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Old 26-11-2008, 14:00
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Hi,

I have various small video files on my PC which I have taken from my camcorder and some I have downloaded off of the internet.

I would like to convert these into a format which the Fotsat understands and play them on it? (I assume that conversion software can be obtained off of the internet???)

I would upload them via the USB stick connection.

Thanks.
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Old 26-11-2008, 14:19
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Hi,

I have various small video files on my PC which I have taken from my camcorder and some I have downloaded off of the internet.

I would like to convert these into a format which the Fotsat understands and play them on it? (I assume that conversion software can be obtained off of the internet???)

I would upload them via the USB stick connection.

Thanks.
Not at the moment when you copy a file off the foxsat it has two other files that the OS needs. You can upload the three files and it will work but until someone figures out how to create the missing files from scratch it won't work
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Old 26-11-2008, 14:45
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Not at the moment when you copy a file off the foxsat it has two other files that the OS needs. You can upload the three files and it will work but until someone figures out how to create the missing files from scratch it won't work
Even then it will only play .ts files i would think, i cant see it have the codex for avi or mkv files built in
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Old 26-11-2008, 15:09
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Even then it will only play .ts files i would think, i cant see it have the codex for avi or mkv files built in
True but like the OP implied there's loads of software to create mpeg transmission stream files. (That's the easy bit )
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Old 26-11-2008, 22:22
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True but like the OP implied there's loads of software to create mpeg transmission stream files. (That's the easy bit )
urrmmm yea... I might have been assuming that there is software on the internet for converting a video file to a .ts file. Theres certainly lots of software for converting to other formats.

...is this a wrong assumption?

Its a shame you can't upload video, as this is one of the things I wanted to do (view my videos on the big screen down stairs)

I wonder if this is slated for a future addition???
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Old 26-11-2008, 22:27
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Total Video Converter apparently converts to TS

http://www.effectmatrix.com/total-video-converter/
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Old 26-11-2008, 22:29
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urrmmm yea... I might have been assuming that there is software on the internet for converting a video file to a .ts file. Theres certainly lots of software for converting to other formats.

...is this a wrong assumption?

Its a shame you can't upload video, as this is one of the things I wanted to do (view my videos on the big screen down stairs)

I wonder if this is slated for a future addition???
What about one of those http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/797746...r/Product.html
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Old 26-11-2008, 22:33
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Even then it will only play .ts files i would think, i cant see it have the codex for avi or mkv files built in
Presumably it will have MPEG2 and h.264/AVC codecs as that is what is needed for SD and HDTV - therefore anything in those formats might work.
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Old 26-11-2008, 22:34
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That looks interesting...

... though I was hoping that the Humax would do this, then I would not have to buy another box. Even better if you could upload using the network connection...
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Old 27-11-2008, 07:29
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The Foxsat HDR will play music mp3 files and you can view jpg photos, but there is no support for those camcorder clips. I too am disappointed about this - I would have thought it would have been easy for Humax to have added Divx functionality or the like.
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Old 27-11-2008, 10:47
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urrmmm yea... I might have been assuming that there is software on the internet for converting a video file to a .ts file. Theres certainly lots of software for converting to other formats.

...is this a wrong assumption?

Its a shame you can't upload video, as this is one of the things I wanted to do (view my videos on the big screen down stairs)

