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zig&chan appreciation thread (Part 7)
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dubguy
16-11-2007
[List][*]Admin Edit: This thread is a continuation of zig&amp;chan appreciation thread[/List]
Originally Posted by jacko12:
“Simple fact is why did he go back to her if he was so worried about how she was behaving when she had dumped him.

If things where as bad as he makes out he have thanked his lucky stars and stayed well away..”

Well, there may not have been any dumping by her at all. All she said is they took a week's break from each other starting around 30 Oct - that would be the day of the scratch. I can't explain his actions really, but I think her looming birthday may have been the real nightmare for him, where he'd have to be there for hours meeting people and probably saying a few words about how happy they are and their future plans; that would have left him no way out really. I don't think he ever mentioned her birthday - you'd expect him to be delighted she was turning 20 ... and looking forward to the party.
Purdy
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“I think she shouldn't leave his allegations as said without responding. I think it would be better for her to respond in a dignified manner, without causing further backlash and any further slanging matches. But to say nothing, would mean that some people will take it as factually true and really I don't thing that Ziggy should be let off that easily. I'm hoping that ziggy will come forward and apologise for the way he dealt with this or already has done in private with Chanelle. I didn't pick up until yesterday that he dumped her early afternoon by phone and then went straight to an interview, which must have been prearranged. That phone call in the interview was probably her trying to get hold of him as he'd said for her to call him later. Very strange, as he'd spent two days with her and told her he loved her. Does question what went on that week though?”

omg, he did ask her to ring him back didn't he and when she couldn't get hold of him she obviously texted him and then he let Heat see them and print them
jacko12
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“I think she shouldn't leave his allegations as said without responding. I think it would be better for her to respond in a dignified manner, without causing further backlash and any further slanging matches. But to say nothing, would mean that some people will take it as factually true and really I don't thing that Ziggy should be let off that easily. I'm hoping that ziggy will come forward and apologise for the way he dealt with this or already has done in private with Chanelle. I didn't pick up until yesterday that he dumped her early afternoon by phone and then went straight to an interview, which must have been prearranged. That phone call in the interview was probably her trying to get hold of him as he'd said for her to call him later. Very strange, as he'd spent two days with her and told her he loved her. Does question what went on that week though?”

Personally I think his whole story is a mash of inconsistencies and the fact the only pieces of evidence can easily be argued against really dosen't help his case..
jacko12
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by dubguy:
“Well, there may not have been any dumping by her at all. All she said is they took a week's break from each other starting around 30 Oct - that would be the day of the scratch. I can't explain his actions really, but I think her looming birthday may have been the real nightmare for him, where he'd have to be there for hours meeting people and probably saying a few words about how happy they are and their future plans; that would have left him no way out really. I don't think he ever mentioned her birthday - you'd expect him to be delighted she was turning 20 ... and looking forward to the party.”

Well most people claiming to have feelings for someone would be quite happy to attend their partners birthday party .

Or do you think he was more concerned he may have to buy her a present for her birthday
nickymonger
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by ccm:
“Even if Ziggy does not respond, the NOTW/The Sun may still print another story without speaking to Ziggy if some of the allegations she denies did in fact happen and they have the evidence. As the DS has proved, you don't need to speak to anybody to print a story.”

They'd do that anyway then, regardless of whether she responds so she might as well respond if they will print it anyway. If they have evidence that will give them a story, they won't withhold it, they'll print it anyway.
Purdy
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“They also supported her reasons given and how it was protrayed as well. And also how it was out of the blue. For someone trying to set him up, she was certainly desperate to convince him she loved him. Felt so sorry for her when she said. Love you always, always, always!”

