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House training a puppy
SamW25
23-11-2008
is all I can say

I've had him for just 3 days and he's doing my head in already

He is p*ssing literally EVERYWHERE except where those nappy sheet things down, which there must be about 2 or 3 in each room.

We've been pointing to his wee and tapping his nose then putting him on his mat as people have said but not once has he still gone on his mat, when apparently it should take just 1 afternoon to get him to figure out.

He isn't old enough to go out yet, he hasn't had his injections. He's 6-7 weeks, I'm not sure on the exact date. Does anyone have any advice at all?

Thanks in advance
DaisyBumbleroot
23-11-2008
maybe he is a thicko!?
fat controller
23-11-2008
Arm yourself with a bottle of spray that deodorises the carpet for a start - you can get it in supermarkets or pet stores - which will stop him going back to his own scent again and again.

Then, whenever he pees lift him and plonk him on the nappy mat - if needs be, resort to bribery, and give him a small treat even if he only dribbles on the mat. The key is to not make a big thing of accidents, clean up and almost ignore them to start with - but to make a big thing when he does it in the right place, lots of praise and a wee treat.

We're coming to the back end of this routine with our pup - he knows to use his mat by the back door now - we're just struggling to get him to make the break to outside (he is only a wee thing, and seems to really feel the cold. I'm hoping that we can get him lead trained and get out for walks over the next week or so, which might help with this though.

Does your pup sleep in the same room as you at night? The reason I ask is that Smudge used to have his bed in our room, but got into the habit of coming to get praise when he had piddled on his mat - far from ideal at 2am when we were asleep though! He know sleeps in the dining room, and although he made a bit of a fuss for half an hour the first night, it has now become part of his routine.

EDIT - I would suggest losing some of the mats as well - too many will be confusing him - have one in the room that you are in to start with, then move it toward the door, and then toward the outside door.
SamW25
23-11-2008
Originally Posted by fat controller:
“Arm yourself with a bottle of spray that deodorises the carpet for a start - you can get it in supermarkets or pet stores - which will stop him going back to his own scent again and again.

Then, whenever he pees lift him and plonk him on the nappy mat - if needs be, resort to bribery, and give him a small treat even if he only dribbles on the mat. The key is to not make a big thing of accidents, clean up and almost ignore them to start with - but to make a big thing when he does it in the right place, lots of praise and a wee treat.

We're coming to the back end of this routine with our pup - he knows to use his mat by the back door now - we're just struggling to get him to make the break to outside (he is only a wee thing, and seems to really feel the cold. I'm hoping that we can get him lead trained and get out for walks over the next week or so, which might help with this though.

Does your pup sleep in the same room as you at night? The reason I ask is that Smudge used to have his bed in our room, but got into the habit of coming to get praise when he had piddled on his mat - far from ideal at 2am when we were asleep though! He know sleeps in the dining room, and although he made a bit of a fuss for half an hour the first night, it has now become part of his routine.

EDIT - I would suggest losing some of the mats as well - too many will be confusing him - have one in the room that you are in to start with, then move it toward the door, and then toward the outside door.”

We've got laminated floor down throughout the downstairs (he isn't allowed upstairs, theres a baby gate at the bottom of the stairs atm but he can somehow open it LOL) so the carpet thing isn't really a problem- just a bit of disinfectant in with some water and mop it up.

We do the lifting and plonking thing anyway but no success yet. I do like the idea of treats though, thanks for that, we're too thick to think of that . He does sleep in a different room (the dining room- same as yours) because its the only place where there's nothing he can chew during the night. For the idea of praise, we'll probably see in the morning and slowly stop rewarding. Well in theory anyway

The idea for the many mats was something recommended by a friend, keep 1 or 2 down in the main rooms he goes in (so the living room and dining room) and slowly get rid of them as he starts to use them until there's just one left.

Thanks for that advice though, it really is appreciated/helpful especially from someone who is doing the same thing atm (albeit at the other end) .
spongebobby
23-11-2008
With puppies you have to watch them at every minute they are awake. Trick is you should be where they are and never leave them alone until they've copped onto the fact of what the mats are for. When you're trying to get them used to their lead another tip is to put the other end of the lead around your ankle so they can't get far from you; handy if you're sitting down and that way they can't sneak off.

Puppies generally go pee within 10mins of drinking or eating; they also need to go the minute they wake up from any sleep, after playing or any activity. Best tip for training is 'patience'. I'm still using that 7 months on!!!
Trix71
24-11-2008
Originally Posted by spongebobby:
“With puppies you have to watch them at every minute they are awake. Trick is you should be where they are and never leave them alone until they've copped onto the fact of what the mats are for. When you're trying to get them used to their lead another tip is to put the other end of the lead around your ankle so they can't get far from you; handy if you're sitting down and that way they can't sneak off.

Puppies generally go pee within 10mins of drinking or eating; they also need to go the minute they wake up from any sleep, after playing or any activity. Best tip for training is 'patience'. I'm still using that 7 months on!!!”

Best advice... i was going to say exactly the same. I had my pup dry within a few days. Its just a case of observing the pup. You will find out that look of puzzlement... where now? And take them out straight away.

Accidents happen.. Don't get angry... No point... puppy doesn't know.

One other tip... Don't say good girl/boy after they have done a poo or wee... i say good wee/poo... and give them a great big fuss.
If you say good girl after doing a wee/poo... they might preempt you next time when you say good girl/boy
duffystev
24-11-2008
My pup did 2 wee's in the house. I took him outside after he woke and 1/2 hour after each feed.

I used the words wee, and on completion gave him a treat. For no 2 I used the hurryups and on completion gave him a treat.

