WE dont SPECIALISE on here we App; both in our way and try not to get to heavy about it.
Unlike some other threads we' really good friends on here, although there is the odd attempt to disrupt our way of life.
Hope you like our little ways and have not come to disrupt them.Because the way I feel tonight I wilinhave no hesitation at pressing the button.

i'm knackered so off to bed night night xoxo

Goodnight Julia,

NIte Daisy

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Well said Fisher - goodnight sleep well- and to you as
well Julia

Well said Knite, Thats been what I have been saying for weeks now. You got to be appreciative/positive about both Ziggy and Chanelle to post on here or at least be a regular poster on here. If not appreciative of one party then I'm afraid that puts the thread towards the other and that is off topic and on forum life, being off topic means the thread is pointless. An offtopic thread confuses people and serves no purpose and should be deleted. Plus there hasn't been CHIGGY for weeks now and there is no chance these two are going to be back on from what we have seen so whats there to talk about in a joint thread other than to take sides? That is why I think this thread needs to be closed or at least the people who post on it to be "jointly" appreciative which again takes us to the fact that the relationship is over.

That is my honest opinion too.

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Hi, Lisa, Ireplied to your post but for some reason the MODs withdrew the page,I dont know how you thought I meant you,I did'nt know you were on the thread.
hope that clears that up,And a belated welcome to the threadI'm one of the residencial idiots on here were very easy going normally ,but its been abit strained tonight, one of my conpadres has been banned, so we've had to play it down a little, Hope youenjoy your stay here,its ahappy thread.
872 Fisher

No need to be formal

You can call me Fisher

Thank you Ive been told some people have been pussing the red button on me not you though

I have probably posted under 10 posts opn ZAT... I started on this thread... I see no reason to change...

This thread should do 'excactly what it says on the tin... That is to say 'appreciate Ziggy and Chanelle'!!!!!

I do not 'tell off', I simply reiterate the basis of this thread...

The Ziggy and Chanelle 'appreciation' thread...

I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. The ZAT and CAT are "idolisation" threads, with no room for any constructive criticism and where everything they do is perfect and amazing. Here, I feel that most of the true ZAC fms can talk constructively without making derogatory comments. It is when ZAT or CAT members come on, who post in the strongly dislike threads, and cause a stir as they see any type of criticism as slating. You can appreciate a person and not like everything they do. Noone is perfect after all. And I can name at least 5 of us who feel that way. Where are we expected to post when it has been made perfectly clear we aren't welcome in the CAT or ZAT. There is also a lot of references made to us being delusional and looking for Chiggy. Personally, I see no going back for Chiggy, but hope the two can sort out their differences enough to stop the Chiggy wars (and both parties are doing this). I do wish they could be friends as I feel it would be easier to discuss without "the dislikers" having any ammunition and instances like last night wouldn't occur and cause drama. I also liked their banter and would have prior to the break-up have loved to see something together. But, I do follow their individual successes, but don't like all the PR stunts (from both Chanelle and Ziggy), nor do I like the snide comments etc... But they are both moving forward with their careers and the negative press seems to be slowing down. Both seem to be impressing those in the industry and coming across as delightful, professional people. However, I do have concerns over agent tactics to keep them in the papers and keeping their profile high and public interest. If Ziggy has a new girlfriend; I hope that she makes him happy, but I don't think it would be necessary to show up to a party your ex is at with a new girlfriend. It is about respect and he knows how volatile Chanelle can be. If it is just a good friend, he is fuelling speculation having never taken female friends before Again with Chanelle, I think the rebecca loo comments should stop as it comes across a little immature and I'd hope that she too would restrain from the constant references to NOTW. And if Ziggy has tried to make contact and he feels that she has ridiculed him; I'd hope theyd both be adult enough to sort out their differences in a professional level at the very least which would result in the media easing off the Chiggy spin. The more they respond to Chiggy questions in an anti-manner, the more the papers and mags will continue to ask and put Chiggy war related articles or picture captions out there. Best way is to say I wish him/her well and hope the other is happy. It is obviously still quite recent so would be rare that they would be over it in the sense that it does not hurt them, even if they are over each other in the way of wanting to get back together. So, it would help them both if they could try to sit down, discuss whatever happened as adults (as I am inclined to believe there is a lot we don't know as they both seem so angry) and agree to put it behind them and be civil to each other so that they don't have to avoid certain celebrity parties. And DL stirring is not helping either and I don't believe this is necessary at all, as well as the DS stirring Leave them be

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Well it was'nt me Lisa, and I car'nt see any reason why anyone should.you'll find that a few of us are jokers and carnt resist a wind up post, but no harms ment and it just to jog the thread when thing get quiet.Enjoy your stay here were a friendly bunch.

