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Foxsat-HDR Bugs Thread [Merged]
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pebbledash
05-12-2008
As an aside to the last message, while it is apparent you can record 2 programmes and also watch (some) third programmes, how do we know it is making the 2 recordings off of 1 tuner.
Could it not be that the PVR automatically user 1 tuner per recording, whatever.
I have been given to believe there may be future updates that might allow 4 recordings at once. perhaps 2 each on each of 2 TPs.
Any pearls of wisdom on this front?
grahamlthompson
05-12-2008
Originally Posted by pebbledash:
“As an aside to the last message, while it is apparent you can record 2 programmes and also watch (some) third programmes, how do we know it is making the 2 recordings off of 1 tuner.
Could it not be that the PVR automatically user 1 tuner per recording, whatever.
I have been given to believe there may be future updates that might allow 4 recordings at once. perhaps 2 each on each of 2 TPs.
Any pearls of wisdom on this front?”

Because if you record two programmes from the same transponder you can watch and time shift any other channel, this is only possible if a spare tuner is available.

See

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=945869
Bob Warriner
05-12-2008
Originally Posted by carvell:
“Did it to me again yesterday! This time though, I had rewound live TV and was merrily watching it 10mins behind live tv, but when it got to the end of the programme that was airing in live time, the box jumped straight to live tv, meaning I had to rewind again to get back to where I was watching.”

Thats exactly my observation, but you described it better.
I have never known my PVR-9200T do that.
If it's a "PVR thing" it's not very good and I feel it should be addressed.
I will wait for a while to see how many of us complain about this issue before reporting it to Humax.
Bob.
grahamlthompson
05-12-2008
Originally Posted by Bob Warriner:
“Thats exactly my observation, but you described it better.
I have never known my PVR-9200T do that.
If it's a "PVR thing" it's not very good and I feel it should be addressed.
I will wait for a while to see how many of us complain about this issue before reporting it to Humax.
Bob.”

The 9200T used to do the same on the earlier firmware and it was fixed on v21
Bob Warriner
05-12-2008
Originally Posted by Panman1300:
“I believe that the 9200T does jump back to the broadcast stream when the recording is finished and you were watching a 'time slipped' version. I soon learnt to always watch the recording file in these circumstances.”

Panman.
Have a look at Carvell's later message for a better description of what we mean, he describes the problem better than I did.
I know what you mean, but that wasn't what I was complaining about, we were watching live TV that had been rewound for the sake of a person walking into the room, as soon as the live TV program had finished, what we were watching jumped to live TV, the shift was around 15 minutes, this meant that I had to rewind again to watch the last 15 minutes.
Bob.
Bob Warriner
06-12-2008
Originally Posted by son_t:
“It doesn't do this with and instant record (and watched from the Playlist). Tested this the other day, and came to the conclusion that in some certain circumstances it does drop you out to live TV but not all the time...

(So when it does - it must be a 'PVR' thing...)”

I agree, I tested those functions last night with no problems.
With me, It only happens when rewinding "live TV".
As all PVR advertising blurb mentioned the "feature" of being able to "rewind live TV", this shouldn't happen.
And as I have said before, it has never happened to my PVR-9200T which I have used since launch using that feature extensively.
Bob.
Last edited by Bob Warriner : 06-12-2008 at 06:46
son_t
06-12-2008
I would like to get to the bottom of this when I have time...

But rewinding the live buffer for me does not drop me out to live TV, as the recording and viewing becomes one continuous buffer, so it doesn't happen. Maybe be it drops you out if you pause it for more than the buffer (of 2 hours)...
Bob Warriner
06-12-2008
Originally Posted by son_t:
“I would like to get to the bottom of this when I have time...

But rewinding the live buffer for me does not drop me out to live TV, as the recording and viewing becomes one continuous buffer, so it doesn't happen. Maybe be it drops you out if you pause it for more than the buffer (of 2 hours)...”

OK, that would be very welcome.
I can confirm that I was not using the pause facility.
It was a simple case of my wife catching up on what I was watching, rewound to the beginning of the program and when the live transmission finished jumped to live TV even though we were watching 10 minutes behind, had to rewind again to watch the 10 missing minutes.
I guess we will have to wait for further comments on this, It could be a fault on my particular box (and Carvel's)
Bob.
wastedyuthe
06-12-2008
I can't remember if something has been said about this already.

Twice now in the past few days, I have got rather fed up with items in my schedule disappearing just because my box told me there was channel updates and it needs to rescan. After the first time, I checked my schedule and all 8 programs had vanished, so I had to do it all again.
I have just switched on this morning with it saying the same thing. So I rescan again, and all but two of my scheduled recordings have gone. Why have those two survived? Why do they get removed anyway, when after the scan those programs are still available on the same channel at the same time?
One of my shows was The IT Crowd, and when I went to "Find" it (I searched for "IT", "CROWD", and "IT CROWD"), it couldn't find it at all, and I had to find the program myself in the Table view, which made me more angry.
Are we going to have to put up with re-scheduling recordings EVERY time the box wants to rescan?
VERY annoying.
richard_g_uk
06-12-2008
I've done two channel re-scans since I have had it to update the channel list and not noticed anything strange with disappearing reservations.
ovbg
06-12-2008
Extremely interested in this box, but one bug does seem to bother me.

