How dare you take that tone with me......You have been agressive and provocative throughout this entire time and I have politiely tried to reassure you to my intentions....no matter how many times you attempted to infer things which I had not meant and made little petty sniping remarks...."All your posts are pointless" for one memorable example....Perhaps we would have had a better time if you hadn't been so agressive to everyone who dared to ask questions........The only self appointed judge was you......Please have as little to do with me as possible in future......

The bad behavior seen on this forum recently started before I joined the debate and continued long after I decided to stay away from it........

Originally posted by tamara
I said it was up to you how you wanted to interpret it.

I stand by my decision .. I did take some time thinking about the consequences.

I don't think I am bringing attention to you.... You have done that yourself.

I wasn't given the chance to address the points that END1 had made when the original post was made. It was withdrawn before I could respond, as I have said. Your reposting was, IMO, bringing attention to what I may or may not have said. I am finding it particularly hard to ignore as I have been unfairly accused by END1.

I do think I am as unbiased as I can be given that I spend a fair amount of energy in this forum and the last thing I want it's to see it going in the same direction that other forums.

There us no such thing as "unbiased as I can be".. that statement in itself shows bias.

I grant you that perhaps in the view of others I might be seen as foolish... so there... I have became increasingly tired of spending time thinking how to word my posts trying not to offend anyone, trying to help this forum enjoyable for everybody to post independently of their views and style. I think it's time I take a break from here.

Rather than flounce couldn't you just withdraw the post, if you feel that it was made in error?

Whatever you may think of me, my intentions were never to cause trouble. Maybe I ask too many questions? Maybe I nitpick? Maybe.. But I have tried to construct all my posts with respect and haven't bad-mouthed you once. In fact, I don't believe I have been rude to or bad mouthed anyone. This is the internet and things can easily be misconstrued. Maybe this is what has happened here. I was genuinely surprised that you had reposted a comment from a withdrawn thread and, as I mention above, have resisted and continue to resist the urge to reply in a bid to keep things calm.

See you next year ... Thanks everybody.. it's has been a learning journey.

I hope you don't mean this. I would be sorry to see you go, tamara.

Well Im sorry you feel that way Mesostim. I actually dont have anything at all against you or Eejay. But I felt everything was going ok, including Eejay, until you joined the thread. Then things seemed to spiral. It wasnt your fault originally, but I cant believe you have started the stuff about needing more evidence again. Its like we have moved on from the ID threads and its always more thats needed.

I believe you have been involved in plenty of debates on the forum yourself so I just thought everyone would be under the same scrutiny.

Anyway. Its unlikely we will discuss anything again.

[quote]Originally posted by Goodfella
Well Im sorry you feel that way Mesostim. I actually dont have anything at all against you or Eejay.

Clearly you do...You have made it very obvious over a number of threads now.

But I felt everything was going ok, including Eejay, until you joined the thread.

So it's all my fault....I even corrupted Eejay. That's laughable.

Then things seemed to spiral. It wasnt your fault originally,

None of was my fault ever. Talk about kangaroo courts....

but I cant believe you have started the stuff about needing more evidence again.

Excuse me....someone made a stong allegation and I'd like it proved before we start taking it as a fact. That would have been the end of the matter until you agressively decided to cross examine me over the semantics of "blind faith".

Its like we have moved on from the ID threads and its always more thats needed.

I have had little to do with except to ask if the exclusion story is true...kind of you to scape goat me for the lot.....I hardly posted in any of the recent threads....and still you decide to blame me....????

I believe you have been involved in plenty of debates on the forum yourself so I just thought everyone would be under the same scrutiny.

Everyone is under the same scrutiny....including me when I make a wild allegation...it's either put up or shut up.....

Anyway. Its unlikely we will discuss anything again.

I think that's for the best.......

Weymel
Tamara
and now me!

Goodbye!

soon yidaho will have no one to talk to!

WILL YIDAHO LEARN FROM THAT?
WILL YIDAHO LEARN THAT SINGLE-HANDEDLY IT'S IT YIDAHO THAT HAS MESSED THIS ENTIRE BOARD UP?
WILL YIDAHO LEARN THAT THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS YIDAHO WHOLE ATTITUDE?

