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Old 21-10-2003, 19:56
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I would like to believe that those Forum members that claim to be Tommy's family and friends are indeed who they claim to be. I really do.

However the 'families' thread has forced me to have some doubts ...... particularly the contributions from Yidaho but also those of Bystander and Mesostim.

Even at this stage I hope I'm wrong. If I am proved wrong then I apologise in advance. My only defence being that this is a discussion board.

All that is required is a little verification ... almost anything will do.

I will concentrate my remarks on Tommy's accident. Other BB Forum members may wish to discuss other points raised by Tommy's alleged family and friends.

As described on this Forum by weymel last Sunday morning this was a serious accident .... yet we have seen nothing in the press. Not a word. Surely the press would have picked up on this given that they have been extensively covering Teen BB since last Friday night's final. I cannot believe that the Sun & the Star & the Mirror & Heat magazine are all not interested. They usually hunt out all BB related trivia. Has the news appeared in the local press or on local sites ? Nope, not there either.

If true, would Tommy not have sold his story as indeed Nush recently did following her mugging? Are we to believe that they are not prepared to pay Tommy's price? Or that Tommy doesn't want some easy cash?

Yet not a peep anywhere !!! Not even on the Channel 4 Teen BB site. Incredible, don't you think?

But the family are scared ot those contracts that Tommy had to sign ... so we are told. Yet given the allegations and claims that they have ALREADY made on this Forum, C4 & Endemol ALREADY have enough to go to court with. So why be shy? Post the lot ! Give us some dates, times, names, proper explanations etc

And as for the accident itself. At a time when you would expect a family member to be besides themselves with worry, they click onto this site to report the news. That isn't what I would do. After all that was some fall .... twenty feet !!! And barely a scratch.

Come on guys. Either stop pulling this Forum's leg or verify your claims. As I said, almost anything will do.

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Old 21-10-2003, 20:00
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It's a very reasonable request...some proof would go a long way to confirming some of the stories we're being told...

Good post Eejay......
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Old 21-10-2003, 20:05
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if I was in the know then I would be posting much like Weymel and End1.

The newspapers do horrible things to people.
 
Old 21-10-2003, 20:09
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Interesting! Let's see where this one goes!

What does interest me is- If someone did pose as someone else; What is the point? What is gain by it?

If I tell you that I am, in fact, Jade's Dad (UNTRUE!!!) why would I do that and where would it get me???

All very strange!
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Old 21-10-2003, 20:09
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The points Eejay makes are valid points and I too had wondered why the papers hadn't picked up on the accident story and some answers would be welcome.
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Old 21-10-2003, 20:11
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it made me wonder too but I didnt want to mention it in case they get fed up continually being questioned on their identity.
 
Old 21-10-2003, 20:13
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Originally posted by Goodfella
it made me wonder too but I didnt want to mention it in case they get fed up continually being questioned on their identity.
IMO that would not be the case if they are who they say they are.
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Old 21-10-2003, 20:16
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Surely proving who they are isn't that hard....it's backing up some of the stories I'd be interested in......
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Old 21-10-2003, 20:20
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Originally posted by Eejay
IMO that would not be the case if they are who they say they are.
the way I feel, people hold on to the idea they can be relatively anonymous here. We all use monikors. Its a sort of comfort.

If I was in their position and didnt feel comfy then I would stop posting because I would know it would come to this.

Its much the same as when theres a mole giving good info but in the end we want the Press to find out who the mole is.

If Tommy did an interview or whatever in coming weeks, we would have heard about the accident and the 2 posters wouldnt have been pressurised to reveal more about themselves than they wanted to.

The next time Tommy speaks to the media will probably confirm the story.
 
Old 21-10-2003, 20:29
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Then why start posting at all? Why the need to spread gossip about Tommy on a discussion forum?

