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Old 24-11-2008, 16:01
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She is too similar in style too Leona, but Leona is 10 times better. (I love them both by the way)

I think Alexandra will have a good career anyway as she is talented , but her being compared to leona will damage her in the long run if she wins.

Which leaves the rest..... they are all pretty poor if you think about it. I think they could all have some chart success, but ultimately they will fade away like Garath Gates, Shayne Ward.

The artists that appear in tv talent shows and do well all have excellent voices that carry them through. Will Young, Girls aloud, Leona, Lemar.
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:03
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She is too similar in style too Leona, but Leona is 10 times better. (I love them both by the way)
This is said a lot but it's true. She is nowhere near to having a voice like Leona's. It's too rough for for a true soul/RnB voice.
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:16
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Would people please stop comparing Leona and Alex! If you know anything about music you will realise that they are very very different singers. Because they sing in the same genre and are both black DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME! By constantly comparing them, you're just showing how little you actually know about music/talent!
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:29
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Would people please stop comparing Leona and Alex! If you know anything about music you will realise that they are very very different singers. Because they sing in the same genre and are both black DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME! By constantly comparing them, you're just showing how little you actually know about music/talent!
Sorry I disagree and seeing as I am black, i don't think i am comparing them due to their colour.

I compare them as they are both powerful female vocalists that are more likely to sing ballads then R&B.

If you don't think they are similar then that is your business, but don't come here running off your chops and saying i don't know anything.
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:32
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I agree i love Alex (not as much as Ruth). I do believe that she is similar to Leona, but anyway GO ALEXANDRA and GO RUTH!!!
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:42
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Sorry I disagree and seeing as I am black, i don't think i am comparing them due to their colour.

I compare them as they are both powerful female vocalists that are more likely to sing ballads then R&B.

If you don't think they are similar then that is your business, but don't come here running off your chops and saying i don't know anything.
Clearly you don't, Alex has sung more Up-tempo songs than anyone else on this series, so i think that well and truely puts that argument out of the window.

Are you telling me that you could ever see Leona singing Candyman? the answer is no.

To be honest i don't judge people based on the colour of their skin, it makes no difference 2 me if your black, white or purple, however because you yourself are black that doesn't mean you can't be guilty of piegon-holeing people just the same as everybody else.

If you actually listen to both Leona and Alex sing you will realise that they both have very different style's.
Alex has a better lower register and has a more soulful & powerful tone, she also has the charisma and energy to nail an up-tempo song.

Leona has the voice of an angel, incredable upper register and beautiful light tone, is one of the best at belting out ballads in the world IMO.

To say that they are to halves of the same whole is ridiculous in my mind, its like saying Rhydian and Paul Potts are the exact same because they both sing Opera.
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:44
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She should win.

If she doesn't, hopefully Ruth will.
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:48
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Alexandra's voice is amazing, totally faultless most of the time. I can't warm to her, but she is probably vocally the best there. A week ago, I would have said she couldn't win, but now, I think the competition is really close. I can see any of the final 5 winning.
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:50
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Clearly you don't, Alex has sung more Up-tempo songs than anyone else on this series, so i think that well and truely puts that argument out of the window.

Are you telling me that you could ever see Leona singing Candyman? the answer is no.

To be honest i don't judge people based on the colour of their skin, it makes no difference 2 me if your black, white or purple, however because you yourself are black that doesn't mean you can't be guilty of piegon-holeing people just the same as everybody else.

If you actually listen to both Leona and Alex sing you will realise that they both have very different style's.
Alex has a better lower register and has a more soulful & powerful tone, she also has the charisma and energy to nail an up-tempo song.

Leona has the voice of an angel, incredable upper register and beautiful light tone, is one of the best at belting out ballads in the world IMO.

To say that they are to halves of the same whole is ridiculous in my mind, its like saying Rhydian and Paul Potts are the exact same because they both sing Opera.
We can have this argument all night if you want, but whether its Alex with a lower register and Leona with a higher register, they will be compared and Alexandra will lose out.

If you have 2 female winners back to back, both with powerful voices, people will compare the two. its not pigeon holing, its a fact.

I would love Alexandra to win as i have stated in other posts, but i think it will damage her more in the long run if she does. She will not have the same impact here or in the US as Leona and will fall by the wayside. If she goes it alone they can work on material that will seperate her as an artist.

Like I said you can argue with me all night, but I know i am not speaking BS.
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Old 24-11-2008, 16:57
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We can have this argument all night if you want, but whether its Alex with a lower register and Leona with a higher register, they will be compared and Alexandra will lose out.

