I think if kristina isnt invited back next year that would be an own goal by the bbc considering how popular she is with the viewers. Noticed tonight after their final dance kristina walked away leaving john to be interviewed by bruce, fair play to bruce for bringing her back in saying "your a team" shows the modesty of the lady. John also has massive respect for her, for me shes the star of the show.
Kristina Rihanoff speaks to News of the World
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Originally Posted by Roy&HG:
“Whats the problem with talking to the press? or is everyone who does damned ? as said previously - hardly a kiss n tell!
I'm glad she's not 'gagged '....as I expect John is. Or if she is -she obviously feels strongly about the way it all turned out and wants people to know. What's wrong with that?”
“Whats the problem with talking to the press? or is everyone who does damned ? as said previously - hardly a kiss n tell!
I'm glad she's not 'gagged '....as I expect John is. Or if she is -she obviously feels strongly about the way it all turned out and wants people to know. What's wrong with that?”
Of one thing I am certain - Kristina is one classy lady. One thing the judges got right this year was pairing her with John as they both have an innate decency about them. The way that she has spent time with John & obviously loved doing it is to her immense credit. Others wouldn't have put in as much time & effort working with someone who was struggling with dance. I do hope she is back next year as I think she is a very positve addition to the show. However I will understand totally if she said no thanks after being involved in this debacle.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Who says I believe what's written in this paper?
”
“Who says I believe what's written in this paper?
”
This, perhaps:
Originally Posted by Veri:
“My opinion of Kristina has just gone sharply down.
Cashing in on this is bad enough, but the News of the World?!? ”
“My opinion of Kristina has just gone sharply down.
Cashing in on this is bad enough, but the News of the World?!?
”
Originally Posted by allisonbm2:
“Ah but if she is seen to be criticising the show or one/or more of the judges that would be a different matter as with Nicole...whether or not she has actually given the interview.
Personally I truely hope she will be back next year”
“Ah but if she is seen to be criticising the show or one/or more of the judges that would be a different matter as with Nicole...whether or not she has actually given the interview.
Personally I truely hope she will be back next year”
I think the BBC will be begging her to return...
I can't believe anyone REALLY thinks this:
“The BBC pestered him for three years to take part in the show until he felt he couldn’t back out because he worked for them. He told me he hadn’t the guts to say no again."
is true.
It's either a massive insult to John to believe he could be so weak willed or he's not got the backbone I would have attributed to him. Many people have been asked multiple times. Some of them BBC employees. None have ever been forced into doing it though, it seems! I believe James May has been asked several times and yet he hasn't seen the need to cave to them.
“The BBC pestered him for three years to take part in the show until he felt he couldn’t back out because he worked for them. He told me he hadn’t the guts to say no again."
is true.
It's either a massive insult to John to believe he could be so weak willed or he's not got the backbone I would have attributed to him. Many people have been asked multiple times. Some of them BBC employees. None have ever been forced into doing it though, it seems! I believe James May has been asked several times and yet he hasn't seen the need to cave to them.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“My opinion of Kristina has just gone sharply down.
Cashing in on this is bad enough, but the News of the World?!? ”
“My opinion of Kristina has just gone sharply down.
Cashing in on this is bad enough, but the News of the World?!?
”
Have you read it? It's a lovely interview, nothing bad at all. It just makes me sad that they've gone because I would have loved for her to win.
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“I can't believe anyone REALLY thinks this:
“The BBC pestered him for three years to take part in the show until he felt he couldn’t back out because he worked for them. He told me he hadn’t the guts to say no again."
is true.
It's either a massive insult to John to believe he could be so weak willed or he's not got the backbone I would have attributed to him. Many people have been asked multiple times. Some of them BBC employees. None have ever been forced into doing it though, it seems! I believe James May has been asked several times and yet he hasn't seen the need to cave to them.”
“I can't believe anyone REALLY thinks this:
“The BBC pestered him for three years to take part in the show until he felt he couldn’t back out because he worked for them. He told me he hadn’t the guts to say no again."
is true.
It's either a massive insult to John to believe he could be so weak willed or he's not got the backbone I would have attributed to him. Many people have been asked multiple times. Some of them BBC employees. None have ever been forced into doing it though, it seems! I believe James May has been asked several times and yet he hasn't seen the need to cave to them.”
Actually, I can see Kristina saying that. Bear in mind, John blowed a lot of things out of proportion when they first met because Kristina was unaware of who he was. I can just hear him going: "They've asked me three times I'm so big over here, and in the end I just had to say yes."
I like Kristina but am baffled by the way she has been pedestalised by some.