Are we that sure Tommy will ever confirm the story?
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Old 21-10-2003, 20:33
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I think its likely Tommy will mention it. Most of the HMs confirm/deny things when they get a chance in the media. Camerons not dating Cherise for instance (so he says)

People want to give their side of stories.

IMHO its a mistake to post on forums because people always want more or give them abuse or are constantly sceptical etc.

Personally, End1 and Weymel and GarethWright make these threads worth reading. Without them the TeenBB threads would probably be on page2 now.
 
Old 21-10-2003, 20:54
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Originally posted by Goodfella
Personally, End1 and Weymel and GarethWright make these threads worth reading. Without them the TeenBB threads would probably be on page2 now.
I'm not particularly fussed either way, but I'd sooner know the facts and let TBB die a natural death, than desperately cling on to every word these people utter in hopes that there may be a grain of truth in it all. Wouldn't you?

I don't mean to sound rude, Goodfella, but you sound terribly desperate. Even if these people are who they claim to be, how much more interesting, or otherwise, is it going to get?
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Old 21-10-2003, 21:03
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yeah but usually nobody with inside info comes to the forums.

look at all the flak they get ?

Im only sounding desparate cos of all the scepticism and abuse. I wouldnt bother posting either if I was pressurised.

As I understand it, they have stopped posting elsewhere because of flak.

If they leave then its us lot talking among ourself as usual and if we do come to believe them then they are gone already.

Whats the harm in letting them say what they want in their own time ? We dont have to believe it but if its true then you heard it hear first, and if they stop posting then we have lost those contacts.

All these types of posts (like mine and yours in recent threads as well as others debating this) are just clogging up the threads
 
Old 21-10-2003, 21:03
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It's not in the press because Tommy doesn't want it in the press, it's that simple, if you want something in the press you have to tell them, Tommy has chosen not to, it;s that simple.

As for proof of who we are, I think it is a shame that the bandits from the NG have made you question us but there you go, thats life, I mean Yidaho cares about nothing, couldn't give a fig about anything, and yet has alot to say for somebody whos not interested!

Ok Kriz, do you have somewhere where I can upload a picture of Tommy with any words of your choice on a piece of paper, then perhaps we can do that, and basically leave the forum, because this just ain't worth it!
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Old 21-10-2003, 21:04
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NOT JUST kRIZ BY THE WAY, ANYONE WHO CAN RECIEVE THE PIC
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Old 21-10-2003, 21:10
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Originally posted by weymel
As for proof of who we are, I think it is a shame that the bandits from the NG have made you question us but there you go, thats life, I mean Yidaho cares about nothing, couldn't give a fig about anything, and yet has alot to say for somebody whos not interested!
Know something? I'm sick of your attitude. Yidaho's alright and his Big Brother photoshopping gave me plenty of laughs this year.

I don't care if you're Tommy's father or Pope John Paul. You don't have the right to go round sniping so damned much.
 
Old 21-10-2003, 21:15
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You are welcome here Weymel (in my opinion). Things did go sour over the last day but I think usually you would be treated reasonably fairly like over the last week. Same goes for End1 and Gareth.

Maybe you could contact the moderators and they might set up a page or something ? Dont know if they would be interested or not.

Im sure Kriz will set something up fine.
 
Old 21-10-2003, 21:16
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Originally posted by Edna
Know something? I'm sick of your attitude. Yidaho's alright and his Big Brother photoshopping gave me plenty of laughs this year.

I don't care if you're Tommy's father or Pope John Paul. You don't have the right to go round sniping so damned much.
Im still waiting for you to explain the post you did about my reply to Mesostim.

You will need to elaborate cos I dont exactly know who you meant or what you were implying.

