not really. The atmosphere is awful.

I dont blame them.

Yes, I did. He has "falling out of a window" shaped bruises, hasn't he?

How would you like me to be, sweetie?

Rah! A voice of reason!

socially acceptable ?

Can you draw that for me?

coz its fun. tantalize and get people begging for more

I don't know the exact nature and extent of Tommy's injuries, but not long ago I felt from a considerable height (not 3 floors) and if you had seen me it was unperceptible at first sight... but my back side was really black/blue... so no ... I don't expect and don't want to see more proof. Accuse me of lacking cynicism if you want.

i think i'll join ya tamara

And just for some late night amusement -

http://www.aoqw51.dsl.pipex.com/wrightstuff2.htm

Well! He has a dasty gash on his right arm in the photos !

At least we haven't lost our sense of humour....

You're lacking in cynicism, tamara!

A friend's eight year old daughter *jumped* from a first floor window last year, shattering her right leg, despite landing on grass. She spent weeks in hospital, followed by months of OT. Luckily, Tommy looks to have got off lightly. See? Contrary to popular belief, I don't wish Tommy any harm.

...that or my insanity !!!

Well the fact that weymel is connected with Tommy and Tommy has damage to his right arm, it's not too wild a claim to actually believe that what weymel said happend, did happen - Again as with all things there has to be a motive and there is no motive for weymel to make it up or exagerate!

About 5 years ago I had the S........ Stuff kicked out of me!
The very next day if you took my picture from the front, you would see nothing! - but in fact I couldn't walk as my back and all down my legs where black and blue where I had been kicked and stamped on !!!

yidaho.. I much rather be naive... until proven wrong. I have doubts as everybody here and It's natural. I know not everybody reacts the same way in tragic circumstances and not every fall causes the same effects. I am not particularly bothered by weymel unusual behaviour... I have just a little note about it in mind.

I am still open to find out as much as I can about this whole story. In spite of all that has being going on since yesterday, and I didn't particularly liked those threads that were deleted/edited, as a BB fan, this is a very juicy story for us to let go.

I can't see what advantage would weymel or any other family will get from posting in this forum apart from the dubious honour of being questioned in their motives, facts .... Why not let them tell their part of the story? It's up to us to believe them or not.. or ask more questions and for them to answer these questions or not. There is no obligation for any party involved.

Can you stop talking sense at this time in the morning!!!

I absolutely agree, which is why it was imperative to first establish whether or not weymel was who he claimed to be.

One thing I found puzzling was that despite making many posts claiming that TBB was manipulated and edited against Jade and Tommy, he didn't seem overly concerned that his son may have been 'done' out of a £30,000 first prize, along with the lucrative media attention that would have naturally followed.

Again, why didn't he take his stories to the National newspapers? With all due respect, this is a story bigger than DS, if there is any truth in the allegations.

There is of course a possible motive for Tommy's dad posting these claims on this message board. If we are to be fair and unbiased, it has to be considered that perhaps weymel is just an attention whore. Plenty of people get off on stuff like that. Whoever he may be, this should also be considered.

Anyway, I hope you see why I appeared so sceptical. And I truly hope someone can get to the bottom of this story, one way or another..

LOL KriZ.... It's the only time I might talk sense.. so enjoy the event

The rest of the time I talk a Scottish variety of Spanglish

I agree with some of your points. But it's precisely because of this that I think it's essential we are fair and let them tell what they know. Perhaps weymel likes the attention.... perhaps there is another explanation. He already mentioned that Tommy wasn't bothered about the trip. If anyone was shortchanged it was Jade and as far as we know Tommy and Jade aren't together. Why would weymel be fighting Jade's battles?

I have lots of questions as everybody here. DS is not big, but some journalists do visit.. so this can end up in a paper in the future.. Let's see how things develop.

I don't know if this works in English but we say something like.... why killing a hen that lays golden eggs?... In our case we have an unique opportunity to find out about the inner workings of one of our favourite programs. Some of us have had for a while strong doubts about if the editing done by Endemol was because of a favoured outcome by them. If we get answers and a way to validate them... this is good news as far as I am concerned.

But yidaho, people are different!

I don't act exactly the way you do a also the other way around.

If you were to judge my actions in a given situation, they may not go along with your way of thinking. And the way you live your life may be very very different to the way I lead mine.

So what may seem unusual to one person, is comonplace to another.

So, there may in the end, be no bottom for you to get to, as the bottom only existed to your way of thinking.

If in a given situation where I chose not to do something, and you thought that I should have, you would start making assumptions as to why I didn't live out the situation as you would have - That's because I'm not you!

Then after deciding that I hadn't lived my life according to your way, you would then start asking questions and forming oppions and getting over complex merely because I'm not you!

I think you have to (in the nicest possible way) face the fact that everyone is not strange because they don't do what you would do in a situation.

"...Some of us have had for a while strong doubts about if the editing done by Endemol was because of a favoured outcome by them"

WINNER of tonight's understatement of the year award !!!

Thankyou weymel. I believe that it was reasonable for me to ask about your ID. I appreciate the trouble you have made to verify it.

I believe my query was a reasonable one given the number of time wasters that can be found on the internet.

I think this has got way out of hand, I would like to point out that I have never once said I am related to a HM, my best friend is the mother of one of them, I dont think I stopped posting, but I got very angry when someone said something terrible about Tommys accident, but that has been removed now so end of story.
Do you really think the press are that interested in anything to do with Teen BB? there are stories popping up now about princess Di and assasination attempts, I am sure they will shove her of the paper to make room for stuff about teen bb!
Why do you find it so hard to beleive a member of a family comes on here, they are posters just like the rest of us, and surely its interesting to be told the ins and outs of the programme by people who know, when I started the families thread things went really well, there was some lovely posts, and people were genuinly interested, but it all went wrong and I wish I had never started it in the first place.
I have been in contact with weymel and he really wont be posting on here anymore, which is a shame as I thought it was nice that a member of the family could come on here and give the information that other people wouldnt know otherwise. I have seen posters asking for HM's to come on and have a chat,if someone did come on saying they were Fed, Jon, or Sissy, would you actualy beleive them? surely a relative is the next best thing.
Of course all family members expect the HM's to be slated in one way or another, thats part of the experience of going in the house, but, and this is my personal opinion only, I think its wrong to slate someone who has had an accident, Tommy really has broken his ankle, and is up to his knee is plaster, and hobbling around on crutches, the press only find out about things like this if they are told, and Tommy does not want them told, why should he, believe it or not, the press do not follow housemates around waiting for something to happen, its the same with the normal BB's, the housemates only get into the press if they push themselves forward, that is why most of them stay out of it.

It is...but we do want them to be validated don't we....The goose has laid one gorgeous looking golden egg....we should at least be able to check it over to see if it's real.....

(although this is as no disrespect to the goose..who's plummage is certainly a magnificent gold)...
Last edited by Mesostim : 22-10-2003 at 08:34