I thought Rachel and Vincent's foxtrot was beautiful, but I've no idea if it was perfect, not being a dance expert. Having said that there's no such thing as perfect.
Why are people anti Rachel????
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Originally Posted by allisonbm2:
“I'm not anti Rachel I thought she did a charming dance but not a 4 10's dance imo”
“I'm not anti Rachel I thought she did a charming dance but not a 4 10's dance imo”
agree i like Rachel, i just don't think she should have got 4 10's tonight
Maybe it is because she seems so desperate to win. And the crying after being in the bottom 2 didn't help.
Because she was ridiculously overmarked. She is dull and cold. She has an air of desperation which is a horrible turn off.
Originally Posted by teewoods:
“Because there is a good deal of truth in it. Competitve young girls who dont go all jokey are not liked. Saying that if Rachel was in her 50's she would be forgiven. Just my 2 pence.”
“Because there is a good deal of truth in it. Competitve young girls who dont go all jokey are not liked. Saying that if Rachel was in her 50's she would be forgiven. Just my 2 pence.”
Do you realise that your statements are actually mysoginistic? Accusing woman of disliking another woman because they are jealous is actually a form of mysoginy?
Anyway why are Jodie and Christine so popular if this is true? They are hardly mingers are they?
Much as I like Rachel and her foxtrot, I think the judges had just handed her the death sentence. So many flaming (female) viewers are going off this delightful couple.
I think she did a marvellous job tonight. Don't know why people are crucifying her like that. It was the BEST dance of the night no doubt. But I agree it doesn't deserve the perfect 40 score. But is this HER fault?
I think she did a marvellous job tonight. Don't know why people are crucifying her like that. It was the BEST dance of the night no doubt. But I agree it doesn't deserve the perfect 40 score. But is this HER fault?
Originally Posted by tutti_frutti_79:
“Well...............ermmmmmm............why watch it???!!!”
“Well...............ermmmmmm............why watch it???!!!”
I'm not going to actually from now on, just wanted to see how the BBC were going to deal with the John controversy................and yes as I expected, way, way overboard.....................
Originally Posted by dome:
“Boring and robotic, doesn't feel the dance.”
“Boring and robotic, doesn't feel the dance.”
I agree - I find both her dancing and her personality rather plastic. Mind you, of all the girls left in the competition, the only one I like is Jodie. Lisa comes across as a bit too desperate, and Christine's whole "aw shucks, little ol' me" thing really gets on my nerves. So - go Jodie!
I am not anti-Rachel, i think she is really sweet and her dance tonight with Vincent was absolutely lovely.
Someone said something about missed steps, I didn't notice which I usually do so that must say something about the overall dance.
Someone said something about missed steps, I didn't notice which I usually do so that must say something about the overall dance.
Originally Posted by moonbaby:
“No way did she deserve four tens! She stumbled and missed several steps- had anyone else done that they would have penalised. Its a travesty that she received a perfect score.
For me she is cold and she doesn't sell the dance at all.”
“No way did she deserve four tens! She stumbled and missed several steps- had anyone else done that they would have penalised. Its a travesty that she received a perfect score.
For me she is cold and she doesn't sell the dance at all.”
Stumbles??? I think you're imagining things or inventing errors to make the girl look bad.
Originally Posted by Sheila36dd:
“Stumbles??? I think you're imagining things or inventing errors to make the girl look bad.”
“Stumbles??? I think you're imagining things or inventing errors to make the girl look bad.”
No I am not. Look at the other threads other people noticed it as well
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Much as I like Rachel and her foxtrot, I think the judges had just handed her the death sentence. So many flaming (female) viewers are going off this delightful couple.
I think she did a marvellous job tonight. Don't know why people are crucifying her like that. It was the BEST dance of the night no doubt. But I agree it doesn't deserve the perfect 40 score. But is this HER fault?”
“Much as I like Rachel and her foxtrot, I think the judges had just handed her the death sentence. So many flaming (female) viewers are going off this delightful couple.
I think she did a marvellous job tonight. Don't know why people are crucifying her like that. It was the BEST dance of the night no doubt. But I agree it doesn't deserve the perfect 40 score. But is this HER fault?”
SCD-O its not often I disagree with you but I am irritated that people are always blaming 'female' voters for 'going off' the women contestents or not voting for them. I, and several fo my friends, have voted primarily for women in this series.
Perhaps people are 'going off' Rachel and vincent because they are so blatently pushed by the Beeb (review the fawning by claudia on ITT)- and to this end people like to form their own views.
