zig&chan appreciation thread (Part 3)

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CARA2000

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by BBfan!:
“I know this is OT but just wondered what you thought of my vid that has been uploaded to youie.

Its not chiggy, but Manda and Bri

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SdzpfIq7f4Q

be kind. ”

AAAAAh! that was lovely. Really like Brian and the twins. My favourite group this year. Zig, Chan, Brian, Twins without a doubt.

Joanne100

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by juliadesigns:
“agree totally with that because I am just as sad and did the same!

Where the printed form of the interview makes him appear hesitant and unsure, in fact it was because he kept getting interrupted by both the interviewers and Carole, which affected his train of thought.

He was also deflecting Carole from going off on one re Chan like he did frequently in the house after Chan left, but now with more confidence because he is now totally sure where Chan's affections lie, whereas when she left so badly, he had no idea what she might do, and thus was easier prey for Carole's insidiousness.

By the time he had shut Carole up, the interviewers had moved on to the next topic so some sentences were left trailing in the wind...

A longer more in-depth interview on his own would be much better for us fans, but dont know who would want to do it as there may not be enough interest outside fan circles.

In conclusion though, no amount of picking at half finished sentences or the like, alters the fact that he was pleased and proud to be talking about Chanelle, was gratified when the audience went Ahhh at the mention of Chiggy, and if Chan wants to abseil naked down Big Ben shouting I love Posh Spice, that will be fine by him!

He was clearly no longer very impressed by Carole...even though he said she had been the mother of the house, he also said that she had been very controlling (forgot that bit last night!)

He was very polite as always, but less familiar with her than he had been in ther house, and didnt bite at all when she harped on about dole, no deals, UB40s, JSA and having £15 to buy a dress in Matalan
Hopefully he wont have written her a cheque after the show which I think she was angling for!

As someone remarked above, Carole is no fool and has good organising and cleaning skills.
I would imagine there are plenty of professional people in London who need cleaners, and if she set up her own cleaning agency, she could make a decent income from that.
She doesnt have to physically clean the places herself, just organise her workforce....she would definitely be in her element doing that.

Maybe she should ask Liam for a couple of grand start up capital, to be repaid when the business is flourishing. ”

Great post - summed it up well agree with touting for money and not touting for business totally. The only part I would questions is whether there was enough interest for a solo interview. When you looked at part two where people posed questions they were all aimed at Ziggy not Carole.

My question would be WTF was she doing there at all?

[[Thanatos]]

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by Joanne100:
“I had already written a post suggesting her texting Ziggy was probably asking for money before I read this
Normally I applaud people for raising money for charity but not when they do it at the expense of others. I wonder whether she knows that Chan did the Wakefield football match thing - or does she actually give a to$$ about anybody but herself and her family and Char of course. ”

The thing is with Carole she’s one of these people who likes to be seen to back the minority groups (GG clone) what these people don’t seem to realise that just because you are in the minority doesn’t mean you are in the right.
I’m not one to cast aspersions but would she have been as ardent towards Charley if she was white.
I think she loves the martyrdom of it all and how cruel society is but in reality it’s people like her that bring society down with these pointless crusades.
Only my opinion of course.

Bit political for here sorry.

mrs fad

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by CARA2000:
“AAAAAh! that was lovely. Really like Brian and the twins. My favourite group this year. Zig, Chan, Brian, Twins without a doubt.”

they were my favs aswell i liked gerry too didnt really like the rest

angel07

06-10-2007

cant believe we are have nearly reached 900 pages in such as short time.

any news from ziggys pa last night.

CARA2000

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by [[Thanatos]]:
“The thing is with Carole she’s one of these people who likes to be seen to back the minority groups (GG clone) what these people don’t seem to realise that just because you are in the minority doesn’t mean you are in the right.
I’m not one to cast aspersions but would she have been as ardent towards Charley if she was white.
I think she loves the martyrdom of it all and how cruel society is but in reality it’s people like her that bring society down with these pointless crusades.
Only my opinion of course.

