OK, so I clearly have no sense of humour.
I thought the BBC were going to crack down on lewd broadcasting in the wake of Wossy and his mate's antics.

Is it really only me who finds Len Goodman increasingly distasteful? All that "knickers" stuff to Christine. And then trying to justify it when Craig tried to intervene.

That bloke really needs to go away and not darken our screens again. Him and his "naked with Claudia" and his pickled walnuts. Yuk.

Len is a dirty old man.

Wow, some folk take things so seriously.

I honestly don't think that Len meant anything lewd by it, it was a throwaway remark (excuse pun), Christine and Matt took it in good spirits (Matt even said "I haven't taught her that bit") but Craig got a bit shirty about it. Len got more annoyed than I expected in response though!

I'm sorry but I thought it was out of line as was Len's reaction to challenged by Craig by it. I thought he shouldn't have said that on a family show then again I thought Len was out of line - rude and dismissive of opinions not his own even though some of them had validity. The contestants chanting "Jerry Jerry" showed what they thought it got turned into. Len's got too big for his boots and needs taking down a peg or two - instead ITT seems to be pandering more and more to his ego.

Times and climate have changed (probably only temporarily) because of Ross/Brand shenanigans - witness my hero Simon Amstell on Buzzcocks wearing pink bunny suit!

Goodman got away with some really rather sexist stuff last series (what he could teach Alesha in his dressing room etc. eeugh) but I don't think the audience is so forgiving at the moment.

I hope the BBC has told him to rein it in - we'll see over the rest of the series if he listens and calms the lewd stuff down.

Yes, it is only you. You need to get a life. There are too many "disgusted of Tunbridge Wellses" crawling out of the woodwork these days as it is. It was an excellent way of trying to break her out of the slight reserve that she can't quite get rid of in her dancing. How on earth people can't understand that is beyond me. As for Craig trying to take the moral high ground, well he needs to clamber out of the swamp he's in first!

Yes we do - and I think rightly so.

It is time that the silent majority found its voice and made it clear to the BBC (and the other broadcasters) that we are sick and tired of having to put up with this sort of behaviour during what is supposed to be a family entertainment programme.

I would have thought that the recent uproar over the Ross/Brand fiasco would have made the producers more sensitive to this sort of thing and they should have made it clear to all the judges and presenters that they need to be careful about the kind of comments they use.

Unfortunately, if they did, it seems to have gone right over Len Goodman's head - or he thinks he is too important for it to apply to him as well!

Obviously, the general public is made up of people with a wide range of tastes and I am not saying that lewd comments and other bad language should be banned completely - but what I do sincerely believe if that they should be used in the right context and not just be allowed to proliferate all sorts of programmes.

Allowing them to be thrown about on a show like Strictly smacks of a cynical attempt to raise the viewing ratings by going for the shock factor. That is hardly innovative broadcasting and merely shows laziness on the part of the editorial team.

Please, please, please - let's draw back from this kind of tabloid television and start to move back to good entertainment.

ratzakli,

I'm with you on this one. I would love to go back to good old fasioned entertainment, instead of every programme these days full of bad language, sex, sexual innuendos etc. Seems to me if there are any shows on without all this then they prove really popular - ie: Heartbeat, the Royal, etc., though these are only 2 I can mention.

I think the BBC have been dumming down for a long time now - even the TV presenters don't give a monkey's about their appearance anymore. They used to be so smart, but now they all seem to go without ties (and I hated the BBC for allowing that) and just look plain scruffy. And these used to be the respected BBC.

I really do not like Len. He's rude, abusive and can never take anybody's elses opinion. His behaviour towards Craig last night was quite disgraceful and when the judges are in the firing line at the moment then this sort of behaviour doesn't help his cause.

I have to say though, if that was Arlene who said the comment about the knickers last night she would have been subjected to far more abuse from people on this forum. Seems Len can get away with a lot whereas Arlene can't.

But, yes, wouldn't it be lovely to get back to good old fashioned entertainment, and by and by Strictly is that. The Ross/Brand events have shown that the public are getting sick and tired of all this filth. They're even getting fed up with all the bad language of Jamie Oliver and Gordon Ramsey. I'm hoping time's are a changing, though the BBC will encourage bad language and sex all the more knowing them.

