Lots of coffee and water should do the trick

had to scroll halfway down the front page to find this thread this morning. it's in desperate need of a .....hello

morning all another message from brian, nice! the original party boy is back

Hi saskia

Afternoon all

Manda and Sam's mum not happy with the girls agent!

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...pNodeId=158324

Hiya all

Heya guys o.k i know i normally over-react but i think you are now. She just said she disagrees with some of the things they do which i'm sure any mum would. I'm sure if she was that unhappy she would tell the twins to leave him.

Sorry I'd say not happy, and also maybe their mum is talking for her girls.

"People might think they're like the Cheeky Girls, but they don't really want to go down that road. I think they are being changed by their management. When they're home they will very rarely dress in the same clothes, but that's what they're being asked to do, and their own personalities are being forgotten. I know it's all about selling the single, but that isn't what they want."

Maybe there mum is getting a bit too worried as well. She seems to think that just because they have been asked a couple of times to wear the same clothes it will suddenely make them do it all the time.

But virtually all the pics i have seen of them at parties,thorpe park etc have had them wearing seperate clothes to each other.

afternoon BBsis and indie. I have to say that I agree with the twins mum, you have remember indie that the agent is in it because he wants to make money, not because he has the girl's best interests at heart

Yes maybe he is but do you really think it will change there personality? They aren't going to start wearing the same clothes all the time overnight as recent pics have shown.

I disagree, most have been the same dress, or same dress but different colour, you cannot go by thorpe park as that was private time.

Last night was the first time I saw them in different outfits since maybe when Sam wore that see through outfit. Its on the nuts tv site now by the way, last nights interview.

They wore the same red dress to more mag and then to Brighton for a PA, they wore the same pink dresses for GMTV, they wore the same dress but different colour but also Charley had the same dress to another party.

Just saying

it's not about reality indie, it's about public perception fo the twins. They are being presented to us as one unit, when they are two individuals. Quite possibly the twin/silly song route could close the 'fashion' door to them

But thats the thing. Sure they wear the same clothes in alot of interviews but thats what i mean they are told to wear the same clothes but when they are in private they still wear different clothes.

But they want to be thought of as twins as the BB house showed otherwise they would have gone in on there own and they probably wouldn't do most of this stuff on there own anyway.

Sorry but how does being a twin ban you from working in fashion.

Hi astro, you are so right that the agent is in it for the money.

Watching nuts last night I noticed that Manda had bags under her eyes, and although she still looked pretty she looks tired too. You got to remember that on BB they were constantly staying up till 4 in the morning.

well they did audition seperately, it was the producers choice to put them in together.

i dont think its a question of not wanting to be thought of as twins... their mum is just worried that they are being made to dress the same and its not who they are. they hardly ever dressed the same in the house, even their eviction outfits were totally different!

Afternoon all

Indie were they constantly in the same clothes in the house!?

You got to admit it does looks silly sometimes when they wear the same clothes out. The agents are treating them like 5 year old twins and not 19.

afternoon saskia, you took the words out of my mouth. It was the producers who presented them as twins, and if they played up to the act to get as far as they did in the house then all kudos to them.

indie, it's not being twins that may close the fashion door, it's just that they may be perceived as a novelty unit rather than wanting to each seriously get a foot in the fashion door

Uhhh they did audition together I saw a pic on the channel 4 site with them at the auditions with someone else who auditioned together at the first stage.

Plus they said if one got evicted the other would walk so if they auditioned seperatly then they wouldn't mind would they?

Oh yeah and i'm pretty sure Sam wouldn't have auditioned by herself either. She had a BF already and cancelled a holiday apparently to go on.

afternoon Sten

Hi legend

Hey sorry having an argument here.

argument discussion more like lol

To keep on topic and not to upset

I think Bri should wear the same dress as Manda when he takes her out.

(couldn't think of a better way to get Bri involved lol)