Some people are saying that when viewing via RGB it cuts off part of the picture. Is this a common problem to all with RGB connections, or just with some TV sets (what sets are affected then)?

At the moment, I only have a Philips widescreen SD CRT set, but will of course update one day to HD. Until then, I prefer to use the RGB Scart connection as it seems to have the best quality image.
richard_g_uk
06-12-2008
Originally Posted by ovbg:
“Some people are saying that when viewing via RGB it cuts off part of the picture. Is this a common problem to all with RGB connections, or just with some TV sets (what sets are affected then)?”

I have this issue with the right hand side cut-off however it may be just my setup. To elaborate further.

I have a Toshiba CRT (until I uprgade to a Freesat integrated set next year) but as it only has one RGB scart enabled in order to feed the myriad of equipment I have the TV scart is connected to an auto switcher that takes 4 scarts.

1 SCART is connected to a VHS recorder (ancient I know but occassionally use it record things of cable as I only have a standard V box in my room)

1 SCART is connected to a Virgin V Box.

1 SCART is connected to a DVD Player.

And Finally, the remaining SCART is connected to a Thomson DHD4000 PVR. The VCR socket of the Thomson supports RGB pass through and is connected to the Humax Foxsat TV SCART. Finally I have a FTA satellite box which is connected to the VCR socket of the Humax. It was done this way as the Humax specs seem to indicate the VCR socket does not support RGB pass through (just Composite and S-Video) and with the FTA box only giving a composite output it doesn't affect the quality.

So without disrupting my setup completely and trying the Humax directly in the back of the TV I cannot vouch that it is actually the Humax at fault. Next time I move stuff around and need to mess around the back of the TV I may connect it directly just to see.
Bob Warriner
06-12-2008
Originally Posted by richard_g_uk:
“I have this issue with the right hand side cut-off however it may be just my setup. To elaborate further.

I have a Toshiba CRT (until I uprgade to a Freesat integrated set next year) but as it only has one RGB scart enabled in order to feed the myriad of equipment I have the TV scart is connected to an auto switcher that takes 4 scarts.

1 SCART is connected to a VHS recorder (ancient I know but occassionally use it record things of cable as I only have a standard V box in my room)

1 SCART is connected to a Virgin V Box.

1 SCART is connected to a DVD Player.

And Finally, the remaining SCART is connected to a Thomson DHD4000 PVR. The VCR socket of the Thomson supports RGB pass through and is connected to the Humax Foxsat TV SCART. Finally I have a FTA satellite box which is connected to the VCR socket of the Humax. It was done this way as the Humax specs seem to indicate the VCR socket does not support RGB pass through (just Composite and S-Video) and with the FTA box only giving a composite output it doesn't affect the quality.

So without disrupting my setup completely and trying the Humax directly in the back of the TV I cannot vouch that it is actually the Humax at fault. Next time I move stuff around and need to mess around the back of the TV I may connect it directly just to see.”

I think you may well find that connecting directly will cure the problem, scart switchers and having them connected in an "auto" configuration can cause picture shifting problems like yours in my experience.
Bob.
Last edited by Bob Warriner : 06-12-2008 at 15:05
ovbg
06-12-2008
Thanks for the update guys.

Looks like this won't be an issue for me. I just have to find a place that has them in stock now :O)
daveac
06-12-2008
Originally Posted by markt22m:
“Unfortunately not, I already had a loop through connected. For some reason, this is not active / doesn't work when updating the box from firmware 1.0.01.”

Just a thought - reading through the thread as I hope to get one of these boxes soon (I do have 2 connections)

But if users of older systems have of of those small F-Connection switch boxes - 1 input - 2 outputs - they could use that.

Just flick the manual switch from feed 1 to feed 2 when you need the firmware update.

Cheers, daveac
CanonMan
07-12-2008
Hi, Just discovered that this bug which was in the HD is in the HDR as well.

If you scroll up and down the channels using the channel control at the right hand side of the remote you get a statement something like this. "The box is going to shut down in 1 minute" with an option to select OK or Cancel.
Automan
07-12-2008
A lot of the bugs on the "HD" model do indded seem to have been copied over

Media view navigation...
In Video view if you navigate into a subfolder e.g. Heroes and just press enter on the .. dots for the parent you are returned to that item on the main list...

If however you enter the Heroes folder again and navigate up/down the list of recordings and then press enter on the .. dot you are returned to the top of the list of folders rather than Heroes.

