Ziggy appreciation thread (Part 4)

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JoJo4

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by zitm:
“Thanks Claire, I love your vids, I grinned all the way through Wouldn't it be good if ziggy used it on his myspace

had a nightmare trying to get on here earlier on, the site kept crashing on me and when i finally sorted it out on came Spooks...sorry another of my fantasies on there

Pleased to see all the crowd back on here. I have read both articles and agree that Ziggy sounded so genuine and sad. I am sure he will be hurting for a while but will after a few weeks be so relieved that everything is behind him. Chan's article in New was surprising, I expected her to attack him, but agree that it is probably a tactic to show Zig as the bad guy.

The difference with us over here is that we don't wish anything bad to happen to Chan and hope that she is happy in the future. It amazes me that some on other threads show so much hatred towards ziggy, all he did was tell the truth. To some extent he had to burn his bridges with her so that he couldn't be enticed back by her charms, he needed to know himself that it was finally over.

glad he's updated my space to single. Claire (PA Claire) if you are reading tell him to get some pics on there of him and Molly”

Well said zitm - they've wished him every nasty thing you can imagine on some threads, and the name calling is off the scale!

I said all along that is says more about the FMs than it does about Chanelle poor girl, and I can only imagine how they conduct their own private lives

ellene

13-11-2007

C l a i r e - Any chance you can post your videos again, I loved the songs you used

boobee

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“If any of you missed DrummerMatt's posts earlier today, I suggest you search his latest posts, they make very interesting reading”

JoJo - although I read his earlier postings and now too tired to go back and look - what thread was it in again?

meeowza

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“That's how I feel having read Ziggy's account in Heat magazine.

And I say that as someone who was not a fan or a supporter of Ziggy's during BB8 or during his time with Chanelle.

Here's what I posted on another thread. But I hope you don't mind me leaving it here as well.

Ziggy's Heat article is interesting.

Firstly he confirms what many of Chanelle's critics on this Board were saying about her whilst she was on BB8.

More importantly, he betrays the fact that he fears her. Yes, I don't for a moment believe that he was not primarily motivated by £££ in selling his story. But there's a lot more to it than that.

Ziggy suggests that he had to talk to the press first as he believes Chanelle was trying to set him up for some very unpleasant allegations. He feared that she was going to say that he hit her.

To quote, ' ... the writing was on the wall. In Dubai she threw a champagne bottle at me and then ran out of the room telling everyone that I had thrown it at her. It was like she was always trying to set me up. Once, during sex, she asked me to hit her & I had this feeling she would use it against me ...'

Having read Ziggy's full account, I have to say that it is very convincing. It all fits like a glove. ”

Yeah, I agree Eddybee....

It all seems very sinister. It really looks like the money got the better of Chanelle in the end.

I can see her together with her managment plotting and scheming. Ziggy's not photogenic/handsome enough for her, she needs a new model...trade him in. Lets have a nice juicy break up story to bring in the big bucks while we're at it.

Lets make sure we pin the break up on him...we dont want any bad press getting in the way of our perfume and calender launch. Plus we need to make sure that lots of punters enter the competition to win you for a day.

convince him to join our management, or dump him. He's getting in the way now, we need to sell more calenders and Nuts mags...it's better if your single, dump him. We've done with the Chiggy thing now anyway.

Things could have been plotted well in advance...even before Ziggy left the BB house.

So corrupt....

c l a i r e

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by ellene:
“C l a i r e - Any chance you can post your videos again, I loved the songs you used ”

the reason that I took them down was that there was some horrible comments appearing on them about Ziggy and I didn't want to be associated with that crap. I'll put them back up in a few days once everything has died down.

JoJo4

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by boobee:
“JoJo - although I read his earlier postings and now too tired to go back and look - what thread was it in again?”

Mainly in Chanelle Fights Back I think it's called but if you search his name via the 'search' facility at the top of the page you'll be able to find them all

Edit - it's called 'Chanelle hits back' in fact - sorry!

CHARMER1

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by bigbbfan:
“Did anyone know there was something in DS today

I thank my lucky Star

Heartbroken Chanelle Hayes was devastatee by her love-rat ex Ziggy Lichmans kiss and tell.

But the BB babe has found support from some new stars - you the Daily Star readers.

Chanelle had to endure reading his bitter personal attack in the paperrs on the morning of her 20th birthday.

The tearful blonde has been revealing her anguish since Siggy sold his story. She said I cant sleep and spend the nights crying.

I took down all the photos of us and removed pictures of us from my MySpace page.