No! Sadly for people like yidaho they are so far into themselfs and their own self importance that people like that will NEVER learn anything!

Over to you yidaho - the whole place is yours - I won't be back whilst you are here!

Cue some brain-dead reply where yidaho over anylises every line and adds some unfriendly sarcasm of yidaho's own self-importance! :yawn:

anyone who's left - goodbye and I'll see you over on any board that yidaho thinks is beneath yidaho's intelligence!

Signing out of here, KriZ:sleep:

Before you go, Kriz, I don't suppose you could just check back a couple of pages and read my posts from today, all of which were supporting an interest in the fixing allegations?

Everything appeared friendly and ticketyboo until END1 reared his head, again. Then, to make matters worse, tamara reposted one of END1's more insulting posts after it had been deleted from the forum.

All I am guilty of is responding to these posts in a controlled and thoughful manner. I'd like you to show me otherwise, if you can.

Aw dont go Tamara

its nearly over (I think. Or maybe it is over). It only continued today for the long term good of the forum (IMHO).

I agree with your interpretation of events.

Who will do all the news and other goodies ?

Anyway. Whatever you do, all the best and its nice knowing you

Not you as well KriZ ?

things will calm down. No need to go mate (if you dont want to)

There is NO story, there is NOTHING to prove, there is NOTHING to confirm, what bit of this don't you understand?

Hi Weymel...How are you....

In answer to your question.......No I don't understand Sorry..........

well there you go... two well respected forum members so disillusioned with the events of the last two days that they are leaving the forum, at the very least temporarily...
i hope the chief protagonists in this very depressing thread feel guilty, or at least recognise their involvement. its all about taking responsibility, people...trying to recognise "the mark"...and when you've stepped over it.
thanks very much for making my (and their) digital spy forum experience just that little bit less bright.

please don't bother replying to this post, i doubt that anyone with a vested interest in denial or rebuke has got anything constructive to say to me whatsoever.

Kriz, don't go buddy, do what I am doing, answer and post when you like and how you like, and treat certain people with the contempt they deserve, I ignore them when I choose to, and don't when I choose to, now I look at it like this, they are a fly that I can swat any time I choose.I I

well there you go... that's really helpful. i'm sorry, weymel, but i have to say that some of your posts have been too inflammatory..."they are a fly" etc... that is just fuelling the fire! and it's spoiling it for the rest of us.
there are many people here who will engage you in debate for the merits of debate...
many people.

.

You keep asking for conformation of a voting or editing scam, the reason you can't get the confirmation or proof is that there was NO scam or fix.

I'm sorry, but if you think any of the HM's will come on here and say "yes this happened" or "no that happened" you will be in for a very long wait, because that is never going to happen, I think the best thing would be to let this drop, because it will never go any further, and you will just be going around in circles and it will get very boring.

And I am fine thanks, and I hope this post finds you the same, or better

I do !

I do apologise if that offended you, however I see nothing wrong with that phrase, it was directed at no particular person just a way of expression that HE is control of his own posts NOBODY else, and he can choose to post or not

My, aren't you *just wonderful*.

I've got a bit of a chesty cough but I'm not too bad thanks......

Now......I don't think any HMs appearing saying it was true would help at all Weymel....In fact we'd be back into proof territory which is clearly a cyncial mine field....I'm aware proof would always be hard to find the the conspiritor in me always wants to find it....The story is there now and the doubt has set in we'll see what happens next......

Did you ever admit to being 'Reformat'? I forget.

Huh!....I think maybe I haven't been paying attention again. Hasn't the whole point of these various threads been about TeenBB being fixed?

sorry, but you are obviously directing this at someone..."HE"..."NOBODY else"..."he can choose to post or not"

and there are quite a few people here who might think that this was directed at them, are there not...?
so this post is inflammatory as well.
please stop, people are getting quite disillusioned with these roundabout threads.

Quite a bit of it was yes.......There was a bit of stalking from a NG crowd as well though....

well in that case go back and read my original post to you and we can go round in circles again

I congratulate you on the way you handled the verification of Adele.

Which is why you should never post statements on newsgroups that a particular forum is ripping the newsgroup in question to shreds.....

And do you think you are helping by the above comments?
People can think what they like it's down to them, if the cap fits etc!