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zig&chan appreciation thread (Part 7)
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Tipi
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“I actually think the suggestion of sueing is ridiculous. Th =e most damaging thing in there for Chanelle is the self harm and I think she will be more upset that someone she loved and trusted has done this to her than trying to sue him, when she doesn't need to money and it would just drag things out. Besides the incidents have no witnesses and it is his word against hers, so would be difficult to prove, which is exactly what is happening on these forums. We are all debating opinions, but none of us actually have any facts.”

I would agree with this
psychmed
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“I actually think the suggestion of sueing is ridiculous. Th =e most damaging thing in there for Chanelle is the self harm and I think she will be more upset that someone she loved and trusted has done this to her than trying to sue him, when she doesn't need to money and it would just drag things out. Besides the incidents have no witnesses and it is his word against hers, so would be difficult to prove, which is exactly what is happening on these forums. We are all debating opinions, but none of us actually have any facts.”

I agree, although according to Z there may have been some witnesses to the alleged bottle throwing. I responded in support of your post on ZAT but the response was very negative. I have pm'd you.
cathy.h
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by mrs fad:
“here it is but you have to be a friend to see them
http://www.myspace.com/mrsfaddy”


Thankyou Mrs fad have left a comment on your myspace.
Tipi
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by psychmed:
“I agree, although according to Z there may have been some witnesses to the alleged bottle throwing. I responded in support of your post on ZAT but the response was very negative. I have pm'd you.”

I think if she were to sue it wouldnt be over the bottle throwing or arguement stuff anyway - thats not worth it. It would be over the self harm and suicide claims......but still dont think its a good idea anyway - she needs to move on from this not get bogged down in legal proceedings
juliadesigns
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by Tipi:
“I think if she were to sue it wouldnt be over the bottle throwing or arguement stuff anyway - thats not worth it. It would be over the self harm and suicide claims......but still dont think its a good idea anyway - she needs to move on from this not get bogged down in legal proceedings”

Definitely.
Legal proceedings wont actually help either of them in the long run.
It will cost a fortune and wont make them any happier.

If the allegations are not affecting Chanelle's work offers she would be better to leave it and move on.
Ziggy will heal more quickly if he moves on as well and just gets on with his own life in or out of the public eye as he chooses.
nickymonger
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by psychmed:
“I agree, although according to Z there may have been some witnesses to the alleged bottle throwing. I responded in support of your post on ZAT but the response was very negative. I have pm'd you.”

Have pmed you back. Didn't ziggy say in the article that they were alone and that was his worry, as Chanelle accused him and there was no proof :s
C_K_07
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by BEANSONTOAST:
“Think you have nicky.
But seeing everyone apart from me thinks they have split for good,why dous everyone want to discuss it, its done and dusted in everyone eyes and most people have laid the blame at a certain persons door.
This is why there isnt really a place anymore for people like me(if there is any)who want to think or hope they can learn by there mistakes and get back together again.
Dousnt matter how bad a person dous wrong in my eyes everone should be given the chance to right themself and try and put things right.And he did do wrong but im prepared to give him another chance,but it is chanelle who will decide whether he gets one or not or even if he wants another go in the future.”

I'm with you Beans!!!
Originally Posted by banana1:
“Heres the link to Ziggy's you tube video, the girl at the end is his siter just in case anyone didnt recognise her.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EsBl-MdwIBQ”

Thank you. He doesn't look too happy there

Originally Posted by juliadesigns:
“Morning all

Although my Chiggy thread was short-lived I think in a way it served it's purpose.
It allowed many of us genuine supporters to express our angst at the break up in a cathartic and quite therapeutic way.
We enjoyed some healthy, interesting debates until it obviously went off-topic and was removed.

I for one feel better now for letting it all out so to speak, and would like to suggest that those of us still left in here can remain friends even if we do tend to support one more than the other.