As you have bombarded Chanelle with messsges of love and sympathy.

Kind hearted Daily Star readers have been writing e-mailing and texting us in your hundreds.

Your messages told her to forgetthe man she met in the Big Brother house (hes not worth your tears) and to move (ur beautiful and young and deserve better).

Chanelle who split with Ziggy 26 because of his partying lifestyle revealed she was ready to marry him. She added I always thought it was fate because wemet in the house. I assumed wed be together forever.

But she couldnt cope with his refusal to committ. He even called her by his ex girlfriends name three times. She said How bad is that.

Ziggys response was to sell a vicious and explicit version of their relationship to a downmarket paper. She told us Im devastated. I didnt think he could stoop so low.

But your amazing response to the last 24 hours has brought a smile back to her face and now grateful Chanelle is keen to put the past week behind her and get back to work.

She said First Id like to do something to thank the Daily Star readers for being so good to me.

There is a pic of the Chanelle pouting in bra pants and stockings and a pic of Ziggy with his dog (the one from Cosmopolitan).

I know which one I would rather look at.

Just thought you might like to see what utter tosh they are still printing and how they have the gaul to refer to NOTW as a downmarket paper I will never know.”

Arent the DS doing well, they said it was because of them and the DS readers that got Chanelle back into the house, I doubt that, because then she decided not to go in because the DS paid for her to go to America to meet Posh, that didnt work out...they took her off, got a calender done, got their scanty pictures and was left nowhere else to go but to try and promote her and Ziggy which they did "big time" never have I seen a front page, 4 pages long article about a BB relationship ever before, they have invested so much in Chanelle and it will be interesting to see how long they wil continue to support her.

I do think she is out of her debth and in believing she is a big celeb and the "best" h/m ever, it has gone to her head and she appears to think that even Zig is beneath her.....The higher you climb the harder you fall, and I think it will happen and being a softee at heart I do feel sorry for her if it happens because I dont think she will cope.

Charmer x

JoJo4

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by meeowza:
“Yeah, I agree Eddybee....

It all seems very sinister. It really looks like the money got the better of Chanelle in the end.

I can see her together with her managment plotting and scheming. Ziggy's not photogenic/handsome enough for her, she needs a new model...trade him in. Lets have a nice juicy break up story to bring in the big bucks while we're at it.

Lets make sure we pin the break up on him...we dont want any bad press getting in the way of our perfume and calender launch. Plus we need to make sure that lots of punters enter the competition to win you for a day.

convince him to join our management, or dump him. He's getting in the way now, we need to sell more calenders and Nuts mags...it's better if your single, dump him. We've done with the Chiggy thing now anyway.

Things could have been plotted well in advance...even before Ziggy left the BB house.

So corrupt....”

It's one of the most badly orchestrated pieces of PR I've ever seen if that's the case!

Her heavily rehearsed piece in New today sounds way too pat and impersonal, the words are from the page rather than from her heart - and I watched enough hours, days, months of her in the house to know how she talks!

In fact I don't think Ziggy needs to do any more now, it won't be long before more stories about Chanelle are circulating and eventually, even all those who rubbished the DS and others week on week will have to admit that it's just too much of a coincidence.

From the moment Chan went back into the house and whispered to Zig 'my agent wants to sign you' I was hearing alarm bells and they haven't stopped since - although I admit I never doubted that she loved him.

quin13

13-11-2007

catching up

Originally Posted by May Blossom:
“I know many of you are avoiding threads out there. But thought you might be interested in an exchange of e-mails between Emptybox & DrummerMatt

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...=692397&page=7

MB”

Very interesting and good info there, it dose make a lot of sense.

Originally Posted by big bruvver:
“Evening
sorry for interupting, I would just like to award Cristel A medal for her tireless work out there against the most unbelievable drivel I have ever read in her support for Ziggy
round of applause

best wishes to you xx”

Yep Cristel has done great work well done and all of you keep up the great you have done in supproting Zac.

Originally Posted by bigbbfan:
“Heres what it says

New Page 45

Ziggys feeling Footloose

Bigh Brothers Ziggy Lichman looks set to return to music after signing up to appear in the West En musical Footloose. Despite having never been in a musical before, the former Northern Line hunk 26 told me Its all top secret but this is a great result. I was offered panto but musical theatre is where I see my career going.

Well now hes split from girlfriend Chanelle Hayes 20 we guess Ziggy will be looking to spread his wings a bit. And we're sure his female fans will lap up the new role. In the show Ziggy will have to strip down to his tiny pants. Book now ladies!”