Obviously John had very serious limitations but I'm struggling to think of a more boring Strictly couple on the dance floor (not off it obviously).
And there's nothing commendable or classy about selling your story to this red-top when you know it's going to be luridly sensationalised....although I'm not particularly criticising her for it either.
It will be interesting to see if she's invited back or indeed if she wants to return.
Obviously John had very serious limitations but I'm struggling to think of a more boring Strictly couple on the dance floor (not off it obviously).
And there's nothing commendable or classy about selling your story to this red-top when you know it's going to be luridly sensationalised....although I'm not particularly criticising her for it either.
It will be interesting to see if she's invited back or indeed if she wants to return.
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“I can't believe anyone REALLY thinks this:
“The BBC pestered him for three years to take part in the show until he felt he couldn’t back out because he worked for them. He told me he hadn’t the guts to say no again."
is true.
It's either a massive insult to John to believe he could be so weak willed or he's not got the backbone I would have attributed to him. Many people have been asked multiple times. Some of them BBC employees. None have ever been forced into doing it though, it seems! I believe James May has been asked several times and yet he hasn't seen the need to cave to them.”
“I can't believe anyone REALLY thinks this:
“The BBC pestered him for three years to take part in the show until he felt he couldn’t back out because he worked for them. He told me he hadn’t the guts to say no again."
is true.
It's either a massive insult to John to believe he could be so weak willed or he's not got the backbone I would have attributed to him. Many people have been asked multiple times. Some of them BBC employees. None have ever been forced into doing it though, it seems! I believe James May has been asked several times and yet he hasn't seen the need to cave to them.”
It is true!! They said it right at the start of the series when he was interviewed. He had been asked regularly before but didn't think it was him as he had such a straight laced employment history (or words to that effect). Then he decided, oh it might be fun. I'm in my 60's and now might be a time to do something like this.
I can understand your cynisim of the red tops but it was aired on the programme. One of the very first ones and it may have even been the introductory one.
I don't buy the NoTW and a lot of the reporting is garbage but this was a straightforward interview so there is no reason to disbelieve it. Why would Kristina lie?
Must say this article, really confirms our suspicions about certain aspects of SCD. There is nothing derogatory in this piece, so hopefully, Kristina is invited to return next year.
Kristina is an attractive young lady with high principles. It is a pity certain individuals on the SCD do not have the same.
In our household, we felt she is the top professional for this year and her choreography was lovely. Nothing flashy - it hit just the right note, so to speak.
Kristina is an attractive young lady with high principles. It is a pity certain individuals on the SCD do not have the same.
In our household, we felt she is the top professional for this year and her choreography was lovely. Nothing flashy - it hit just the right note, so to speak.
Originally Posted by End-Em-All:
“This, perhaps:”
“This, perhaps:”
What that's in the paper are you imagining that i believe?
Originally Posted by -string-:
“Have you read it? It's a lovely interview, nothing bad at all. It just makes me sad that they've gone because I would have loved for her to win.”
“Have you read it? It's a lovely interview, nothing bad at all. It just makes me sad that they've gone because I would have loved for her to win.”
I've read it, but evidently we're not allowed to believe anything that's in it.
Originally Posted by Bigbruddah:
“Hear, Hear!!! Best post I've read on this subject anywhere. I've read posts saying he was 'manipulating' the show, and all sorts of nonsense. Why on earth would he want to manipulate a dance show? For what purpose?
The producers know exactly what they are doing when they invite an overweight 64 year old man onto a show. A man who has led a sedentary lifestyle and has never danced a step in his life. They know from the outset he doesn't have a hope, but we can all have a laugh at his expense for the first few weeks and then vote him out as and when the judges tell us to, so the floor is cleared for the real 'contenders'. Only this time the public weren't playing ball. They wanted him in, and how the toys got hurled out the prams by all and sundry when the people picking up the phones wouldn't obey instructions. By the judges, the professionals and by other competitors I don't doubt for a second.
They made it impossible for him to remain and it was clear how upset and distressed Kristina was by what had gone on. For once I applaud someone speaking to the NOTW. What she says confirms what a lot of us already suspected. Both she and John have emerged from this with great dignity but as for the likes of Craig and Arlene, James Jordan and others - they should be ashamed of themselves. John's line about the judges tonight was superb!
In normal circumstances it would probably cost her, her place on next year's show, but I honestly don't think they'd dare.”
“Hear, Hear!!! Best post I've read on this subject anywhere. I've read posts saying he was 'manipulating' the show, and all sorts of nonsense. Why on earth would he want to manipulate a dance show? For what purpose?
