That is another pretty big disadvantage. How many manual recordings can you have running in non freesat mode?

You should be better off re-locating the HDR rather than messing about with temperature readings!

I noticed this HDD at scan.co.uk for £82.08 plus £6.99 shipping.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1TB-W...rpm-16MB-Cache

I haven't bought one yet. Will see how I manage with the supplied HDD over Christmas.

Or this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE


Graham.

Look what happens when the possibility of archiving HD arises--people want to save it for later to play back on their own systems, not leg it to the car boot with dodgy copies.

If only the financiers could learn this.

As if they could learn anything!

They probably do, but would prefer people to buy the blu-ray version

As irritating as copy protection is, and it irritates me, perhaps we should be thankful it isn't worse - a restriction on the number of times a HD recording can be played back, or a time limit

Bad me. Don't put ideas into their heads
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that's the one I used to upgrade my HDR. Works great, no problems thus far.....

That Amazon HDD is the WD10EACS. Its not the same as the WD10EVCS from Scan.

I'm hoping that the ethernet port will allow us to copy HD recordings off to a NAS server then play them from there. After all, the transport streams are encrypted by the Humax Hardware so it can't be used (until a hacker breaks the encryption of course).

Given the choice I would go for the EVCS, but I am sure the EACS will work equally well in practice. It's the same power consumption, noise levels, warranty etc. It's basically the same drive with different "tweaks".

I have upgraded with the EACS and its a massive improvement over the stock drive - much more quiet and cooler too.

Its not encrypted as such. It just has the copy protection flag set from what I understand.

In theory the hard disc could be put in a PC and the file copied using AnyDVD to bypass the copy protection.

Trouble is Humax use their own propriety hard disc file system that windows cannot read.

Peggle,

The files are encrypted when they are flagged do not copy, to prevent the HDD being removed. This is because we don't use our own propriety hard disk format on this product, but a merely a linux format which Windows doesn't read by default.

Bob

Thanks. I stand corrected.

Two just recorded Lux HD and BBC HD at same time

Good price. Down £20 since weekend. Free delivery for AVForum members with 20+ posts.

You can get them around the £80 - £82 mark on ebay, including postage.

Not a lot of difference, but every little helps.

I think that's all people need to know. Thanks.

I might be getting one of these after all...

Should any of you, like me, find Ballicom appear to be the only actual stockists of the WD10EVCS beware. I ordered from them yesterday for next day delivery, rang in the morning and they confirmed the drive was coming out, stayed in all day despite a urinary infection requiring medical treatment, rang again at 5.15pm and their courier had no idea where the package was and would take 24 hours to confirm. Ballicom couldn't send out a replacement despite showing 15 in stock on their website and blamed the loss on Christmas, unimpressed when I suggested they get a better courier company.

How have people been faring with alternative drives? Is the WD10AVCS up to scratch?

I don't understand this, but feel I should, can you translate? Why is that piece of information about Linux and encrypting key?

Freesat have mandated that provision is made to copy protect programs when the broadcaster wants to do so.

As the channels are broadcast in the clear the Humax HDR encrypts the program when it stores it on the hard drive if the copy protect flag is present.

This means even if you remove the hard drive & put it in your computer you cannot watch or copy those programs.

At present BBC HD & ITV HD are copy protected.

Linux is a computer operating system as is Windows.

I knew that , but I thought we were getting closer to a workaround, as mwardy said above "I'll get one" as soon as he found out it was Linux and encrypted. Thats the bit I don't understand. What's so great about that?

Think I must have got the last one fron Scan. Fitted it today. No noisier than old HD, might even be slightly quieter.

Nothing else to say really.

Well, I took it to mean that the 'encryption' is nothing other than the fact that the files are saved in a linux format, which windows can easily be made to read.

But on closer reading it looks like I have it wrong. Bob is saying that it's precisely because the box uses a non-proprietary disk format that it adds encryption to defeat disk removal. In other words, exactly what peggle says. (Bob's message makes more sense read this way!)

BUT we do seem to have got as far as knowing the disk is formatted in ext3, so with suitable software it can be read by a windows PC. Now all we need is a smart person to get under the bonnet...

Sorry to have falsely raised hopes.

I think there's a contradiction there. Is there such a thing as a smart person who uses windows

I suspect it is more likely a linux developer who will crack the encryption, as they're used to reverse engineering things. Just need to find one who wants the challenge

Ouch! But yes, I didn't mean to exclude linux types, far from it, just include windows ones!