Thanks
 
Old 21-10-2003, 21:22
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Originally posted by weymel
As for proof of who we are, I think it is a shame that the bandits from the NG have made you question us but there you go, thats life, I mean Yidaho cares about nothing, couldn't give a fig about anything, and yet has alot to say for somebody whos not interested!
Please credit the posters of this forum with the sense to make up their own minds. I wasn't alone in questioning the validity of your posts and/or your identity. I really don't understand why you are reacting so aggressively towards me.
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Old 21-10-2003, 21:25
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Originally posted by weymel
NOT JUST kRIZ BY THE WAY, ANYONE WHO CAN RECIEVE THE PIC
Maybe you could contact the moderators to confirm your ID in some way (without them revealing anything)

I know how you feel though, regarding the forum. Its moderated so usually things dont get too out of hand (if they are contacted in time).
 
Old 21-10-2003, 21:25
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I have to agree with Edna on this one Weymel. Nobody comes on this forum and makes me question something that has been niggling me anyway. I too wondered about all the points Eejay brough up and a few more besides. I have been too polite to ask you or your family and friends about them before on threads that you have started in the first place anyway, for the simple reason you seem to get up on your high horse when fm's do ask reasonable logical questions. Are we expected to keep using kid gloves?

You can't blame fm's for doubting who you are and for asking questions. What gets me is why not answer the questions instead of going into one, it does come over as childish behaviour at times.

As for the NG people, imho they weren't doing that much wrong, apart from their attitude at times as coming over as a bit above themselves. I think you have just read the wrong meanings into their posts and some of their points were valid.

I am not going to get into an arguement with you or take sides but instead of getting all het up why not just provide answers to reasonable questions.
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Old 21-10-2003, 21:28
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Originally posted by Edna
Know something? I'm sick of your attitude. Yidaho's alright and his

Er-hem... "her"

Big Brother photoshopping gave me plenty of laughs this year.

Irrelevant, but thanks all the same.

I don't care if you're Tommy's father or Pope John Paul. You don't have the right to go round sniping so damned much.

I also find it rather baffling, which is why I questioned in the first place. Perhaps DS:BB posters would care to check out Weymel's posts in free.uk.tv.bigbrother (aka Reformat), along with their posting history in other newsgroups, and judge for themselves.
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Old 21-10-2003, 21:31
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I thought the tone last night was bad (and continued today). There was a group of posters who I thought were pretty aggresive tho I agree End1 and Weymel said things they shouldnt have (but maybe there was history). The posters had a right to defend themself but I have to say my impression of this NG judging by the posts last night is that I dont want to visit it.

Why cant they just post what they want ? everyone else does. If it turns out not true then its been wasted time.

If they dont post anymore then who can blame them.
 
Old 21-10-2003, 21:35
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But thats just it, I have answered any question in full and honestly, there are certain things I cannot comment on (not much now the show has been aired), as for the newsgroup people, they came into a thread with the implicit reason of causing trouble, but that is passed and not worth my time.

Yidaho, I passed a comment that you have admitted several times, and that is, you don't care about Teen BB, you don't care about anything else, and I made what I thought to be a reasonable observation, and that is basically why are you bothering then? where is the aggression in that? You have posted a name a few times that I have never heard of, and it's reasonable in my opinion to ask what your problem is?
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Old 21-10-2003, 21:40
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Originally posted by Goodfella
I thought the tone last night was bad (and continued today). There was a group of posters who I thought were pretty aggresive tho I agree End1 and Weymel said things they shouldnt have (but maybe there was history). The posters had a right to defend themself but I have to say my impression of this NG judging by the posts last night is that I dont want to visit it.

Why are you judging me on what my fellow NG posters may have said in previous posts? Can you not take my posts as they were made - independently by an individual? I don't judge all DS:BB posters as one and the same. Nor should you. Nor should you judge a forum by the postings of one contributor.

Why cant they just post what they want ? everyone else does. If it turns out not true then its been wasted time.

If they dont post anymore then who can blame them.
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Oh, heavens above! I'm not asking them to stop posting. Even if I wanted them to, they have as much right as you or I to post whatever they damned well like (within TOS). As I have now said countless times, I would just like a little more evidence to substantiate their claims. Nothing more.
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