Within 10 days he was asking to go out. I have with 5 dogs, all Alsations, over 30 years never used training pads.

He's 3 1/2 now and has never done a mess in the house. Just recently he had the skits, he woke us up 3 times during the night to go out.

Of course you can take him outside before his injections, just not with other dogs. They have immunity from the mother.

After his business now he still runs up for praise and is happy that he's done his toilet.

My wife and I did shifts during his first few weeks to give him his house training.

Remember it's not his fault but yours. It's hard work but the first few weeks are the most important.

Take him outside, he will enjoy the smells and will soon get used to it. He will associate the smells with his toilet.
duffystev
24-11-2008
Originally Posted by SamW25:
“ is all I can say

I've had him for just 3 days and he's doing my head in already

He is p*ssing literally EVERYWHERE except where those nappy sheet things down, which there must be about 2 or 3 in each room.

We've been pointing to his wee and tapping his nose then putting him on his mat as people have said but not once has he still gone on his mat, when apparently it should take just 1 afternoon to get him to figure out.

He isn't old enough to go out yet, he hasn't had his injections. He's 6-7 weeks, I'm not sure on the exact date. Does anyone have any advice at all?

Thanks in advance ”

He's just left his mum who would clean up after him. You're his mum now.

Tapping his nose is not praise but punishment.

Encouragement is what he needs. Treats will give him that not nose tapping.

I'm quite sad that he is getting punishment so soon after leaving his mum.
duffystev
24-11-2008
Originally Posted by DaisyBumbleroot:
“maybe he is a thicko!?”


Not the right answer
TWS
24-11-2008
6-7 weeks he should not have really left his mother but clearly it's done now. I personally would not use puppy pads you are only teaching him to pee indoors and will end up with the same problem once you try to teach him to go outside.

Take him outside after he wakes up after he eats after he drinks after play time you will be out there most ofthe day wait till he has gone treat praise then start again.

There is no point being negative and tapping him on the nose he has no idea where he is supposed to be and no concept of right or wrong perhaps you should tap yourself on the nose instead for every time you get it wrong and he pees over the floor
jessica~rabbit
24-11-2008
Originally Posted by TWS:
“6-7 weeks he should not have really left his mother but clearly it's done now. I personally would not use puppy pads you are only teaching him to pee indoors and will end up with the same problem once you try to teach him to go outside.

Take him outside after he wakes up after he eats after he drinks after play time you will be out there most ofthe day wait till he has gone treat praise then start again.

There is no point being negative and tapping him on the nose he has no idea where he is supposed to be and no concept of right or wrong perhaps you should tap yourself on the nose instead for every time you get it wrong and he pees over the floor”

pups also dont have any idea how to controll their body functions, as we've discovered - my poor neighbours leg got piddled on when loki got a bit excited!
he doing his peeps and poops outside for the most part after doing the same things that TWS has suggested here, and we only got him on 11/11. he just has wee whoopsies in the morning if we dont get up soon enough and on the odd occasion for the hell of it lol.

am now just having issues with him being manically HYPER
but thats another thread lol
TWS
24-11-2008
all pups are the same as me bladder the size of a pea so they go a lot

Originally Posted by jessica~rabbit:
“pups also dont have any idea how to controll their body functions, as we've discovered - my poor neighbours leg got piddled on when loki got a bit excited! ”

duffystev
24-11-2008
No response from the OP yet I see.
jessica~rabbit
24-11-2008
Originally Posted by duffystev:
“No response from the OP yet I see.”

lol, not everyone is online everyday - some people have a life. anyone remember what 'a life' is?
ejm
24-11-2008
I don't know of any pup that has taken 1 afternoon to be housetrained

As has been said, take him outside, probably every hour, praise him like mad when he does go to the toilet, and ignore any accidents. 6-7 weeks is very young, and puppies would normally still be with their mum at this age.

Good luck, I think you are in for a few more weeks of accidents yet though. All part and parcel of owning a pup
SamW25
25-11-2008
Originally Posted by ejm:
“I don't know of any pup that has taken 1 afternoon to be housetrained ”

Not full house training in 1 afternoon, but apparently they can figure out where they should be going in that time.

Anyway a bit of progress has been made, at first we're just trying to get him to wee on the mats and then we'll start with the outside. About 6 times out of 10 he will now use the mat for a wee but he has never had a poo on the floor. But he has tried going on the welcome mat, so at least he now knows to not go on the floor even if its on the wrong mat The reason for using the mats is just so he knows not to go on the floor inside the house, then we'll start training him to go outside.

Its not been as hard as I thought though, again thanks a lot to anyone who has left any advice
fi~
25-11-2008
my dog never bothered with the puppy training pads, so we ended up dotting bits of newspaper around instead and he didnt have a problem with using that
duffystev
27-11-2008
Originally Posted by SamW25:
“Not full house training in 1 afternoon, but apparently they can figure out where they should be going in that time.

Anyway a bit of progress has been made, at first we're just trying to get him to wee on the mats and then we'll start with the outside. About 6 times out of 10 he will now use the mat for a wee but he has never had a poo on the floor. But he has tried going on the welcome mat, so at least he now knows to not go on the floor even if its on the wrong mat The reason for using the mats is just so he knows not to go on the floor inside the house, then we'll start training him to go outside.

Its not been as hard as I thought though, again thanks a lot to anyone who has left any advice ”


Once he starts using the mat on a regular basis that's what he's been trained to do.
It will be more difficult to re-train him to do it outside.

Are you working and leaving the puppy on its own?.

I would advise you start again and get him trained outside. An odd mistake inside is acceptable but not his fault.

Please see my previous post and posts from TWS. Says it all from experienced dog owners.
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