Nickymonger I found those text messages very telling. She was obviously shocked and it seemed from her messages that the problem for him was not trusting her and the DS story. There is no reference/apology regarding any of his allegations, she's not saying anything like it won't happen again and/or I'll get help etc.
BEANSONTOAST
16-11-2007
All these posts are about point scoring, the idea on hear is apreciating them that is what we have been warned agaist twice,Im apreciating waiting for them to get back together again and if by some small chance they dont i.ll be apreciating them getting on with there lives and trying to make some good out of all this mess.
This can be discussed on Julia desighns site about the aftermath of the split.
BEANSONTOAST
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by BEANSONTOAST:
“All these posts are about point scoring, the idea on hear is apreciating them that is what we have been warned agaist twice,Im apreciating waiting for them to get back together again and if by some small chance they dont i.ll be apreciating them getting on with there lives and trying to make some good out of all this mess.
This can be discussed on Julia desighns site about the aftermath of the split.”

But then again im not a Mod, So please yourself its only my thoughts.
Purdy
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by BEANSONTOAST:
“All these posts are about point scoring, the idea on hear is apreciating them that is what we have been warned agaist twice,Im apreciating waiting for them to get back together again and if by some small chance they dont i.ll be apreciating them getting on with there lives and trying to make some good out of all this mess.
This can be discussed on Julia desighns site about the aftermath of the split.”

Thank you for clearing things up and pointing people in the right direction.

Aww Bless I see you're an eternal optimist then re Chan and Zig.
savethecheerlea
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by BEANSONTOAST:
“All these posts are about point scoring, the idea on hear is apreciating them that is what we have been warned agaist twice,Im apreciating waiting for them to get back together again and if by some small chance they dont i.ll be apreciating them getting on with there lives and trying to make some good out of all this mess.
This can be discussed on Julia desighns site about the aftermath of the split.”

Exactly Beans
nickymonger
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by dubguy:
“Re. that scratch, he said she lunged at him on Tues 30 Oct. That was the day the disloyal Star mag article came out, and Heat with those ridiculous claims by the lap-dancer.

The day before he did Star mag (and the first nasty DS article came out), that's 22 Oct, there's the bizarre break-up over the phone when he refuses to sack his management, and the girls are laughing in the car in the background - she dumps him and changes her mobile no.). Chan mentions nothing about this dumping - or any dumping in fact.

After all the supposed attacks and psychotic behaviour, why does he end it after they've spent a couple of really nice days/nights together? I still can't figure it out.”

Think those dates are slightly wrong. They both agreed they met up on Monday 5th November (after he rang/messaged to say did she miss him 2/3 Nov) and got back together and split 8th November. Chanelle said they had a 10 day break and Ziggy said he was dumped. He may well be there was a fight and Chanelle saw it as a break and Ziggy saw it as dumped. But it means the "break up" was around 26/10/07. Probably, as was cited over his magazine article and a combination of other factors. Whenwere his 2 all night benders and when was the RSC thing and award ceremony.
BEANSONTOAST
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by Purdy:
“Thank you for clearing things up and pointing people in the right direction.

Aww Bless I see you're an eternal optimist then re Chan and Zig.”

Im a realist and it will happen again with them both ,"Its just fate"
BEANSONTOAST
16-11-2007
Good Morning Lue and everyone.
nickymonger
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by Purdy:
“omg, he did ask her to ring him back didn't he and when she couldn't get hold of him she obviously texted him and then he let Heat see them and print them ”

Exactly. Those texts had to be that day and perfectly normal given he'd turned his phone off and wasn't answering her calls. Which when they'd not had a proper conversation as it had been on the phone in a car with other people, on the way to the airport, was normal I thought. Plus, why not wait until after her signings that day when she was back in England?
nickymonger
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by jacko12:
“Well most people claiming to have feelings for someone would be quite happy to attend their partners birthday party .

Or do you think he was more concerned he may have to buy her a present for her birthday ”

that crossed my mind. If this was the usual case of breaking up a few days before her birthday, he'd have cancelled the footie match and bought a present. Therefore, most people, at least I did, would give the present anyway, especially if you still cared and had been the person doing the dumping. May not have been accepted but hey. Maybe he gave a message or present to the twins/Brian to give to her.
Tipi
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“I stand corrected. Photos on Keystone of Ziggy out clubbing at Ping, Pong nightclub. Can't see who he was with though.”

photos on Mr P now too
http://www.mrpaparazzi.com/index.aspx?postID=1206
Says he had dinner with Nikki and Michelle in Ping Pong restaurant......interesting that he and Nikki are friendly now, IIRC she wasnt very nice at all about him in the mags....
lue
16-11-2007
morning beans and everyone,keep up the optimism beans
nickymonger
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by Purdy:
“Nickymonger I found those text messages very telling. She was obviously shocked and it seemed from her messages that the problem for him was not trusting her and the DS story. There is no reference/apology regarding any of his allegations, she's not saying anything like it won't happen again and/or I'll get help etc.”