Those that support Chanelle exclusively will get their own thread back on Monday and will no doubt stay in there from then on.
Those that support Ziggy exclusively still have the ZAT.

The rest of us can stay in here avoiding bitchy comments about either of them, but exchanging news and info about Chanelle and Ziggy as it becomes available.

There has been so much bitterness and anger expressed by supporters out on the main forum over this past week that hopefully it is all spent and will now die away.

I have made some good friends in here from both sides of the 'great divide' and would hate to lose you all if you run off back to your own ATs and we never see you again.

Let's not make it personal in here, guys. Surely we can be friends and agree to differ on Ziggy or Chanelle?

I am interested in how life moves on for both of them at the moment and can now keep my negative thoughts to myself, I hope.
I can always start another thread if I feel the need to vent again!

Agreed?”

Agreed


Afternoon guys. Good to be back on, was at a wedding yesterday and a funeral this morning Have had to pop home for a while before I'm off to the pub so thought I'd catch up on what's been happening on here I jnow some of those quotes were yesterday but I wanted to show Beans that I'm still here

Listened to Chanelle's myspace song aswell, me thinks she is missing him loads and still loves him to be honest with you. And Ziggy walking Molly, albeit very staged, he didn't look happy either. But the way Chanelle is communicating her feelings via songs is kind of hinting to me that even though what Zig done was wrong, me thinks if he wanted to get back with her tomorrow she'd be willing to sort things out. Hopefully they can have a sit down and private chat with no-one around and no agents in sight or in the know.

I reckon they'll both be at the party next week, unless Chanelle has a PA or something as it'll be getting very busy for her now. And if they do both go then I think they''ll at least be in the same company at some stage as the Twins, Gerry, Liam and Brian will be there.......... and so will Charley so Chanelle may want to stick close by them just incase.

Anyway I'm off again, hopefully talk to you all later on
nickymonger
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by juliadesigns:
“Definitely.
Legal proceedings wont actually help either of them in the long run.
It will cost a fortune and wont make them any happier.

If the allegations are not affecting Chanelle's work offers she would be better to leave it and move on.
Ziggy will heal more quickly if he moves on as well and just gets on with his own life in or out of the public eye as he chooses.”

I agree and opinions do seem divided. It is not a situation where everyone believes Ziggy and Chanelle's reputation is in tatters. A dignified response is better. If her myspace song is anything to go by, her biggest pain seems to be that she is heartbroken and just wants to get over him. I don't think Chanelle could bring herself to put her and Ziggy into a heated debate and I'm sure she probably feels regretful about her tantrums etc... She has certainly had enough work this past week. If anything, Ziggy may not have been given the best advice. Kiss and tells don't bring more work and I hope that he is not listening to too many other people again. He showed himself to be a decent bloke in BB in the end, so he must have his reasons for what he did. I just hope he makes the decisions that will make him happy and not what everyone else thinks will make him happy.
psychmed
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“Have pmed you back. Didn't ziggy say in the article that they were alone and that was his worry, as Chanelle accused him and there was no proof :s”

have pmd you back
kamax
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by Dia_rear:
“Have you seen this angel.


http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1309065743”

Thanks for putting this on brightcove Dia. I'd forgotten just how much I enjoy watching Chanelle.
cathy.h
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by C_K_07:
“I'm with you Beans!!!

Thank you. He doesn't look too happy there



Agreed


Afternoon guys. Good to be back on, was at a wedding yesterday and a funeral this morning Have had to pop home for a while before I'm off to the pub so thought I'd catch up on what's been happening on here I jnow some of those quotes were yesterday but I wanted to show Beans that I'm still here

Listened to Chanelle's myspace song aswell, me thinks she is missing him loads and still loves him to be honest with you. And Ziggy walking Molly, albeit very staged, he didn't look happy either. But the way Chanelle is communicating her feelings via songs is kind of hinting to me that even though what Zig done was wrong, me thinks if he wanted to get back with her tomorrow she'd be willing to sort things out. Hopefully they can have a sit down and private chat with no-one around and no agents in sight or in the know.