I will differently be going to that when it starts, I will have to drag a few of my female friend to go long with me.

Twizzy

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by Zigesa:
“Hi there Twizzy. I agree. Save and Christel are great. They also do it better than me. I am now staying put in here and also in happy girls new forum. It is great seeing the new posters on here. Great to see different views. It will all be old news tomorrow, depending on the DS I suppose. That will always hang round zigs neck really all the while Chan is contracted to them.”

I think this is the best place to be at the moment, and sooner or later the storm will pass... I think even the DS will move on, I think they will enjoy promoting her as a single girl

Cathy S

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by ellene:
“He's in there as Ziggy Lichman with the same picture he has on myspace so use the search on lichman & it will come up as well as his brother & sister”

I've tried that a few times, but it keeps coming up that the search is not working

c l a i r e

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“From the moment Chan went back into the house and whispered to Zig 'my agent wants to sign you' I was hearing alarm bells and they haven't stopped since - although I admit I never doubted that she loved him.”

Neither did i until very recently when I've found myself asking whether she loved him - or she loved being part of the Chanelle and Ziggy phenomenon - I think there is a subtle difference. Either way i just hope that they can both move on and lose the couple tag - although its probably easier said than done. Hopefully one of them will find someone else soon and the hype might die then.

That said I don't wish her any ill -will in fact in a way I feel quite sorry for her - but as she showed in the house she can bounce back quickly

. It gave me chills how she went from screaming and shouting the crying to pouting and blowing kisses into the camera within the space of about ten minutes on the day she finally left

ellene

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by c l a i r e:
“the reason that I took them down was that there was some horrible comments appearing on them about Ziggy and I didn't want to be associated with that crap. I'll put them back up in a few days once everything has died down.”

Thanks a million. Can you let me know when you've done it (I don't ask for much do I).

Zigesa

13-11-2007

right guys. off to bed now. Sleep well and see you all tomorrow.

JoJo4

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by c l a i r e:
“Neither did i until very recently when I've found myself asking whether she loved him - or she loved being part of the Chanelle and Ziggy phenomenon - I think there is a subtle difference. Either way i just hope that they can both move on and lose the couple tag - although its probably easier said than done. Hopefully one of them will find someone else soon and the hype might die then.

That said I don't wish her any ill -will in fact in a way I feel quite sorry for her - but as she showed in the house she can bounce back quickly. It gave me chills how she went from screaming and shouting the crying to pouting and blowing kisses into the camera within the space of about ten minutes on the day she finally left”

I think she loved him, but not in a healthy way, in a suffocating and possesive way. Although she seemed very mature in some ways, emotionally she is developmentally challenged, for all kinds of reasons.

The gap between intense love and intense hate is very small, particularly when you're 19 and have been over indulged all your life, and when Ziggy didn't tow the line I can easily see how her feelings could flip in a nanosecond.

I feel sorry for her too, she needs to address her issues and face up to the fact that she can't behave like this as an adult - it's not cute or endearing. I'm sure that once she has to start looking for work rather than tabloids fighting for her page 3 shots, she'll see life differently and accept that she needs to change.

zitm

13-11-2007

That is good news I was really

when they disappeared.

JoJo4

13-11-2007

I completely forgot to mention - I emailed Claire earlier offering support for Ziggy, and she replied thanking me, and that she would pass the message on to Ziggy!

I've never ever done anything like that in my life before

simmons9

13-11-2007

http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_...716-11,00.html

Cathy S

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by JoJo4:
“I completely forgot to mention - I emailed Claire earlier offering support for Ziggy, and she replied thanking me, and that she would pass the message on to Ziggy!

I've never ever done anything like that in my life before”

Hi JoJo4, can you let me have Claire's e-mail address please

ellene

13-11-2007

Goodnight all, talk tomorrow

zitm

13-11-2007

Well done, i hope he is okay

runner

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by simmons9:
“http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_...716-11,00.html”

Says it all..Doesnt it!!!!!

May Blossom

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by Cathy S:
“Hi JoJo4, can you let me have Claire's e-mail address please”

Ditto.

A few letters to mags (particularly Heat) would be a good idea as well.

aprilstar

13-11-2007

Hiya Zig supporters

I've just caught up again night to those going to bede but I was wondering if Janpox or Cathy s found zigs facebook ?

JoJo4

13-11-2007

Originally Posted by simmons9:
“http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_...716-11,00.html”

I suppose if she's under contract she doesn't have much choice

Originally Posted by Cathy S:
“Hi JoJo4, can you let me have Claire's e-mail address please”

I've PMd you Cathy.

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