If you have 2 female winners back to back, both with powerful voices, people will compare the two. its not pigeon holing, its a fact.

I would love Alexandra to win as i have stated in other posts, but i think it will damage her more in the long run if she does. She will not have the same impact here or in the US as Leona and will fall by the wayside. If she goes it alone they can work on material that will seperate her as an artist.

Like I said you can argue with me all night, but I know i am not speaking BS.

Well i think you are being as Leona won the show 2 years ago so therefore it wouldn't be back 2 back would it!

And there's no point comparing everyone that ever goes on X factor to Leona, nobody will ever achieve as much as she has through being on XF, to call her a 1 off is an under-statement.

I think there is more than enough room in the BRITISH music industry for Alex, there isn't many artists out there that can sing and dance the way she does. Wether she will have any form of success in the US remains to be seen but i think she has a shot because she has everything that you need to make it there, so we'll have to wait and see.
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Old 24-11-2008, 17:10
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Alex shouldnt be compared to leona they are totaly different !

Alex should Win , can win and hopefull will win
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Old 24-11-2008, 18:54
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Alex can do uptempo songs. So there is definitely a market for both.

Get her and Leona to sing "I'm Outta Love" by Anastacia and see which one does it better. Having said that, we already have an Anastacia...
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Old 24-11-2008, 19:14
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Alex and Leona are nothing alike-unless you can say that being a amazing vocalist is being the same aside from that not really!

Alex is more likely to go down the beyonce route whereas leona is more a mariah type.there is totally room in this industry for both, i don't see the problem shouldn't we be proud to have 2 young really talented girls representing our country and music?

and as for the US can alex break it-totally!
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Old 24-11-2008, 19:32
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Comparing Alexandra to Leona is like comparing a Ford Focus to an Astin Martin DB9.
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Old 24-11-2008, 19:39
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and as for the US can alex break it-totally!
Dream, dream, dream ...

In the highly unlikely event that Alex wins the x-factor (but really, she won't) she wouldn't stand a hope in hell of breaking America.

The only person to ever come from a UK reality contest who had a chance of breaking America has been Leona. Alex would have trouble even emulating the "success" of Michelle McManus or Leon Jackson. One poorly performing single and album and then back to singing in bars or touring musicals - at best!
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Old 24-11-2008, 19:48
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Alex is my second fav.
I thin kshe has a big chance of winning the show, and I don't see Leona in her.
Because she's coloured?

They're voices are different, and so are their personalities.
I think Leona is more shy and reserved and Alex is more blubby and cheery.
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Old 24-11-2008, 19:56
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She won't win because Diana is golden girl.

There is no point voting or even watching by all accounts. Diana can do no wrong.

I hope they have people lined up to buy her records cos I wouldn't waste my money. It's cheaper to stand on the cat's tail and I won't do that either.
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Old 24-11-2008, 20:08
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Dream, dream, dream ...

In the highly unlikely event that Alex wins the x-factor (but really, she won't) she wouldn't stand a hope in hell of breaking America.

The only person to ever come from a UK reality contest who had a chance of breaking America has been Leona. Alex would have trouble even emulating the "success" of Michelle McManus or Leon Jackson. One poorly performing single and album and then back to singing in bars or touring musicals - at best!
we'll see
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Old 24-11-2008, 20:23
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This is said a lot but it's true. She is nowhere near to having a voice like Leona's. It's too rough for for a true soul/RnB voice.
You sound very young so I assume you don't know a lot about Soul/RnB singers. Otis Reading, Mavis Staples, Gladys Knight, Jennifer Holliday, Percy Sledge, Regina Belle, Martha Wash, the list goes on, they all had what you would unflatteringly refer to as a "rough voice". It's Alex's "deep, earthy, gospel voice" (a far more complementary description) that sets her apart from the likes of Leona and a load of other singers with big voices. I get the impression from your post that you think Rhianna is a soul singer. She's not.
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Old 24-11-2008, 20:38
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She should win.

If she doesn't, hopefully Ruth will.
That's my position on this too. I don't see the point in comparing one singer to another in this way - sure there are similarities...in the same way that apples and oranges are fruit...but that's pretty much it. I suppose they may wind up sharing the market if Alex does win, but so what?