That is what I said on the other board. It also supported the fact that Ziggy was paranoid that she was trying to set him up. Chanelle obviously hadn't been trying to or the break-up would have suited her to the ground. Makes me think his agents have been feeding him paranoia. Now there is a story for the tabloids 'Jealous agent concocts plan to split up Chiggy' or 'Agents plot to make Ziggy dump Chanelle'. I find that more believeable than Chanelle sending texts to herself saying Ziggys using her for money and cheating, plus trying to get horrible articles about herself being pregnant in the newspapers, about wanting to set up a story that Ziggy hit her etc.... Yes, despite all this, she is sending him texts that she love him, he can trust her, she is loyal etc...
savethecheerlea
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by Tipi:
“photos on Mr P now too
http://www.mrpaparazzi.com/index.aspx?postID=1206
Says he had dinner with Nikki and Michelle in Ping Pong restaurant......interesting that he and Nikki are friendly now, IIRC she wasnt very nice at all about him in the mags....”

Nikki apologised for her comments.In ok.Weeks ago
sarah78
16-11-2007
Afternoon

Can someone clear something up for me, this has been bugging me for a few days since i read Ziggy's heat interview.

He said they got together and spent last monday and tuesday night together, but didn't Chanelle spend the weekend in wakefield at her parents, i remember someone say chanelle was still at home monday night but her car had gone tuesday morning, and i remember a photo turning up on here on wednesday saying Chanelle had spent tuesday night out with friends.

Can anyone confirm this or have i dreamt that?

Because if i haven't dreamt that then he's lieing about last monday and tuesday.
lue
16-11-2007
dont know why zig always thinks that girls are trying to mug him off,id love to know why.
he respects older women but doesnt young ones.
he picked the wrong one to doubt,though ,chanelle would never have mugged him off ,he had a loyal girlfriend who was/is in love with him and couldnt see it,sadly.
as to being out with nikki graham ,i hope she wasnt trying to get info out of him for her grubby ,little attacks.dont like her at all and i wish zig didnt either.
dont think hed have been out with chan if shed attacked him like that ,sadly
janpox
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by sarah78:
“Afternoon

Can someone clear something up for me, this has been bugging me for a few days since i read Ziggy's heat interview.

He said they got together and spent last monday and tuesday night together, but didn't Chanelle spend the weekend in wakefield at her parents, i remember someone say chanelle was still at home monday night but her car had gone tuesday morning, and i remember a photo turning up on here on wednesday saying Chanelle had spent tuesday night out with friends.

Can anyone confirm this or have i dreamt that?

Because if i haven't dreamt that then he's lieing about last monday and tuesday.”


no chanelle left her mums monday
DS Forum Support
16-11-2007
Hi guys,

Please remember that this is an appreciation thread for both Ziggy and Chanelle. Please don't side with one person due to recent events and subtlety attack the other (well, at least in this thread).
sarah78
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by janpox:
“no chanelle left her mums monday”

Oh did she, sorry i must of missed that bit, don't remember reading that.
Tipi
16-11-2007
Originally Posted by DS Forum Support:
“Hi guys,

Please remember that this is an appreciation thread for both Ziggy and Chanelle. Please don't side with one person due to recent events and subtlety attack the other (well, at least in this thread).”

Not questioning the powers that be but I thought it was remarkably calm and restrained in here today??? *shrugs shoulders

Anyway this is a report from Heat, not me not appreciating Ziggy

http://www.heatworld.com/Article.asp...+pity+on+Ziggy!

Love the bit about the TV at the end! pmsl!
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