No, and it made me cry too.

I do understand your frustration, but as someone who really has made an effort not to be critical of those celebs who I don't like as much on a personal basis (rather than on the basis of the dances they perform), I do get a bit frustrated at the amount of personality-based criticism that is leveled at Christine (although I don't think she is by any means the only one about whom this is true.) I also find it slightly harsh to carry on judging someone on a reaction to the result of their second dance. I would argue that Christine has grown in confidence since then and is now taking criticism much better. But I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. You don't like her personality. I do. And we each have our reasons. So feel free to carry on criticising her, but I'm afraid I'm going to carry on defending her.

Nah, that won't happen. Austin's head has grown too large by all reports and now he can't get out of his training room. It's all very tragic.

Tom has been suffocated by his smuggness - that or his's pulled one face too many and the wind has changed, so now he's stuck like that and they've carted him off to Holby for emergency treatment.

Lisa is too busy finding a new famous boyfriend to prop up her celebrity status when she's not hiding from angry Brendan.

That only leaves Rachel, but no-one even noticed her there because she's such a blank, non-entity, so Tess took home the glitterball because she needed another bookend to match her CIN trophy



Topic: I think it's all pretty much unpredictable. Maybe objectively you can tell who is technically good at dancing, but when it comes to subjective aspects like personality, journies, parterships everyone is never going to agree, I see one thing, you see another (maybe some people are looking) but we all get to vote and that makes it exciting.

Trouble is the use of language.
I see the word "outclassed" and want to spring to her defence. Not because I think she's special but because it typifies the disparaging comparisons that seem to be made so often.

Someone has to be the worst dancer. That does not mean she should stay or go. There is no "ought to" about it. Otherwise the weaker dancers should throw themselves on their swords early-doors and rondée off. Not that you could do that with a sword sticking out of your belly though. Maybe...

So her cha-cha wasn't great. No need to stick the knife in. She got bottom marks but escaped the dance-off due to getting lots of votes.

What is the big deal about that? Do we have to grind her into the parquet floor just because she has the temerity to TRY?

That's fair enough and I'm happy to agree to disagree on the subject - I don't usually like negative opinions of other people so I know how some feel. However something about Christine and her large amount of support pushes my buttons I think it's because so much of her support seems based on a lovely personality that I don't see. For me there is just something I can't quite define that I find a bit false about her on the whole and a lot of people say they vote for her on that basis and the belief that isn't as competitive as everyone else which I don't share and I don't want to see her win on what I think is a false assumption. That said a lot is in the eye of the beholder and I'll accept I could be wrong. The fact if you have the right to 'tell' someone how to vote is moot and it's like preaching abstinence from sex at teenagers whatever the rights and wrongs they're not going to listen and are actually more likely to do to defie you. I've put in a highly contraversal vote last year so I can't really complain about it either.

It's selfish but I would have liked to seen Jodie stay in for this week at least to see her tango much as I think it was a pity we didn't see Don's paso (especially since I haven't liked a single paso this year) and I would happily have seen Christine or Lisa go in her place.

Okay, I think this probably counts as the most sensible post on this thread so far!


Ah, now there I think you may have hit on something we can agree on. I too was sorry to see Jodie leave and would have loved to see her tango. I would quite happily have seen Lisa go, and actually thought Jodie out-danced her in the dance off (although possibly not the original performance). (I really wasn't agreeing with the judges at all this weekend. )

As I mentioned on another thread during the JS debacle, I can completely understand why someone would be upset if their favourite was knocked out in favour of an apparently less competent but superficially more engaging competitor. I would have been very upset had Jodie or Christine gone while John had been saved. But I personally don't think the difference between Jodie and Christine in terms of skill/charm is so wide as that between John and the rest of the field before he stepped down, so I am less unhappy about the perceived injustice. Both deserved a chance to go through as much as the other in my view (but that is very much my view. )

By the way, I think I may have misread you, but I do hope you don't think I would ever tell you, or anyone else, how to vote. I will quite happily explain and defend how I choose to vote but I wouldn't presume to assume that that would ever influence anyone else's choice.