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The Leona Lewis Appreciation Thread (Merged) (Part 4)
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shn321
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“Because Mika and Leona are two of his "favourites". ”

Yeah .. just saw that after I posted.

shn321
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“Yup, given Leona won 1 in every 2 votes in the ROTY poll, there's no chance she'll be out of the top 2 (and I'd suspect with there being no multi-voting in the internet vote, anything but miles clear in 1st).

The key will (obviously) be the phone / text vote on the night of the show. ”

Was the voting similar last year?

Leona made it to the Top 5 with AMLT last year I think
utoia2007
14-01-2008
Girls aloud are nominated for best group
but no doubt TT will win depending on how its voted for.
Ethereal
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by shn321:
“Was the voting similar last year?

Leona made it to the Top 5 with AMLT last year I think”

She was eliminated in the second round, didn't make it to the phone-in vote on the actual night.
peaceablegenie2
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by utoia2007:
“Girls aloud are nominated for best group
but no doubt TT will win depending on how its voted for.”

i would really love Girls Aloud to win best group...they really do deserve it
Sidespin Nid
14-01-2008
I want to see the odds now!
peaceablegenie2
14-01-2008
i must say this is the first time in many years i actually care about the brit awards and who wins
Ethereal
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“I want to see the odds now! ”

Don't trust odds, they said Rhydian was gonna easily win and more recently that Viktor was gonna be eliminated from BB. Both were wrong!
spiidey
14-01-2008
E-mail dispatched to Brit Website:

I notice from the Brit Award Terms & Conditions section of your website that, for Best British Single:

"Cast your vote by clicking on the link next to your favourite single of 2008. Multiple votes are allowed, but only your last vote will be counted. Voting closes for each round as follows:

* Round One: 23:59 GMT 14th February 2008
* Round Two: 23:59 GMT 15th February 2008
* Round Three: 23:59 GMT 16th February 2008
* Round Four: 17:00 GMT 17th February 2008"

http://www.brits.co.uk/vote/543/

I'm a bit confused at to what this means, where it states that "multiple votes are allowed, but only your last vote will be counted".

Does this mean that, in Rounds 1-4, if I were to vote 100 times for Take That and then once for The Kaiser Chiefs, from the same IP address, that only my vote for The Kaiser Chiefs would be allowed?

If this is correct, will multiple votes on the night of the final also be discarded when the vote count takes place?
spiidey
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“Don't trust odds, they said Rhydian was gonna easily win and more recently that Viktor was gonna be eliminated from BB. Both were wrong! ”

And Samanda were 1/8 to win BB!!!!!
peaceablegenie2
14-01-2008
OT arghhhhh Victor staying made me sooooo angry....poor jade
Ethereal
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“And Samanda were 1/8 to win BB!!!!! ”

LOL exactly! Aww I wish they had won.
utoia2007
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by peaceablegenie2:
“i must say this is the first time in many years i actually care about the brit awards and who wins”

Me too ive never cared!lol.
spiidey
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by peaceablegenie2:
“i must say this is the first time in many years i actually care about the brit awards and who wins”

Lol me too!
utoia2007
14-01-2008
Is wino nominated for any?
peaceablegenie2
14-01-2008
the last time i cared about the Brits was back in the day when Sclub7 were still around....lol
Sidespin Nid
14-01-2008
Same here. At least they'll be interesting this year
Ethereal
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by utoia2007:
“Is wino nominated for any?”

Nope.
spiidey
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“Yeah but there was a lot of multi-voting in the ROTY poll remember.”

But probably more by TT fans and she still scooped 50%
utoia2007
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“E-mail dispatched to Brit Website:

I notice from the Brit Award Terms & Conditions section of your website that, for Best British Single:

"Cast your vote by clicking on the link next to your favourite single of 2008. Multiple votes are allowed, but only your last vote will be counted. Voting closes for each round as follows:

* Round One: 23:59 GMT 14th February 2008
* Round Two: 23:59 GMT 15th February 2008
* Round Three: 23:59 GMT 16th February 2008
* Round Four: 17:00 GMT 17th February 2008"

http://www.brits.co.uk/vote/543/

I'm a bit confused at to what this means, where it states that "multiple votes are allowed, but only your last vote will be counted".

Does this mean that, in Rounds 1-4, if I were to vote 100 times for Take That and then once for The Kaiser Chiefs, from the same IP address, that only my vote for The Kaiser Chiefs would be allowed?

If this is correct, will multiple votes on the night of the final also be discarded when the vote count takes place?
”

Well done, hope they get bk to you
utoia2007
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“Nope.”

Maybe the brit awards dont like her train wreck behaviour or dont think shes a good role model so have snubbed her this year
spiidey
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“I want to see the odds now! ”

The key thing with odds is that they represent the outcome where the bookies are most likely to make profit (or minimise their losses).

In a number of non-sporting events, and particularly where a public phone in applies, the bookies find it incredibly difficult sometimes to predict how that vote will be received, as they generally have no insider knowledge (despite protestations to the contrary).

Where the bookies generally get it right is for example on football, but obviously even this is not an exact science.

The clearest example I have seen of the odds completely failing is when Leon won X Factor.

10 minutes before the final started, he was clear second favourite, at about 4/1, with Rhydian 2/7 and Same Difference 6/1.

In the break between the 2 shows, Leon went out to 9/1, Same Difference closed to 7/2 and Rhydian remained constant at 2/7ish.

The reason? Punters were backing Same Difference in their droves, and deserting Leon in their droves. The bookies had to respond by cutting Same Difference's odds, and conversely increased Leon's, not based on what they thought of Same Difference's & Leon's performances, but based on trying to minimise their losses should Same Difference win. Its all about market forces.

Anyway, I've rambled on WWWWAAAAYYYY to long
peaceablegenie2
14-01-2008
(i still think the biggest travesty is with big brother this year with Victor staying and Jade going ...lol )
i guess relying on odds is not a great thing at the moment
Sidespin Nid
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“The key thing with odds is that they represent the outcome where the bookies are most likely to make profit (or minimise their losses).

In a number of non-sporting events, and particularly where a public phone in applies, the bookies find it incredibly difficult sometimes to predict how that vote will be received, as they generally have no insider knowledge (despite protestations to the contrary).

Where the bookies generally get it right is for example on football, but obviously even this is not an exact science.

The clearest example I have seen of the odds completely failing is when Leon won X Factor.

10 minutes before the final started, he was clear second favourite, at about 4/1, with Rhydian 2/7 and Same Difference 6/1.

In the break between the 2 shows, Leon went out to 9/1, Same Difference closed to 7/2 and Rhydian remained constant at 2/7ish.

The reason? Punters were backing Same Difference in their droves, and deserting Leon in their droves. The bookies had to respond by cutting Same Difference's odds, and conversely increased Leon's, not based on what they thought of Same Difference's & Leon's performances, but based on trying to minimise their losses should Same Difference win. Its all about market forces.

Anyway, I've rambled on WWWWAAAAYYYY to long ”




Okay , I get it lol

Although I was more interested in seeing Leona involved in some betting again rather than see her chances!
Ethereal
14-01-2008
Originally Posted by spiidey:
“The key thing with odds is..”

..they might not be right.

That's all I would say lol. Never believe anything is a foregone conclusion.
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