Sorry for going off topic.

Judging by the number of other comments in this and other threads, it seems to me that you are the one in the minority.

Us "disgusted of Tunbridge Wellses", as you put it, haven't been in the woodwork - we have just been trying to hold our tongues and put up with it. Unfortunately, this sort of behaviour is reaching such low levels that we are finding it impossible to just ignore any longer.

There used to be an agreement that looser rules about behaviour would not be allowed until after 9pm (the watershed) but that has been degraded to such an extent that we have to make our feelings known.

I don't begrudge you enjoying the later part of the evening if you want to have that sort of thing but I do object when you want to drag it into shows before the deadline as well! That is just greedy!

I must apologise Ratzakli, I didn't realise that "knickers" was a word only suitable for use after the watershed. I think the BBC should rethink screening the "Carry On" films in the afternoons as well. "Knickers" and other unsuitable innuendoes are liberally sprinkled through those films and they are regularly shown at times when children are likely to be watching. Obviously another source of depravity that we need to take the BBC up on.
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Seriously?

I can't believe people have got their knickers in such a twist over this!!

Oh-oh! I apologise for my lewdness.



I doubt hearing knickers on tv is going to turn a good kid into a monster so whats the problem?? Sheesh.

I wish all the folks who got outraged by such inanity got riled up about stuff in the real world this much.

We just object to the soul being sucked out of television by puritanical, boring, beige individuals desperate to impose their drearily conservative views on the entire population.

Ah, dripdrier... I think I'm in love!!!

Just one point. As all the dresses are built on to a leotard, She probably wasn't wearing knickers anyway. So she couldn't take up Len's siggestion.

If by soul you mean lewd sexist remarks and gratuitous profanities the I am another "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells"

If you read my comments again, you'll see I was commenting about the behaviour in general, not just the word "knickers".

I'm a bit sad that you seem to give the impression that you aren't able to enjoy a show if it doesn't have an "edge" to it.

Love,

Apropos to SCD, it is unclear how this would apply. If it got any more wholesome, it would induce diabetes.

Whenever Matt and Christine dance I either fall asleep or go and make tea. I therefore think think that Len's pant ripping off advice was actually a good and helpful idea .I would rather the Cutler get naked than Christine though . I think I speak for many when I sat that.

...in tag-team with Ian Waite. Nicole never stood a chance, innit...

Yum, though

I was more annoyed by Len saying that he wants to go home and that he's had enough than I was about the comment he made to Christine. If he's sick of being a judge, then he should leave the show and let someone else step in. There's no need to sound as if he's doing the world a favour!

Just seen it on iplayer. The comment was fine clearly a joke. Why on earth len went for craig and then carried on and on I have no idea! Like I was watching wife swap!

Listen, what you have to understand there are some right wierdos, sometimes bordering on the psychotic in their opinions and reactions to anything that is said or happens on SCD.
I seriously worry for the human race after reading 80% of the posts on here

I can't believe this thread! Are we still talking about Strictly Come Dancing???? Lewd broadcasting????

How can anyone compare what Len Goodman has said with the Brand/Ross thing????

And rattling on about 'Family entertainment'???

You are up in arms about Len's comments, but you don't mind your children watching female dancers wearing very little with quite a bit of their assets on show???

It's not CBeebies!

Do you think children don't use the word knickers in the playground??? How many of you sang the rhyme about jump up and down wave your knickers in the air in the playground??

Why didn't you all complain about Craig using the word lewd last week about R&V's rumba?

Or all the jokes about queens, etc???

Or Arlene and her drooling over male celebs???

I know some of you want Len to go, but this is stooping so low is smacks of desperation!

I'm not in favour of swearing on TV either, but to use Strictly as an bad example of Family Entertainment is frankly quite ridiculous.

And as for the saying you are part of the 'silent majority'...

Well it's not like I was offended or anything, it just wasn't funny. He seemed a bit crazy last night, he said that and then he started screaming at Craig (I wasn't paying enough attention to know why), thought he was going to have a heart attack or something.