off work ill all summer, and wasn't sleeping much, so I would stay up until they (Chiggy) were tucked up in bed, and then get some sleep, but always managed to be up before the alarm went off.

My husband thought I was mad, he still does because of the time I spend on this computer, but I wouldn't have missed BB8 for the world.

I did a fair bit of crying that week-end between Sunday and Monday (i supported both of them in the house). But to see him so upset when Chanelle left was heartbreaking

Catching up



Thank you for all info, I did know how he is feeling it will get easier after time and he will come back a stronger person for it, I know I have.

Sorry to here that. Very true you don't know if you are coming or going and is good one min and not next, and you have not done anything wrong but in there eye you have. I do wish I got out of it much earllier than I did, for me it went on for 8 months and we were together for a year the first 4 months were great.

That was great, can we have some more of you're great work please C l a i r e.

Back off to do more catching up.

anybody got ziggys facebook address
please
love the coffee break i put it on myspace
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Evening all

Great post Meeowza which I agree with. I felt very sad reading Zig's interview in Heat and realising just what he went through Thank goodness he's away from her now and I hope he can now relax and start to enjoy life again

Glad to read that Zig being in Footloose has been confirmed in New magazine. I was worried that the report in The Sun may have been wrong.

Evening all - catching up after a manic day, almost up to speed now!

I really feel at long last that our unwaivering support for Ziggy is paying off. We haven't supported blindly, we've recognised and accepted his (minor) faults, and at last it seems as though the truth is emerging - and not necessarily from him

Drummer Matt sure seems to know what he's about - and Zig and DL must know that info is out there - but haven't used it, and won't I doubt unless they're pressed.

I think 'our boy done good'

He's in there as Ziggy Lichman with the same picture he has on myspace so use the search on lichman & it will come up as well as his brother & sister

Yeah, I agree Eddybee....

It all seems very sinister. It really looks like the money got the better of Chanelle in the end. Her management probably said that Ziggy's not photogenic/handsome enough for her and she needs a new model...trade him in.

Or that she needed to convince him to join her agent, or dump him. Or they thought her calender would sell better if she was single.

These things could have been plotted well in advance...even before Ziggy left the BB house.

So corrupt....

thanks ellene

If any of you missed DrummerMatt's posts earlier today, I suggest you search his latest posts, they make very interesting reading

Thanks Claire, I love your vids, I grinned all the way through Wouldn't it be good if ziggy used it on his myspace

had a nightmare trying to get on here earlier on, the site kept crashing on me and when i finally sorted it out on came Spooks...sorry another of my fantasies on there

Pleased to see all the crowd back on here. I have read both articles and agree that Ziggy sounded so genuine and sad. I am sure he will be hurting for a while but will after a few weeks be so relieved that everything is behind him. Chan's article in New was surprising, I expected her to attack him, but agree that it is probably a tactic to show Zig as the bad guy.

The difference with us over here is that we don't wish anything bad to happen to Chan and hope that she is happy in the future. It amazes me that some on other threads show so much hatred towards ziggy, all he did was tell the truth. To some extent he had to burn his bridges with her so that he couldn't be enticed back by her charms, he needed to know himself that it was finally over.

glad he's updated my space to single. Claire (PA Claire) if you are reading tell him to get some pics on there of him and Molly

Too right zitm (love your name!) we need some nice pics to look at, and you are right about us on here. We dont wish harm on anyone.

Good evening everyone

I haven't been able to post from work but have been reading the forum over the course of this afternoon and wanted to say a big thank you and well done to all those such as savethecheerlea and Christel who have been out fighting the good fight out there Much braver and more eloquent than me!

It has also been interesting to hear the views of FMs who are not necessarily Ziggy fans, such as Havergal and Eddybee, as it gives an idea of how the wider public may see things I guess.

I have read both Heat and New and tbh they were both much as I expected, and I agree with comments others have made about them here. I hope this all dies down as quick as possible and Zig can get on with whatever comes next - I for one will be supporting him all the way.

Oh, and DrummerMatt's posts were very interesting too!

Hi there Twizzy. I agree. Save and Christel are great. They also do it better than me. I am now staying put in here and also in happy girls new forum. It is great seeing the new posters on here. Great to see different views. It will all be old news tomorrow, depending on the DS I suppose. That will always hang round zigs neck really all the while Chan is contracted to them.