Bit political for here sorry.”

I think there is some truth in your opinion.

Wonder if Carole also has approached 100K Liam about a handout. After all, she gave it to him (not)

Wonder actually, whether he has offerred up any of it to some of her charities?

Joanne100

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by Juliet Capulet:
“He was called to the DR every morning first thing and would leave with a plastic cup of water so we all knew he was taking pills etc. I'm not sure whether that was the reason why he said he wanted to leave so many times though though ”

I did see him taking pills a lot. I am surprised he was allowed to stay in there for 94 days if he was ill TBH. Unless it was a nervous reaction to being in the house which upset his stomach/ ulcer type thing. If so there could be a connection between this and him asking to leave i.e. as pressures mounted the problem became more intense.

I agree with you though - there were probably other emotional factors at play.

Juliet Capulet

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by Joanne100:
“I did see him taking pills a lot. I am surprised he was allowed to stay in there for 94 days if he was ill TBH. Unless it was a nervous reaction to being in the house which upset his stomach/ ulcer type thing. If so there could be a connection between this and him asking to leave i.e. as pressures mounted the problem became more intense.
I agree with you though - there were probably other emotional factors at play.”

I'm sure the smoking, drinking and Carole's cooking didn't help either

Maybe why Chan was hoping Zac would give up the smoking

angel07

06-10-2007

love this song

Michael Buble' - Crazy Little Thing Called Love-good for a chiggy video

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xrlONMEpM

mediajunk

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by Joanne100:
“I agree lovely words - Hopefully singing to Molly that he want's to come home though. Oops just noticed you meant since Chanelle left - I was thinking from the start - it is more applicable after she had gone though I agree - when he was looking at the photo album in fact.

Did anyone else realise Ziggy was ill all the time he was in the BB house? That was a reason why he said he asked to go home so many times in the interview yesterday (if anyone wonders why I asked the question here).”

I realised that he often had stomach problems ... Hewent to the diary room every morning for pills ... I always thought his problems were stress related. I do think the whole BB experience was frightfully stressful for Ziggy, in every way not just his relationship with Chanelle. However, looking back I don't think his illness made him want to leave ... he just wasn't happy in there, especially once Chanelle had left and he had lost all the warmth and support she gave him. In many ways Chanelle made life in BB possible for Ziggy ... He would not have coped with all those bitchy women without her. Once they had all left, except for Carol, he could cope but often said he had never felt so lonely. I think Ziggy needs to be in a loving relationship to be really happy !

Joanne100

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by [[Thanatos]]:
“The thing is with Carole she’s one of these people who likes to be seen to back the minority groups (GG clone) what these people don’t seem to realise that just because you are in the minority doesn’t mean you are in the right.
I’m not one to cast aspersions but would she have been as ardent towards Charley if she was white.
I think she loves the martyrdom of it all and how cruel society is but in reality it’s people like her that bring society down with these pointless crusades.
Only my opinion of course.

Bit political for here sorry.”

You go for it! I totally agree. Please note this is not meant as anti-racist at all mereley questioning people's perceptions.

My OH commented at the time that Carole is so busy trying to support what she considers the underdog that she is actually predjudiced against the 'norm' . OH sited Char and Chan, both by all accounts had some difficulties in childhood which deserve some sympathy. Char had turned out angry and manipulative and Chan open and kind. It really got me thinking and drawing the same conclusions as you.

It was backed up also by her initial dislike of the twins and he being drawn to Tracy who again was outside of the 'norm'.

Joanne100

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by angel07:
“cant believe we are have nearly reached 900 pages in such as short time.

any news from ziggys pa last night.”

Maybe no news is good news i.e. suggests no major problems re Ian Lettice etc.

Joanne100

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by CARA2000:
“I think there is some truth in your opinion.