The 40 tonight was easy for the judges to give because, as usual, R&V were dancing last or nearly last- it was undeserved and I hoped the judges had learned their lessons from past series but apparently not.
Originally Posted by moonbaby:
“No I am not. Look at the other threads other people noticed it as well”
“No I am not. Look at the other threads other people noticed it as well
”
You can tell by her face actually, certain parts of the dance her smile disintegrates
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“SCD-O its not often I disagree with you but I am irritated that people are always blaming 'female' voters for 'going off' the women contestents or not voting for them. I, and several fo my friends, have voted primarily for women in this series.”
“SCD-O its not often I disagree with you but I am irritated that people are always blaming 'female' voters for 'going off' the women contestents or not voting for them. I, and several fo my friends, have voted primarily for women in this series.”
Me too, I only voted for Alesha last year and Louisa the year before, I hate all this women hate women nonsense, there's been quite a bit of negativity towards Tom on the forums, jealous male viewers perhaps? or doesn't that work both ways.
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“SCD-O its not often I disagree with you but I am irritated that people are always blaming 'female' voters for 'going off' the women contestents or not voting for them. I, and several fo my friends, have voted primarily for women in this series.
Perhaps people are 'going off' Rachel and vincent because they are so blatently pushed by the Beeb (review the fawning by claudia on ITT)- and to this end people like to form their own views.
The 40 tonight was easy for the judges to give because, as usual, R&V were dancing last or nearly last- it was undeserved and I hoped the judges had learned their lessons from past series but apparently not.”
“SCD-O its not often I disagree with you but I am irritated that people are always blaming 'female' voters for 'going off' the women contestents or not voting for them. I, and several fo my friends, have voted primarily for women in this series.
Perhaps people are 'going off' Rachel and vincent because they are so blatently pushed by the Beeb (review the fawning by claudia on ITT)- and to this end people like to form their own views.
The 40 tonight was easy for the judges to give because, as usual, R&V were dancing last or nearly last- it was undeserved and I hoped the judges had learned their lessons from past series but apparently not.”
You are certainly not one of those 'female' viewers I alluded to in my post, to be sure.
But there ARE a lot of irrational ones out there. Missed heel leads? What the h*ll were they talking about? Rachel's footwork looked fantastic. Albeit I am not a dancer, but I certainly saw the heel leads (when the camera actually showed her feet that is).
I do think she doesn't deserve perfect 40. BUT, foxtrot is a very, very boring dance. It's basically dancing in a straight vertical line, and to make foxtrot entertaining is very, very difficult. Sometimes, people go for entertainment value and they produce less perfect posture and therefore get lower marks. Vincent knew they can't afford to do that. But rather they chose to please the judges and worked hard to perfect the foxtrot. I thought Rachel was engaging with Vincent. I don't see why she was so treated in this forum?!
She deserves to be the top of the leaderboard as she was clearly the best dancer of the night. Maybe not a perfect 40, but she's the top girl tonight.
Originally Posted by CityofRoses:
“Me too, I only voted for Alesha last year and Louisa the year before, I hate all this women hate women nonsense, there's been quite a bit of negativity towards Tom on the forums, jealous male viewers perhaps? or doesn't that work both ways.”
“Me too, I only voted for Alesha last year and Louisa the year before, I hate all this women hate women nonsense, there's been quite a bit of negativity towards Tom on the forums, jealous male viewers perhaps? or doesn't that work both ways.”
Me too. My favourite has been a woman for each of the last three series, including this year. In fact I've cast votes tonight for the first time this year, for both Lisa & Jodie.
Originally Posted by FelineFantastic:
“SCD-O its not often I disagree with you but I am irritated that people are always blaming 'female' voters for 'going off' the women contestents or not voting for them. I, and several fo my friends, have voted primarily for women in this series.
Perhaps people are 'going off' Rachel and vincent because they are so blatently pushed by the Beeb (review the fawning by claudia on ITT)- and to this end people like to form their own views.
The 40 tonight was easy for the judges to give because, as usual, R&V were dancing last or nearly last- it was undeserved and I hoped the judges had learned their lessons from past series but apparently not.”
“SCD-O its not often I disagree with you but I am irritated that people are always blaming 'female' voters for 'going off' the women contestents or not voting for them. I, and several fo my friends, have voted primarily for women in this series.
Perhaps people are 'going off' Rachel and vincent because they are so blatently pushed by the Beeb (review the fawning by claudia on ITT)- and to this end people like to form their own views.