I feel Ruth is the dark horse of the competition and I would be equally happy if she won it, as I would be if Alex did. So long as it isn't anyone OTHER than one of them, I will be fine. If someone else wins it, I'll be over in the corner with my head in the gin bottle. You can join me if you bring the tonic and the lemons.
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Old 24-11-2008, 20:38
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Comparing Alexandra to Leona is like comparing a Ford Focus to an Astin Martin DB9.
Fair enough. What is an Astin Martin BTW? It sounds like a a cheap, Malaysian knockoff of an Aston Martin and I think Leona deserves better than that. At the very least she's a cheap, knockoff of a Rolls Royce. Alexandra on the other hand is the real deal. She's an Aston Martin.

It's always funny when people think they know it all but fail to live up to their own hype.
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Old 24-11-2008, 20:39
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I don't think they are the same, i agree with what has been said about Alex being more uptempo.

Another thing is that whilst i like both of them i would not go to see Leona (happy to just listen on cd or tv) but i would Alex because she performs a whole lot better in my eyes.

Her performing skills are vastly better than Leona, part of that comes from the songs she sings but a big part is how innate it all seems to her and how effortlessly she can involve the performance with the songs. I think Leona would seriously struggle to perform like Alex can.
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Old 24-11-2008, 20:40
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You sound very young so I assume you don't know a lot about Soul/RnB singers. Otis Reading, Mavis Staples, Gladys Knight, Jennifer Holliday, Percy Sledge, Regina Belle, Martha Wash, the list goes on, they all had what you would unflatteringly refer to as a "rough voice". It's Alex's "deep, earthy, gospel voice" (a far more complementary description) that sets her apart from the likes of Leona and a load of other singers with big voices. I get the impression from your post that you think Rhianna is a soul singer. She's not.
I'm curious as to how someone can 'sound very young' on a forum.

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Old 24-11-2008, 20:43
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Alex can't compete with Diana.
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Old 24-11-2008, 20:49
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She is too similar in style too Leona, but Leona is 10 times better. (I love them both by the way)

I think Alexandra will have a good career anyway as she is talented , but her being compared to leona will damage her in the long run if she wins.

Which leaves the rest..... they are all pretty poor if you think about it. I think they could all have some chart success, but ultimately they will fade away like Garath Gates, Shayne Ward.

The artists that appear in tv talent shows and do well all have excellent voices that carry them through. Will Young, Girls aloud, Leona, Lemar.
Alexandra's voice is like a female Lemar. Rich, warm, expressive and souful.

Leona has flexibility and dexterity and a huge register but her tone is tinny, cold, soulless, emotionless and ultimately dull.

We can have this argument all night if you want, .

Some of us might but not you because you are demonstrating you don't have much of an idea about singers in the genre you are trying to debate.

If you thing Leona is a soul singer, I pity you.

Alexandra has a true soul voice in the real sense (and no one loves using the words "good, old-fashioned" quite like Simon). Leona has the weak, whiney tone of Mariah and others who pass for "soul" singers these days.

I'm curious as to how someone can 'sound very young' on a forum.
By the content of their posts.

I'm often thought to be older until people read my age - 17.

Clearly you don't, Alex has sung more Up-tempo songs than anyone else on this series, so i think that well and truely puts that argument out of the window.

Are you telling me that you could ever see Leona singing Candyman? the answer is no.

To be honest i don't judge people based on the colour of their skin, it makes no difference 2 me if your black, white or purple, however because you yourself are black that doesn't mean you can't be guilty of piegon-holeing people just the same as everybody else.

If you actually listen to both Leona and Alex sing you will realise that they both have very different style's.
Alex has a better lower register and has a more soulful & powerful tone, she also has the charisma and energy to nail an up-tempo song.

Leona has the voice of an angel, incredable upper register and beautiful light tone, is one of the best at belting out ballads in the world IMO.

To say that they are to halves of the same whole is ridiculous in my mind, its like saying Rhydian and Paul Potts are the exact same because they both sing Opera.
Great post. Thanks for saving me the effort

By the way, the idea of Leona singing Candyman is hilarious The idea of her performing it is even better. She can't even perform on the video for Forgive Me and that is a recorded, re-recorded and re-recorded again and many times edited video.

Comparing Alexandra to Leona is like comparing a Ford Focus to an Astin Martin DB9.
Absolutely,

Alexandra is the exciting luxury car to Leona's reliable but dull runaround.

Dream, dream, dream ...

In the highly unlikely event that Alex wins the x-factor (but really, she won't) she wouldn't stand a hope in hell of breaking America.

The only person to ever come from a UK reality contest who had a chance of breaking America has been Leona. Alex would have trouble even emulating the "success" of Michelle McManus or Leon Jackson. One poorly performing single and album and then back to singing in bars or touring musicals - at best!
I suggest you go back to your dream. Mind you, if Leona is in it, perhaps nightmare is a more appropriate description.
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