The producers know exactly what they are doing when they invite an overweight 64 year old man onto a show. A man who has led a sedentary lifestyle and has never danced a step in his life. They know from the outset he doesn't have a hope, but we can all have a laugh at his expense for the first few weeks and then vote him out as and when the judges tell us to, so the floor is cleared for the real 'contenders'. Only this time the public weren't playing ball. They wanted him in, and how the toys got hurled out the prams by all and sundry when the people picking up the phones wouldn't obey instructions. By the judges, the professionals and by other competitors I don't doubt for a second.
They made it impossible for him to remain and it was clear how upset and distressed Kristina was by what had gone on. For once I applaud someone speaking to the NOTW. What she says confirms what a lot of us already suspected. Both she and John have emerged from this with great dignity but as for the likes of Craig and Arlene, James Jordan and others - they should be ashamed of themselves. John's line about the judges tonight was superb!
In normal circumstances it would probably cost her, her place on next year's show, but I honestly don't think they'd dare.”
great post, well balanced. I agree and hope she will be back next year.
Originally Posted by Endemoniada:
“I like Kristina but am baffled by the way she has been pedestalised by some.
Obviously John had very serious limitations but I'm struggling to think of a more boring Strictly couple on the dance floor (not off it obviously).
And there's nothing commendable or classy about selling your story to this red-top when you know it's going to be luridly sensationalised....although I'm not particularly criticising her for it either.
It will be interesting to see if she's invited back or indeed if she wants to return.”
“I like Kristina but am baffled by the way she has been pedestalised by some.
Obviously John had very serious limitations but I'm struggling to think of a more boring Strictly couple on the dance floor (not off it obviously).
And there's nothing commendable or classy about selling your story to this red-top when you know it's going to be luridly sensationalised....although I'm not particularly criticising her for it either.
It will be interesting to see if she's invited back or indeed if she wants to return.
”
Is that why you go from thread to thread commenting about anything John and/or Kristina
Originally Posted by Veri:
“I've read it, but evidently we're not allowed to believe anything that's in it.”
“I've read it, but evidently we're not allowed to believe anything that's in it.”
It doesn't really say anything though does it? Very non sensational for NOTW. Shows just how big this story is that they can bank on selling papers just by having pics of Kristina and a few nice comments about John.
Originally Posted by McBrien76:
“Heartbroken Kristina Rihanoff tells how the judges’ “cheap, derogatory” comments week after week drove the political journalist to DESPAIR until he was “broken by cruelty”.
“John was like a lamb led to the slaughter,” stormed the furious 31-year-old Siberian beauty
“The BBC pestered him for three years to take part in the show until he felt he couldn’t back out because he worked for them. He told me he hadn’t the guts to say no again.
“But they just let him be savaged. "
She SLAMS judge Arlene Phillips for being the worst of his tormentors.
“I don’t know why Arlene was so critical when she is the same age as him. She should have stuck to constructive criticism and not belittled him.”
“At first the judges would apologise behind the scenes and John would make a joke like ‘don’t worry, I know where you live.’
“But on Tuesday something had changed. John was sad. He was no longer smiling and joking
On Wednesday morning, she got a message from him at her London flat saying: “I need to talk to you.” Her heart sank.
“I knew it wasn’t going to be good when I called him. He told me he wanted out of the show. He said, ‘I can’t take it any more—I am going to leave. There is no fun any more in all of this."
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/show...peaks-out.html”
“Heartbroken Kristina Rihanoff tells how the judges’ “cheap, derogatory” comments week after week drove the political journalist to DESPAIR until he was “broken by cruelty”.
“John was like a lamb led to the slaughter,” stormed the furious 31-year-old Siberian beauty
“The BBC pestered him for three years to take part in the show until he felt he couldn’t back out because he worked for them. He told me he hadn’t the guts to say no again.
“But they just let him be savaged. "
She SLAMS judge Arlene Phillips for being the worst of his tormentors.
“I don’t know why Arlene was so critical when she is the same age as him. She should have stuck to constructive criticism and not belittled him.”
“At first the judges would apologise behind the scenes and John would make a joke like ‘don’t worry, I know where you live.’
“But on Tuesday something had changed. John was sad. He was no longer smiling and joking
On Wednesday morning, she got a message from him at her London flat saying: “I need to talk to you.” Her heart sank.
“I knew it wasn’t going to be good when I called him. He told me he wanted out of the show. He said, ‘I can’t take it any more—I am going to leave. There is no fun any more in all of this."
