Ca you install a 2 tb HDD into a Foxsat? Western Digital has introduced a new 2tb HDD but is there any lmitations of drive size? Is a 1tb the biggest you can install?

Hi All My humax seems to be a lot quicker with the samsung spinpoint 1TB F1 fitted no problems yet.

Anyway sorry if this is not the right place to post but on the hotdeals they have been going on about the NAS hard drive USB enclosure from ebuter for £10 which seems a pretty good deal http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160919...roduct_reviews

I was wondering if we connected this or hard wired it to the usb port it could be used to get files onto your home network ?

Only downside I can see is its IDE so disc size is limited but if we were just using this as a network link it may not be to bad.

Of cause it would mean running some cat 5 cables unless it will plug into a wifi hub and then the limitations are endless at £10 I may have a go at one of these at that price they make a cheap caddy anyway.

Any thoughts ???


Zeberdy

I cant talk about that item specifically but i had a smiliar plan when i bought a nas. Unfortunately it doesnt allow me to use the item as usb host and nas at the same time; so you have to unplug the usb for it to perform as network storage.

Also it can be formatted in either fat32 or some type of linux FS that i cant remeber, but which cant be read by the Humax. So copying HD is a bit of no-no as fat32 cant handle the bigger files.

Bob cat has mentioned that the iCord has some sort of ftp functionalty and this MAY be translated to the foxsat HDR at some point, so we can only hope.....

I copied all of my HD files over to my WD 1TB drive, in fact 300 GB of files!!!

The FAT32 restriction applies to USB sticks as I believe the max single file size for transfer is 4GB.

However, on a drive formatted by the Humax, its formatted using the EXT3 file format and you'll find no such restriction.

I just connected an external caddy via USB and transferred all of my files across. It was exceptionally slow though - took over a day with constant interaction. I'd advise using SATA instead. It can be done though. Only thing you'll lose is the thumbnail views.

yes i understand that, but the the NAS being talked about can only format and read fat32 so therefore has a filesize limitation of 4 gb

Thanks for the reply,

Thats a good point about the Humax hard drive format Ex3.

But I think this can be read by a linux OP system so wonder if this NAS would work with linux.

Of cause the files can beplayed bery well by the Free viewer VCL either on a windows machine or Linux.


May explore this further


Zeberdy

I think VCL can only play SD, or unencrypted non-freesat mode HD on the PC. Encrypted HD, including BBC copy-once files, have to be transferred back to HDR to be played.

Rgds.

Les.

Upgraded mine this morning with : http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150245

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Fitted the 1 TB Western Digital into the Humax, it picked up the drive and formatted it ( gave mp3's & Photographs 50 gig) then removed and put back into Computer

Downloaded Ubuntu ( www.ubuntu.com )

Connected up 320gig Humax Hard drive + New 1TB Western Digital to computer

Run Ubuntu from CD (no need to install)

it identified perfectly the 320gig Humax and all its files, then simply copied all the recordings currently on the 320gig humax onto my new 1TB Western Digital

fitted the 1TB Western Digital back into Humax and working 100% perfect with no problems, even works a lot faster.

removing hard drive inside the Humax was a breeze too very easy to do.

(it wont pick up the file system in windows or windows 7 only ubuntu)

pretty good for an upgrade £80.26 delivered if your a member of hexus or av forums.

1.5TB Samsung HD154UI EcoGreen F2 DT, SATA 3Gb/s, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/15TB-...ache-89-ms-NCQ

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/42797...n-f2-sata-hard

I saw this on Hot Deals forum and wondered if there is an issue with Drives over 1.0 TB?

While we don't support upgrading the drives, in theory if the device works with a 1TB it could easily support greater as well. It might have some yet unknown performance issues and the selection of the correct type of hard disk will improve reliability.

Once again I am not endorsing anything, but just saying that 1TB is not a limit.

The Samsung 1.5TB does not seem to be a CE HDD, it's quiet & draws low power, but I can't see that it's CE & suitable for PVRs, so it will probably have the error correction that will make it jittery over time.

Unless anyone can find positively that is it a CE device?

Rgds.


Les.

£54.99 samsung 1tb f2 ecogreen

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164282...roduct_reviews

I've installed a Samsung F2 Eco Green 1TB in an external ESATA caddy, and am disappointed to find that the drive appears to be spinning 24/7, including when the Foxsat is in standby mode. Will try a WD drive instead - maybe it has better power saving features.

Have installed a hitachi 7K1000 1TB... Draws slighlty more current than spec's for standard.. A little bit more chuntter when in use, specially HD....

But so far can live with it. Spins down in standby and so far the HDR works the same as before other than the disk operations are slightly quicker.

HDR now showing 35% full, with 320 this was 85% full and I now have more content saved on it.

So far 2 weeks of trouble free.