The 40 tonight was easy for the judges to give because, as usual, R&V were dancing last or nearly last- it was undeserved and I hoped the judges had learned their lessons from past series but apparently not.”
Well put FF. I loved Alesha last year yet was accused of being "jealous of a goodlooking female" because I didn't like Kelly.
Originally Posted by CityofRoses:
“Me too, I only voted for Alesha last year and Louisa the year before, I hate all this women hate women nonsense, there's been quite a bit of negativity towards Tom on the forums, jealous male viewers perhaps? or doesn't that work both ways.”
“Me too, I only voted for Alesha last year and Louisa the year before, I hate all this women hate women nonsense, there's been quite a bit of negativity towards Tom on the forums, jealous male viewers perhaps? or doesn't that work both ways.”
Sorry, I am a straight man and I actually liked Tom's (or rather Dr Sam's as I like his persona more than Tom himself) tango tonight. I even voted for him.
I think the tears that showed themselves when she got dumped in the bottom two a few weeks ago have had an affect on the judges
They certainly seemed to have changed their tune.
Rachel is bland- same as Emma Bunton- and therefore teachers pet
They certainly seemed to have changed their tune.
Rachel is bland- same as Emma Bunton- and therefore teachers pet
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Rachel is bland- same as Emma Bunton- and therefore teachers pet”
“Rachel is bland- same as Emma Bunton- and therefore teachers pet”
I think there's also often an element of judges favouring people for their technique alone, whereas most (though not all) of the public prefer a combination of good dancing AND performance.
Originally Posted by dome:
“Boring and robotic, doesn't feel the dance.”
“Boring and robotic, doesn't feel the dance.”
That's why I haven't been blown away by any of her dances. I can only liken her to a Madame Tussauds dummy gliding aound the floor - pretty, but no expression. She seems a nice woman but void of any personality.
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“You are certainly not one of those 'female' viewers I alluded to in my post, to be sure.
But there ARE a lot of irrational ones out there. Missed heel leads? What the h*ll were they talking about? Rachel's footwork looked fantastic. Albeit I am not a dancer, but I certainly saw the heel leads (when the camera actually showed her feet that is).
I do think she doesn't deserve perfect 40. BUT, foxtrot is a very, very boring dance. It's basically dancing in a straight vertical line, and to make foxtrot entertaining is very, very difficult. Sometimes, people go for entertainment value and they produce less perfect posture and therefore get lower marks. Vincent knew they can't afford to do that. But rather they chose to please the judges and worked hard to perfect the foxtrot. I thought Rachel was engaging with Vincent. I don't see why she was so treated in this forum?!
She deserves to be the top of the leaderboard as she was clearly the best dancer of the night. Maybe not a perfect 40, but she's the top girl tonight.”
“You are certainly not one of those 'female' viewers I alluded to in my post, to be sure.
But there ARE a lot of irrational ones out there. Missed heel leads? What the h*ll were they talking about? Rachel's footwork looked fantastic. Albeit I am not a dancer, but I certainly saw the heel leads (when the camera actually showed her feet that is).
I do think she doesn't deserve perfect 40. BUT, foxtrot is a very, very boring dance. It's basically dancing in a straight vertical line, and to make foxtrot entertaining is very, very difficult. Sometimes, people go for entertainment value and they produce less perfect posture and therefore get lower marks. Vincent knew they can't afford to do that. But rather they chose to please the judges and worked hard to perfect the foxtrot. I thought Rachel was engaging with Vincent. I don't see why she was so treated in this forum?!
She deserves to be the top of the leaderboard as she was clearly the best dancer of the night. Maybe not a perfect 40, but she's the top girl tonight.”
Foxtrot isn't just dancing in a straight vertical line. I'm not an expert, but I've been taking private lessons as well as two classes a week in ballroom for over a year, so I do know something of what I'm talking about. And there were no heel leads that the camera showed at any rate. There may have been heel leads when the camera wasn't showing her feet, but even if there were she clearly missed plenty when the camera was on her feet.
She was definitely the best of all the girls tonight, but she wasn't worth 40 and she did make mistakes.
Over-marked is the most over-used word this series.
Cherie, Lisa, Tom, Austin, John - all been accused of it. So now it's Rachel's turn
Although I agree about Cherie. She made such blatant mistakes and she was still gettig high marks!!!
Cherie, Lisa, Tom, Austin, John - all been accused of it. So now it's Rachel's turn
Although I agree about Cherie. She made such blatant mistakes and she was still gettig high marks!!!
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