My machine also has 67% used up and I dont think I have enough recordings to add up to that value.

It would be handy if you could see the size of each recording in gigs or as a percentage.

Automan.
dat
07-12-2008
Had two programs fail to record yesterday

Strictly come dancing (series linked on BBC HD - definitely setup ok as next weeks show is still marked to record)

Second episode of Malcolm in the middle (BBC2) - the first episode recorded OK, and the 2 episodes due to show next week are marked to record

In both cases there was no indication of why the recording failed (nothing at all on the media list).

Anyone else been having recordings just not recording? I'm wondering if there's some common pattern that would make it easier for Humax to reproduce and fix, or it's something specific to my setup

Hoping Humax will be able to fix soon - I've had to reconnect up the old Sky+ box as the wife won't trust the Humax any more - but the sub on that runs out in a couple of weeks
richard_g_uk
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by dat:
“Had two programs fail to record yesterday

Strictly come dancing (series linked on BBC HD - definitely setup ok as next weeks show is still marked to record)

Second episode of Malcolm in the middle (BBC2) - the first episode recorded OK, and the 2 episodes due to show next week are marked to record

In both cases there was no indication of why the recording failed (nothing at all on the media list).

Anyone else been having recordings just not recording? I'm wondering if there's some common pattern that would make it easier for Humax to reproduce and fix, or it's something specific to my setup

Hoping Humax will be able to fix soon - I've had to reconnect up the old Sky+ box as the wife won't trust the Humax any more - but the sub on that runs out in a couple of weeks”

Not had a series link failure however I had Jimmy Carr fail on channel 4 Friday night. There does seem to be a separate thread running concerning recording failures:-

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=947023
grahamlthompson
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by dat:
“Had two programs fail to record yesterday

Strictly come dancing (series linked on BBC HD - definitely setup ok as next weeks show is still marked to record)

Second episode of Malcolm in the middle (BBC2) - the first episode recorded OK, and the 2 episodes due to show next week are marked to record

In both cases there was no indication of why the recording failed (nothing at all on the media list).

Anyone else been having recordings just not recording? I'm wondering if there's some common pattern that would make it easier for Humax to reproduce and fix, or it's something specific to my setup

Hoping Humax will be able to fix soon - I've had to reconnect up the old Sky+ box as the wife won't trust the Humax any more - but the sub on that runs out in a couple of weeks”

As a workaraound until series recording settles down. If you set start and end times to -2min and +2min and then record only the one programme (thus ignoring series link) it works every time. If you set say 3 programmes in sequence the foxsat is clever enough to drop the padding at the end of the first programme and the start of the third.
johnwomble
07-12-2008
I'd like to be the second to add a packaging bug. At some stage with the courier coming from London to Cork my HDR burst out of the box.
Despite the hop it must have got it works perfectly.
Noce to have a HD PVR that can fast forward faster than 12X maybe Sky could learn something from that.
I would also like to be able to view/record a non Freesat channel without deleting all my scheduled recordings.
awo1949
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by johnwomble:
“I would also like to be able to view/record a non Freesat channel without deleting all my scheduled recordings.”

You can. It is only scanning for non-freesat channels that causes the schedules to vanish. It's safe to view them once they have been scanned. Just make sure you return the box to freesat mode after watching a non-freesat channel. The schedules will be ignored if you leave the box in non-freesat mode
dat
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by richard_g_uk:
“Not had a series link failure however I had Jimmy Carr fail on channel 4 Friday night. There does seem to be a separate thread running concerning recording failures:-

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=947023”

No, this failure was unrelated to that issue - there was nothing else being recorded at the time.
sam p
08-12-2008
Originally Posted by Automan:
“A lot of the bugs on the "HD" model do indded seem to have been copied over


My machine also has 67% used up and I dont think I have enough recordings to add up to that value.

It would be handy if you could see the size of each recording in gigs or as a percentage.

Automan.”


I have also recorded a fair amount of material so far and some of which is HD but I am gettting a little concerned by the speed at which the memory is being used up. With the christmas period coming I want to gather as much of the BBC HD offering as possible to fill in some of the unfortunate periods of the spring weekends when there is no HD output.

Any idea what the memory usage for say 1 hour of 1080i HD is ?
grahamlthompson
08-12-2008
Originally Posted by sam p:
“I have also recorded a fair amount of material so far and some of which is HD but I am gettting a little concerned by the speed at which the memory is being used up. With the christmas period coming I want to gather as much of the BBC HD offering as possible to fill in some of the unfortunate periods of the spring weekends when there is no HD output.

Any idea what the memory usage for say 1 hour of 1080i HD is ?”

Based on the estimated space left I reckon BBC HD runs out at around 10gB per hour and ITV HD less (lower bit rate). A screen display of recorded file sizes is one of the features I have requested.
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