Due to Bob's hint above I took a gamble, and managed to successfully upgrade my Foxsat-HDR a couple of months back using a Western Digital 2TB AV-GP 'Green' (WD20EVDS). I'm happy to report that it's been working absolutely perfectly ever since!!

With a 2TB drive you get 240 hours of HD recording, so no more worries about it filling up, or having to use odd methods of archiving via PC to temporarily free up some space, etc. It's almost like getting a brand new machine, only better, since there's nothing like it in the shops. Fantastic stuff!! Now I just need to work out how to wirelessly stream from my Foxsat-HDR to other TVs in my house, and my life will be complete (he he)!

For anything bigger than a 1TB drive, the Foxsat-HDR won't automatically format the hard drive once you've installed it, so you basically have to do that job yourself 'manually'. Took me just under an hour at the time, but I reckon I could do it in half that time now I know exactly what's what.

Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'manually'?

Did you format the drive in the Foxsat by selecting Format from the setup menu? I have read elsewhere that the Foxsat tries to format it automatically and fails, then automatically formats the next drive you put in, even if it's the original 320 Gig drive with your treasured recordings! It also suggests that formatting a large drive involves setting up the drive using a PC and your chosen flavour of Linux (Ubuntu etc.) to create 4 partitions.

If you can write some clear instructions that would be much appreciated.

Regards

John

I'm thinking of putting in a 2TB hard drive and would also like instructions re: the format of the drive

Cheers, Longsightboy

http://www.avforums.com/forums/frees...l#post11774024

Hi,
Can somebody who's done the upgrade tell me how you transferred the recordings that you already had on the original disk inside the HDR. I have some old BBC HD recordings that file manager will not allow me to move to my external HD. Can I simply put the original disk into a usb caddy, is there a way to copy them back onto the new drive after it is installed in the HDR?

One more question: I have an external drive formatted at FAT32 which is working fine for archiving programmes off the HDR. Is it possible to connect a second USB drive to the other USB port on the HDR. I ask as I fancy having another external drive that I would format at EXT3 (sp), to allow me to copy files over 4 gb to that drive, and smaller files to the existing FAT 32 external usb.

Sorry to throw all these questions, but fancy doing this, and I don't want to get it wrong.
Thanks

Stick the drive in a usb caddy, you don't have to copy the recordings though you can play them back from usb. You can connect a 2nd usb drive and switch between them but you can't copy usb to usb.

I have now done the WD20EVDS 2TB HD upgrade (using Ubuntu's GParted application on a PC to format and partition the drive). I had the old 320GB HD in another caddy at the same time so tried to copy the old recordings (and the recording schedule file in the first partition) across to the new HD via Linux but it would not let me as I was not the 'owner' of the files. Others do not seem to have had that issue so I don't know why I did - I'm no Linux expert.

After installing the new 2TB HD in the Foxsat I simply attached the old 320GB HD via USB and used the file manager to copy the contents across one by one. It's a bit of a pain to do, especially as you have to create and name a new folder for multi-episode recordings then transfer each existing recording individually into the folder - you cannot copy a folder from one drive to another.

Humax - can we please have this feature in a future firmware update? Also the ability to create a new folder and copy existing recordings into it (on the same drive) without having to copy them to an external HD then back again which takes forever for HD recordings. That way all the kids' recordings can be moved to a separate folder for example.

Not sure about FAT32 drives - the Foxsat prefers ext3, but USB sticks are always FAT so I guess it's OK. Can't see why you cannot have two external drives so you should be OK with that too.

Regards

John

FAT32 is pretty useless for HD recordings due to the file size limit of 4gB. Some long SD movies can exceed this size as well

Pleased to report that today I finally got around to upgrading my Foxsat-HDR [LIST][*]from its original 320GB Seagate Pipeline HD 320GB ST3320310CS drive[*]to a Samsung HD103SI 1000GB drive I already had leftover from a PC upgrade that didn't go ahead[*]and used a Sumvision ICO SV552 SATA HDD Docking Station (eSATA & USB 2.0 connections) I eBayed for c£17 to access the existing HD recordings on the old hard-drive[/LIST]
I've done a two-page TEXTUAL summary of the steps I went through in case it would help anyway else. It's a 50KB PDF sat on my Public Skydrive Windows Live space at:
http://cid-99aa6cf1226facfe.skydrive...se.aspx/Public

The way the Humax software deals with a new drive is really userfriendly/simple and for anyone PC component literate, it's quite a breeze - the short fan cable that's hiding underneath the drive sub-chassis being the only real potential 'gotcha'.

MKD

To slightly lessen the pain have you tried using the yellow "edit" button? Just mark (tick) the contents of an individual folder and then copy the lot to a destination folder. It still takes a long time, but you can do something more constructive whilst its in progress. I look for the LED on the drive to stop blinking, and then you know the task is complete.