I reckon they'll both be at the party next week, unless Chanelle has a PA or something as it'll be getting very busy for her now. And if they do both go then I think they''ll at least be in the same company at some stage as the Twins, Gerry, Liam and Brian will be there.......... and so will Charley so Chanelle may want to stick close by them just incase.

Anyway I'm off again, hopefully talk to you all later on ”

Agree with you Claire, your just better at putting into words than i am.
juliadesigns
17-11-2007
Right guys, I had better go off and do something productive for a while now.

I am ashamed to admit I have neglected my college work recently, having got too involved in this saga of late.

I havent disappeared though and will be back on later....


Play nice while I am away now!
C_K_07
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by cathy.h:
“ Agree with you Claire, your just better at putting into words than i am.”

Which is quite suprising as I'm quite hungover today, and shall be tommorow aswell

Talk to you all later
nickymonger
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by juliadesigns:
“Right guys, I had better go off and do something productive for a while now.

I am ashamed to admit I have neglected my college work recently, having got too involved in this saga of late.

I havent disappeared though and will be back on later....


Play nice while I am away now!”

Have pmed you.
BEANSONTOAST
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by Tipi:
“chanelle at the wannabe auditions today
Looking lovely!
http://photo.wenn.com/index.php?ref=...107&version=uk”

The top middle photo shows she is upset by her eyes.
sarah78
17-11-2007
Afternoon

Thank you claire for the new Ziggy vid, sad crying again, it's been kinda easy to cry this week anything chiggy related i'm in flood of tears, any music i hear on the radio that were on chiggy vids i'm in tears.

I am a lot better than i was at the beginning of the week, i guess i've come round to the fact they may not get back together and they'll see other people, i'm kinda ok with that, probably won't be if i see them with a new partner, i'll be back to being in tears again.

I never learn, each year a new BB romance and i get too involved, with them and they break up and i'm upset then i'm back to normal life, but these two are differant, i've never carried on supporting a couple this long after big brother, i would of be getting on with my life and things but i'm not i'm sitting at this computer in tears watching a ziggy video lol.
lue
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by BEANSONTOAST:
“The top middle photo shows she is upset by her eyes.”

dont think anything ive seen of her lately shows that shes happpy ,the false smile and around her eyes never moving,she looks so sad and totally knocked back.would love to know how zig is feeling.
i know when i broke up with people ,if theyd dumped me i was devastated ,but if id dumped them i was glad to be out of it,but did remember some of the good times ,but easier to move on.
angel07
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by Dia_rear:
“Have you seen this angel.


http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1309065743”

thanks
angel07
17-11-2007
someone help me cant see chanelle pictures on myspace-i dont actually have a mysapce account-someone please post them
chelleyross
17-11-2007
ZAT threads been shut anyone know for how long?
BEANSONTOAST
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by lue:
“dont think anything ive seen of her lately shows that shes happpy ,the false smile and around her eyes never moving,she looks so sad and totally knocked back.would love to know how zig is feeling.
i know when i broke up with people ,if theyd dumped me i was devastated ,but if id dumped them i was glad to be out of it,but did remember some of the good times ,but easier to move on.”

Agree Lue its best to get the dump in first if you can.
But the eyes always give it away what people are thinking,sunglasses could be handy.
BEANSONTOAST
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by chelleyross:
“ ZAT threads been shut anyone know for how long?”

Well we are going to have to be good now,We are a shiny
example to everone now.
Could do with some more info on Zac and Chan though.
JoJo4
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by chelleyross:
“ ZAT threads been shut anyone know for how long?”

Looks fine to me
MaMaTaff
17-11-2007
It says closed
BEANSONTOAST
17-11-2007
Originally Posted by chelleyross:
“ ZAT threads been shut anyone know for how long?”

Cant talk about it but seems o.k to me.
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