One of the problems also occuring at the moment is changes words to something more disappreciating. An example would be that I stated a possible reason for Ziggy bringing a girl to the party was to make Chanelle jealous (ie. was Chanelle not talkin to him and it could have resulted in some interaction). We saw them trying to make each other jealous in the house so I merely speculated. This was changed to me stating that Ziggy did it to have a go at Chanelle whih implies something entirely different.

Same with discussions. We discussed Ziggys PA possibly have a negative impact on his image and the PR spin further adding to the love rat image that Ziggy wished to lose. This was changed to us thinking Ziggy was a loverat.

The discussion over the glamour shots was confusion as to why he did them as we thought he was against them. I certainly appreciate them being female and thinking he is hot,but do prefer him clothed and worry, again the image it protrays. In no way am I being horrible about him and in no way do I think glmour shoots are wrong per se.

But if certain posters do not like critical discussion, perhaps it would be better to not read the thread. I don't tend to read the dislike threads all the time as I don't like what they say or agree with it. But try to read to keep an open mind and gauge public opinons, but would never post there as clearly people would get annoyed.

I appreciate both Ziggy and Chanelle and hope we can turn the thread back around

Also, I certainly don't think it is wrong to attend parties with new girlfriends. But for me, I wouldn't attend a party that my ex was going to with another guy just out of respect for his feelings. I would expect the same from Chanelle. They haven't broken up that long ago and there is clearly a lot of ill feeling there. I know none of my friends would. There are plenty of other parties/evenings I could go out with my new boyfriend. Plus I wouldn't want to risk a scene or any uncomfortableness. I mereky share a different view to break up rules than some people, including Ziggy. But certainly don't begrudge him seeing anybody new or enjoying someone new company.

great post!

and good morning everyone! Hopefully I will have more time to post around here now, as I have broken up for the christmas holidays!

I particularly agree with the section i have highlighted, as I do often go over to the ZAT to have a look, to check for any new pictures etc..but i do not feel that i can post there, as it seems quite anti-chanelle. Although i slightly lean towards ziggy(he was my favourite in the house...), I also very much appreciate chanelle, and also love to hear or see any info/news or pictures about her.
I'm sure the people on the ZAT are lovely though, i just prefer the nice atmosphere on this thread

Good morning Zig and Chan appreciators. Great post Nicky. You were on a roll in the early hours! Agree with much of what you say.

Well had a bad day...missed flight home, luggage gone awol and arrived home to fms trying to close the thread leaving me homeless Think perhaps there should be a rule preventing those who post in the dislike threads can't post here as this thread is not a appreciate Ziggy OR Chanelle, but appreciate Ziggy AND Chanelle. Don't think it matters preferring one to the other, but definately not disliking one. Its why the arguments start Saw Chanelles interview and glad she didn't rise to the Ziggy goading. Makes you wonder how much exaggeration goes into these mags. As for Chloe and Ziggy. If they have got together, I doubt she will be joining him and his brother skiing. They would have only been together a few weeks and I doubt Ziggy would be rushing into anything. Plus it was one, possibly two dates..a little early for the girlfriend tag As for looking happier...I haven't seen any change in his photo pics at all. He poses exatly the same way he did with Chanelle. There have been a few unhappy pics just before and just after breakup, but apart from that his pics look the same now as they did whilst he was with Chanelle...exact same poses. So I think people are seeing something that isn't there there.

Anybody able to bring the ZAT interview over. What is this I hear about puppets and I wonder what show Chanelle has in the pipeline. Glad she is making new friends in London, so she isn't dependent so much on her PA and make-artist friend.

Do we know if Ziggy has moved into his new house yet?

As this thread seems to have degenerated from constructive discussion into a cycle of posts justifying its own existence and pondering who has pushed the alert button and when, it is now closed.

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