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When you say you tried both channels, you mean you tried BBC HD in Freesat and non Freesat mode? It seems odd that it worked for Blotch but not in your case.
![]() I can confirm that on my box in non-freesat mode BBC HD appears encrypted and I cannot copy it off via USB. Did the same test with Luxe TV HD and this is not encrypted and allows copying off. All SD and HD (luxe) test files I have copied off will play directly on my PS3 with no conversion (unlike my toppy TF5800 which need demuxing) when streamed off my NAS. |
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Sorry for the total newbie question, but how do I get Luxe?
Do I do a Manual Tune to get the extra (non-freesat) channels? And then what happens? Do they appear in the EPG? And if not how do I watch them? Sorry of the idiot questions but I am new to all this stuff. Thanks |
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#78 |
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Sorry for the total newbie question, but how do I get Luxe?
Do I do a Manual Tune to get the extra (non-freesat) channels? And then what happens? Do they appear in the EPG? And if not how do I watch them? Sorry of the idiot questions but I am new to all this stuff. Thanks |
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And then what happens? Do they appear in the EPG? And if not how do I watch them?
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Do a manual tune, choose non freesat mode to view them.
I hear that I will lose my scheduled recordings also - do you know if this is so? I have it working all pretty well and don't want to mess it up! |
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When you say you tried both channels, you mean you tried BBC HD in Freesat and non Freesat mode? It seems odd that it worked for Blotch but not in your case.
![]() I know it involved quite a few button presses to do it (folder view-copy).
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When you say you tried both channels, you mean you tried BBC HD in Freesat and non Freesat mode? It seems odd that it worked for Blotch but not in your case.
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definately worked for me last night, I can stream HD from USB drive to TV via PS3 - awsome picture
I know it involved quite a few button presses to do it (folder view-copy).
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Have you updated to the latest firmware? Maybe that's the difference? I am on the latest and can confirm that BBC HD in non-freesat mode seems exactly the same as freesat mode
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ok I just did the same test as last night - and this time it failed, the 'Enc' flag is now showing in the media list! So this must mean that the 'Enc' flag isn't on all the time as last nights recording does not show the 'Enc' flag and still allows me to copy
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#86 |
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Yes I have the latest firmware. If you manual record BBC HD in non-freesat mode (I did a 2 mins as a test). Then go into media, you will see the recording, but with copy button greyed out. I then selected Opt+, went into folder view and copied across to USB drive from there. The recording is full HD and the PS3 can bothe see and play it.
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ok I just did the same test as last night - and this time it failed, the 'Enc' flag is now showing in the media list! So this must mean that the 'Enc' flag isn't on all the time as last nights recording does not show the 'Enc' flag and still allows me to copy
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ok I just did the same test as last night - and this time it failed, the 'Enc' flag is now showing in the media list! So this must mean that the 'Enc' flag isn't on all the time as last nights recording does not show the 'Enc' flag and still allows me to copy
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yes this is annoying, as you say I got lucky last night with no encryption (it was about 00:30am this morning)......just when I had vision of archiving some HD to PS3 USB drive
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ok I just did the same test as last night - and this time it failed, the 'Enc' flag is now showing in the media list! So this must mean that the 'Enc' flag isn't on all the time as last nights recording does not show the 'Enc' flag and still allows me to copy
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Did today's failure involve switching to non-freesat and starting recording? I have a feeling it might work if you switch to non-freesat, wait a while (say 10 mins) and try again...
![]() Update: Well, I've tried another approach - go into non-freesat mode then put machine into standby. Wait a minute then power on. Wait for it - it worked, I recorded 4 mins of BBC HD on channel 5102 and no 'Enc' tab visible and I can copy I think what happened last night is that I switched the machine on and went immediately to non-freesat mode. But this way (standby then wake up) works best.
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ok I haven't given up testing yet! I just tried as you suggested above and it failed again - the 'Enc' tag was visible in media.
![]() Update: Well, I've tried another approach - go into non-freesat mode then put machine into standby. Wait a minute then power on. Wait for it - it worked, I recorded 4 mins of BBC HD on channel 5102 and no 'Enc' tab visible and I can copy I think what happened last night is that I switched the machine on and went immediately to non-freesat mode. But this way (standby then wake up) works best. ![]()
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ok I haven't given up testing yet! I just tried as you suggested above and it failed again - the 'Enc' tag was visible in media.
![]() Update: Well, I've tried another approach - go into non-freesat mode then put machine into standby. Wait a minute then power on. Wait for it - it worked, I recorded 4 mins of BBC HD on channel 5102 and no 'Enc' tab visible and I can copy I think what happened last night is that I switched the machine on and went immediately to non-freesat mode. But this way (standby then wake up) works best. ![]() |
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I can't rule out possability I got lucky again (if poster above is correct ref BBC experimenting with tag on/off) - so I'll do more testing during the evening then report back.....
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Update: Well, I've tried another approach - go into non-freesat mode then put machine into standby. Wait a minute then power on. Wait for it - it worked, I recorded 4 mins of BBC HD on channel 5102 and no 'Enc' tab visible and I can copy
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Brilliant deduction Sherlock, got to try this tommorow.
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So the conclusion is it is possible to archive BBC HD afterall by going into non freesat mode? I like this lateral thinking.
Are there any disadvantages with the approach? I guess this looses the advantages of the EPG though to set recordings does it? How does the programme appear in the recordings list - is it just like other recordings? I don't have a machine by the way. For me recording BBC HD unencrypted and archiving is a must have before I buy one, because I can do that now with my current set up. So you've just brought back the possibility of me buying one of these |
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So the conclusion is it is possible to archive BBC HD afterall by going into non freesat mode? I like this lateral thinking.
Are there any disadvantages with the approach? I guess this looses the advantages of the EPG though to set recordings does it? How does the programme appear in the recordings list - is it just like other recordings? I don't have a machine by the way. For me recording BBC HD unencrypted and archiving is a must have before I buy one, because I can do that now with my current set up. So you've just brought back the possibility of me buying one of these Another disadvantage is that the box won't record anything set to record in Freesat mode whils't in fta mode |
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You currently can't set a timer to record in non freesat mode the only way is to be watching the channel and press record. (Hence the reason for looking for a macro programmeable remote with a timer). Once recorded the recording appears in the recorded programme list as any other but without the ENC mark that other HD recordings have. Hopefully a later firmware will at least give us a simple way of telling the box which channel to record, when and how long for, in non freesat mode.
Another disadvantage is that the box won't record anything set to record in Freesat mode whils't in fta mode thanks for the reply No timed recordings in nonfreesat mode is quite a disadvantage. |
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I know it involved quite a few button presses to do it (folder view-copy).