I wonder if this is slated for a future addition???
I think you misunderstood. There is loads of software that can create a ts file. Try the wizard in vlc player. If you have a laptop with dvi out (use a dvi to hdmi cable) or a tv with xvga you can connect that to your tv and play almost any file to your tv
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Old 27-11-2008, 17:44
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The Foxsat HDR will play music mp3 files and you can view jpg photos, but there is no support for those camcorder clips. I too am disappointed about this - I would have thought it would have been easy for Humax to have added Divx functionality or the like.
The Humax must have decoders for MPEG2 and h.264/AVC video as this is what TV is encoded in. The question is it possible to transfer videos onto the HDR rather than take them off? I wonder if there is actually some kind of protection that stops any kind of direct user fiddling with the videos otherwise someone might work out how to get the HD recordings off of the drive?
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Old 27-11-2008, 18:22
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The Humax must have decoders for MPEG2 and h.264/AVC video as this is what TV is encoded in. The question is it possible to transfer videos onto the HDR rather than take them off? I wonder if there is actually some kind of protection that stops any kind of direct user fiddling with the videos otherwise someone might work out how to get the HD recordings off of the drive?
I haven't got my HDR yet, but the on-line manual claims that the contents can be archived to an external HDD, so it seems that files can be transferred in either direction, even if they cannot be read. I would please like to hear if anyone has managed to get a video file onto the HDR and has been able to watch it, and of course how this was done.
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Old 27-11-2008, 18:36
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I haven't got my HDR yet, but the on-line manual claims that the contents can be archived to an external HDD, so it seems that files can be transferred in either direction, even if they cannot be read. I would please like to hear if anyone has managed to get a video file onto the HDR and has been able to watch it, and of course how this was done.
It allowing content to be archived to another drive (in SD format only) doesn't necessarily mean you are able to upload anything does it? I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't allowing any uploading otherwise we would get into the whole mess of whether it would allow HD (copyrighted) content to be uploaded etc.
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Old 27-11-2008, 19:05
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The Humax must have decoders for MPEG2 and h.264/AVC video as this is what TV is encoded in. The question is it possible to transfer videos onto the HDR rather than take them off? I wonder if there is actually some kind of protection that stops any kind of direct user fiddling with the videos otherwise someone might work out how to get the HD recordings off of the drive?
Not at the moment because it's a pvr it needs a lot of other info not just the video. examples (channel it was recorded from, time, programme info, recording length, etc etc.) This very intelligently is recorded in seperate files and the trick to getting a seperate ts file is some way of reproducing this info in a way the pvr can understand even though some of this is simply not present in the file you are trying to upload.

If someone was clever enough to get this info from the file to upload and invent the missing info then it would work (It's been done for the Humax 9200T). As for getting getting HD recordings off the HD it would need a direct link to the HD and a knowledge how the information is protected. The two are totally not related
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Old 27-11-2008, 19:07
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It allowing content to be archived to another drive (in SD format only) doesn't necessarily mean you are able to upload anything does it? I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't allowing any uploading otherwise we would get into the whole mess of whether it would allow HD (copyrighted) content to be uploaded etc.
If you download a file over usb you can upload it because it consists of 3 files (see previous post)
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Old 27-11-2008, 19:26
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If you download a file over usb you can upload it because it consists of 3 files (see previous post)
How can we be sure it will allow uploading of anything? Surely it might have a way of stopping uploading fullstop if it wanted to?
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Old 27-11-2008, 21:33
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It allowing content to be archived to another drive (in SD format only) doesn't necessarily mean you are able to upload anything does it? I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't allowing any uploading otherwise we would get into the whole mess of whether it would allow HD (copyrighted) content to be uploaded etc.
It uploads & plays mp3 & jpg files.
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Old 27-11-2008, 21:55
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Not at the moment because it's a pvr it needs a lot of other info not just the video. examples (channel it was recorded from, time, programme info, recording length, etc etc.) This very intelligently is recorded in seperate files and the trick to getting a seperate ts file is some way of reproducing this info in a way the pvr can understand even though some of this is simply not present in the file you are trying to upload.
I don't see the problem, if it can download files via the USB then it can upload then surely??

As for the other bits of information it needs to play the files (info, length etc) I would have thought that those clever programmers at would come up with a method around this - I don't see this as insurmountable...
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Old 28-11-2008, 00:53
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Bob_Cat has confirmed that uploading of videos isn't currently possible but may be enabled with future updates. As I suspected, if it does happen at all, only content encoded in MPEG2 or h.264/AVC will work as these are the only decoders built into the humax.
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Old 28-11-2008, 08:44
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Bob_Cat has confirmed that uploading of videos isn't currently possible but may be enabled with future updates. As I suspected, if it does happen at all, only content encoded in MPEG2 or h.264/AVC will work as these are the only decoders built into the humax.
Does Bob only mean video not created by the HDR though?

Surely you can upload video you've archived from the HDR otherwise what's the point of "archiving" it?

or... am I being thick? (it happened once before,, in 1987 I think)
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Old 28-11-2008, 08:49
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Yes, just general files from your computer. At present the box only recognises video content made on an HDR.
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Old 28-11-2008, 09:02
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Yes, just general files from your computer. At present the box only recognises video content made on an HDR.
Bob, I do hope the Foxsat HDR will be able to store my years of family camcorder clips one day. How else will I be able to embarrass my children for the Christmases to come?
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Old 28-11-2008, 16:56
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Bob, I do hope the Foxsat HDR will be able to store my years of family camcorder clips one day. How else will I be able to embarrass my children for the Christmases to come?
Nick - thats exactly what I would like to be able to do!
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Old 28-11-2008, 17:32
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Bob, I do hope the Foxsat HDR will be able to store my years of family camcorder clips one day. How else will I be able to embarrass my children for the Christmases to come?
Simple make em into dvd's
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