Wonder if Carole also has approached 100K Liam about a handout. After all, she gave it to him (not) Wonder actually, whether he has offerred up any of it to some of her charities?”

I thought I had read that he took her out for a meal - hope it was just fish and chips served in an attractive plastic tray, paper and a plastic fork.

kamax

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by Joanne100:
“I thought I had read that he took her out for a meal - hope it was just fish and chips served in an attractive plastic tray, paper and a plastic fork. ”

No she's vegeterian so just chips then.

angel07

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by Joanne100:
“Maybe no news is good news i.e. suggests no major problems re Ian Lettice etc.”

just asking as i thougth someone from the forum was going

mediajunk

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by angel07:
“love this song

Michael Buble' - Crazy Little Thing Called Love-good for a chiggy video

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xrlONMEpM”

Who is Michael Buble ? I liked the two new songs people put links up for but these standards are best song by Mr Sinatra or sim. Actually the incomparable Ella sings Crazy Little Thing Called Love, I'm almost certain ... sorry just showing my age here !!!

angel07

06-10-2007

no your right-hes covered it, just came across it while on youtube

mrs fad

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by angel07:
“love this song

Michael Buble' - Crazy Little Thing Called Love-good for a chiggy video

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xrlONMEpM”

im sorry to say but the Queen version is miles better

mediajunk

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by mediajunk:
“Who is Michael Buble ? I liked the two new songs people put links up for but these standards are best song by Mr Sinatra or sim. Actually the incomparable Ella sings Crazy Little Thing Called Love, I'm almost certain ... sorry just showing my age here !!! ”

OK its imcom etc ... can someone please explain to me how to correct typos and sp mistakes without the message saying 'edit' If there is a button to do this where is it and what does it look like ?

Joanne100

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by mediajunk:
“I realised that he often had stomach problems ... Hewent to the diary room every morning for pills ... I always thought his problems were stress related. I do think the whole BB experience was frightfully stressful for Ziggy, in every way not just his relationship with Chanelle. However, looking back I don't think his illness made him want to leave ... he just wasn't happy in there, especially once Chanelle had left and he had lost all the warmth and support she gave him. In many ways Chanelle made life in BB possible for Ziggy ... He would not have coped with all those bitchy women without her. Once they had all left, except for Carol, he could cope but often said he had never felt so lonely. I think Ziggy needs to be in a loving relationship to be really happy !”

I think you maybe right about needing to be in a loving relationship. I often thought in BB the age difference was more about his feelings for her and the fact that he was afraid that she was too young to be tied down. It passed through my mind yesterday also when he struggled to answer the 'are you living together' question. Chan has always said only whilst his flat was being refurbished whereas he wasn't so quick to answer as such.

Juliet Capulet

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by mediajunk:
“OK its imcom etc ... can someone please explain to me how to correct typos and sp mistakes without the message saying 'edit' If there is a button to do this where is it and what does it look like ?”

Press edit, but just don't type in a reason for the edit and press ok/submit or wotnot

Joanne100

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by kamax:
“No she's vegeterian so just chips then. ”

Good point - even more of a bargain.

BBfan!

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by CARA2000:
“AAAAAh! that was lovely. Really like Brian and the twins. My favourite group this year. Zig, Chan, Brian, Twins without a doubt.”

Thankyou

If anyone wants to have the original done in better quality then please PM me and I will be all to willing to link you to either mega upload or rapidshare to download my movie, its 50mb

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SdzpfIq7f4Q

mabbus-cattus1

06-10-2007

If you click the edit tab and correct what you want, as long as you don't put anything in the "reason for edit" box you should be able to just change your post without anybody ever knowing you made a mistake. I'll show you. Before edit.

After edit.

Nobody would be any the wiser.

quin13

06-10-2007

Originally Posted by mrs fad:
“im sorry to say but the Queen version is miles better”

I'm with you there Queen version is miles better

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