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/show...peaks-out.html”
To be honest, (and I dont usually say this, but) I completely believe the 'News of the World's' take. The judges (excuse me, but who are they anyway) have become too powerful. John represented the average Joe Bloggs off the street. The BBC have let the show down and themselves down by letting John go. They have lost the plot of the show and its purpose. Do they not realise who John represented? Yes, John wasn't great, but then neither am I, and the mojority of the great British public. He represented the majority, learning a new skill, a skill out of the comfort zone. His journey had just started and was just gathering pace. I am a huge fan of the BBC, but, the BBC, you have let me down big time on this occasion.
Originally Posted by Kez100:
“It is true!! They said it right at the start of the series when he was interviewed. He had been asked regularly before but didn't think it was him as he had such a straight laced employment history (or words to that effect). Then he decided, oh it might be fun. I'm in my 60's and now might be a time to do something like this.
I can understand your cynisim of the red tops but it was aired on the programme. One of the very first ones and it may have even been the introductory one.”
“It is true!! They said it right at the start of the series when he was interviewed. He had been asked regularly before but didn't think it was him as he had such a straight laced employment history (or words to that effect). Then he decided, oh it might be fun. I'm in my 60's and now might be a time to do something like this.
I can understand your cynisim of the red tops but it was aired on the programme. One of the very first ones and it may have even been the introductory one.”
I think it was the "caving" in because he was a BBC employee comment that raised eyebrows, as opposed to his "oh alright then, it could be a laugh" response.
They ask a lot of people to do it - I think I'd pay good money to watch James May do it.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“My opinion of Kristina has just gone sharply down.
Cashing in on this is bad enough, but the News of the World?!? ”
“My opinion of Kristina has just gone sharply down.
Cashing in on this is bad enough, but the News of the World?!?
”
Yes. Being a Russian who has lived in America for years, she should definitely know all about the reputation of the News of the World!
Originally Posted by Kez100:
“It is true!! They said it right at the start of the series when he was interviewed. He had been asked regularly before but didn't think it was him as he had such a straight laced employment history (or words to that effect). Then he decided, oh it might be fun. I'm in my 60's and now might be a time to do something like this.”
“It is true!! They said it right at the start of the series when he was interviewed. He had been asked regularly before but didn't think it was him as he had such a straight laced employment history (or words to that effect). Then he decided, oh it might be fun. I'm in my 60's and now might be a time to do something like this.”
Yes but this isn't worded in that way is it?
It makes it sound like he didn't really want to do it but felt like he couldn't say 'no' because he wasn't brave enough to stand up to their demands. And if they can twist this it just makes to wonder what else is a suspect version of the truth...
Originally Posted by End-Em-All:
“Is that why you go from thread to thread commenting about anything John and/or Kristina”
“Is that why you go from thread to thread commenting about anything John and/or Kristina
”
Well I don't keep any kind of tally of my comments regarding each couple so if I do what you're suggesting I'm not aware of it. Frankly I'd be surprised but you never know.
Even assuming I do, I don't think you should read any significance into it. I see no reason at all why the dullness of John & Kristina's dancing should be correlated with the number of my comments about them. It may be purely coincidental...particularly as some of the comments have little to do with their dancing.
Originally Posted by Erinfan:
“Yes. Being a Russian who has lived in America for years, she should definitely know all about the reputation of the News of the World!
”
“Yes. Being a Russian who has lived in America for years, she should definitely know all about the reputation of the News of the World!
”
The British tabloids are notorious throughout the world.
Originally Posted by Endemoniada:
“Well I don't keep any kind of tally of my comments regarding each couple so if I do what you're suggesting I'm not aware of it. Frankly I'd be surprised but you never know.
Even assuming I do, I don't think you should read any significance into it. I see no reason at all why the dullness of John & Kristina's dancing should be correlated with the number of my comments about them. It may be purely coincidental...particularly as some of the comments have little to do with their dancing.”
“Well I don't keep any kind of tally of my comments regarding each couple so if I do what you're suggesting I'm not aware of it. Frankly I'd be surprised but you never know.
Even assuming I do, I don't think you should read any significance into it. I see no reason at all why the dullness of John & Kristina's dancing should be correlated with the number of my comments about them. It may be purely coincidental...particularly as some of the comments have little to do with their dancing.”
Indeed
Originally Posted by Liza with a Zee:
“I think the BBC will be begging her to return...”
“I think the BBC will be begging her to return...”
They didn't beg Nicole who said nothing worse than that(both allegedly).Or is it the Bruce factor which is the difference?
Originally Posted by End-Em-All:
“Indeed”
“Indeed
”
I'm glad you're seeing it my way now.
Your mistake is one that a lot of people make but I'm sure you've learned a valuable lesson.
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