yes she said shes fine with itas its work

i agree i dont see a problem with them myself

i agree & like you said he goes home to chanelle & thats all that matters at the end of the day chanelle donsent have a problem with it so why should we

That was what I was trying to say. I am just trying to see things from both sides.

I am sure he will be repeating the process all over again tonight, I hope Nikki gets some good photos, and maybe even a bit of hands on herself, we will share the experience vicariously

Got to get your moneys worth

Why would she dump Zak? All he did was be friendly with people who had paid to see him. If he'd have kept his distance and appeared aloof then I doubt he'd get many more PA offers in future.

As for Chanelle doing Nuts shoots not being as bad as what Ziggy has supposedly done, I would say it is equally as 'bad' in that men are buying the mags to ogle her body and ... if you'll excuse the terminology ... masturbating while looking at these shots. Men don't buy Nuts to find out how to plumb in a new sink or decorate the living room, they buy it to ogle over it.

you told me to 'cut along' to the chanelle appreciation thread a short while back. but i'm not deterred! i recommend calming down. everyone has opinions, some who express theirs more strongly than others, who choose to be less determined in how they express themselves. we all have one thing in common though, the right to voice an opinion. let's keep it clean.

by the way, i do see nothing wrong in zac's behaviour in the drogheda club. that's how personal appearances at clubs are.

Clearly I was writing about Chanelle's actual photographs which are'nt sleazy just as I am talking about Zak's actual PA pics that some are calling sleazy. Is his job to sleaze all over these women in Clubs? I think not.

Nicki is going tonight PA in Leicester.

Just creeping in quietly just to make it crystal clear that my only concern about the pa pics is how DL has used them to promote Ziggy with, and bringing Chanelle into it.(As on his site)

I thought so.
She will hopefully write a cool report for us all later or tomorrow.

But he hasn't ............ end of argument.
Why give an explanation on something that hasn't been said in the first place.

Good. I look forward to her report. Hopefully she manages to get a cell video too.

It is his job to be ogled and admired by woman, and if they are lucky enough to get a grip or a kiss then that too is part of his job,

same as no matter how glossy Chans pictures she knows she is not selling apple pie but selling her body to be uses as maturbation material by whomever buys the mags,

they both sell themselves as a product, his for an hour in a club, or in shoots, hers in shoots and at PA's,

The facts are that Chan was not with other men in those pics right and that Zak was with other women in those PA pics right. You notice that Chan's actual website is using those pics on each page. Nothing bad about those pics. We all know what people do with Nuts mag. If they had a male version Ziggy would be there like a shot.

She will report back to us tomorrow, that for srue

But I thought you said he was sleazy?
I see nothing sleazy in those pictures. He is clothed, not snogging, signing breasts, fondling breasts or even looking at them inappropriately yet hes being accused of being sleazy.
I hope he never kisses his friends or aquaintances or work associates ever again.....the slut.

The point is that Chan is not physically involved with any men in those shots. Ziggy is. That is what some FMs are objecting to. People probably masturbate over that nude pic of Zak in that mag (forget name), does that make it a sleazy image? no.

of course he would, but thats not the issue, what is he actually doing with these woman, is he throwing them to the floor and having a mass orgy, no, he is doing what she does at her PA's but it is ratcheted up a few notches,

she has photos taken, she kisses her fans on the cheeks, she hugs her fans, it is all he is doing, it is just that they are a bunch of rowdy women who want a piece of him, can't say I blame them,

What in the name of God has happened in here since I was last on It's really went down in the dumps hasn't it.

All because of a few silly pictures of Ziggy doing what he is being paid to do..... be nice to the fans who some have came a long way to meet and support him!!
If Chanelle doesn't have a problem with it then why should you lot??

A lot of mentions about the difference between Zac and Chanelle's appearances too. The difference is that girls can get away with a lot more stuff in this line when meeting male celebrities, however if someone pushed too much with a female celeb. then it would be all hell broke loose and that fan being acussed of this thing and that thing.

And I'm not just talking about Chanelle and Zac here, it's across the board from Zac and Chanelle to members of Westlife or Take That to The Spice Girls or Rhianna

I am mostly objecting to Lanchsal's use of language and dissing Chan and FMs who offer opposing opinions (if you read the posts properly).

Who mentioned dumping???? the FM post certainly didn't.
Get real and stop twisting things to suit your own wierd conception of what is best or not for Chanelle.

Why are you comparing the Nuts shoot with Zac's PA's???

The Nuts shoot is a completly different line of work! So why is that even being discussed???

The fact is some people on here (more than likely Ziggy haters) are now complaing because he was photoraphed doing something that he was being paid to do............ just like Chanelle has been photographed meeting people at her PA's. The difference is that security is different because Chanelle is a woman, just like the security and rules would be if it was another female celeb doing a PA.

Why on earth some people are comparing a Nuts shoot and a PA is beyond me.

As far as I can see in some people's etes Zac can't do right for doing wrong, and if that's the case then I'm sorry but you are all in the wrong thread as this is an appreciation thread for BOTH

that is often the problem in misunderstandings, isn't it. i admit to just skimming posts myself at times if a few pages have built up since i last looked.
now stop being a naughty boy

Same here esp. if some of them are really long posts

Right I was in a good mood when I came on here, I'm now off to try and cheer myself up again

Then I shall back away from this thread also.
I have already left the other place today and feel my opinion matters to no one.
I must not diss Chanelle. I must diss Ziggy.
If those are my options then I chose neither and will retire.
I thought this thread was all for freedom of speech.