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Old 27-11-2008, 21:16
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Why is Christine and Matt doing two Latin dances, tango and the salsa this saturday, while the others are doing one Ballroom and one Latin it don't make sense

Can someone please explain, because i thought it was one ballroom and one latin dance and not 2 latin or ballroom
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Old 27-11-2008, 21:17
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since when has tango been classified as a latin dance?
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Old 27-11-2008, 21:17
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Why is Christine and Matt doing two Latin dances, tango and the salsa this saturday, while the others are doing one Ballroom and one Latin it don't make sense

Can someone please explain, because i thought it was one ballroom and one latin dance and not 2 latin or ballroom
It's the ballroom Tango.... So she is doing one latin and one ballroom.
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Old 27-11-2008, 21:17
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Why is Christine and Matt doing two Latin dances, tango and the salsa this saturday, while the others are doing one Ballroom and one Latin it don't make sense

Can someone please explain, because i thought it was one ballroom and one latin dance and not 2 latin or ballroom
Tango is ballroom
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Old 27-11-2008, 21:17
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Tango IS a Ballroom dance.
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Old 27-11-2008, 21:22
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Why is Christine and Matt doing two Latin dances, tango and the salsa this saturday, while the others are doing one Ballroom and one Latin it don't make sense

Can someone please explain, because i thought it was one ballroom and one latin dance and not 2 latin or ballroom
I do know what you mean though bingoman. Tango is the least ballroom of the ballroom dances if that makes any sense but I was told it's the hold that means it's definitely ballroom not latin.
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Old 27-11-2008, 22:14
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I do know what you mean though bingoman. Tango is the least ballroom of the ballroom dances if that makes any sense but I was told it's the hold that means it's definitely ballroom not latin.
But the Tango hold is different to every other Ballroom dance where the "frame" is paramount and the same for each one.

By the same token the Argentine Tango is totally different again.
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Old 27-11-2008, 22:51
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Hee hee.

Tango is ballroom, you can't really compare it to a Latin (though I know what you mean).
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Old 27-11-2008, 22:58
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Argentine Tango was classed as a Latin dance - The Ballroom Tango was developed as a Ballroom dance and so therefore is ballroom
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Old 27-11-2008, 23:15
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Argentine Tango was classed as a Latin dance
Was it? Seems a bit strange to me - I thought the Latins were all non-progressives?
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Old 27-11-2008, 23:18
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The Tango was initially a Latin dance and Jive was a ballroom dance, but they switched I believe.
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Old 27-11-2008, 23:24
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Short thread, thank God. Need help. Anyone. PLEASE!! Downloading music and there's a song floating thru my head, something posted a couple of days ago about Jill and Darren dancing to the song better than the pros. I thought I knew the title, but oh no. It refused. I've tried every derivision, if that's even a word I'm so brain dead at the moment and in no mood to cope with the frowny faces from a post I did earlier, before the incredibly frustrating time loop thing that's lasted 2 hours because I'm just too damn stubborn to give in, especially when I know the damn song!!!!

Lyrics, on chorus: "I love you, baby and if it's quite alright... Oh, pretty baby don't bring me down this way... let me love you, baby, let me love you... you're just too good to be true, can't take my eyes off you, you'd be like heaven to touch, I want to hold you so much, at long last love has arrived, I thank God I'm alive, you're just too good to be true, can't take my eyes off of you... da da da da da, etc....

What the f@%$ is it called please???
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Old 27-11-2008, 23:28
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Short thread, thank God. Need help. Anyone. PLEASE!! Downloading music and there's a song floating thru my head, something posted a couple of days ago about Jill and Darren dancing to the song better than the pros. I thought I knew the title, but oh no. It refused. I've tried every derivision, if that's even a word I'm so brain dead at the moment and in no mood to cope with the frowny faces from a post I did earlier, before the incredibly frustrating time loop thing that's lasted 2 hours because I'm just too damn stubborn to give in, especially when I know the damn song!!!!

Lyrics, on chorus: "I love you, baby and if it's quite alright... Oh, pretty baby don't bring me down this way... let me love you, baby, let me love you... you're just too good to be true, can't take my eyes off you, you'd be like heaven to touch, I want to hold you so much, at long last love has arrived, I thank God I'm alive, you're just too good to be true, can't take my eyes off of you... da da da da da, etc....

What the f@%$ is it called please???
That's the title in bold
'Can't Take My Eyes Of You' recorded by Andy Williams at one point, I think, probably by a million others as well.

It was the song to their showdance I believe.
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Old 27-11-2008, 23:29
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It's called "You're just too good to be true"
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Old 27-11-2008, 23:29
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The Tango was initially a Latin dance and Jive was a ballroom dance, but they switched I believe.
Actually, the whole Latin / Ballroom thing is a massively artificial divide - samba and Paso are totally different, for example.
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Old 27-11-2008, 23:32
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Thank you, thank you so much. Now I can go and get the damn song, a point of honour now, then go to bed.
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Old 28-11-2008, 00:13
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Actually, the whole Latin / Ballroom thing is a massively artificial divide - samba and Paso are totally different, for example.
The general gist of it is 'in hold' = ballroom, 'out of hold' = Latin.
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Old 28-11-2008, 04:04
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Thank you, thank you so much. Now I can go and get the damn song, a point of honour now, then go to bed.
I take it you weren't watching the results show on Sunday then?
John Barrowman was singing it!!!
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Old 28-11-2008, 11:33
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The general gist of it is 'in hold' = ballroom, 'out of hold' = Latin.
So AT, which is about as "in-hold" as it's possible to get with your clothes on, is ballroom then?
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Old 28-11-2008, 12:32
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So AT, which is about as "in-hold" as it's possible to get with your clothes on, is ballroom then?
On the tour last year, Vincent and Louisa danced the AT in the ballroom round, so I guess so!
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Old 28-11-2008, 13:10
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On the tour last year, Vincent and Louisa danced the AT in the ballroom round, so I guess so!
Ah right - didn't know that, thanks.

I can't see AT being classed as Latin really - it's clearly ballroom given the (admittedly rather silly) categorisations used. It's in hold and it's progressive. Case closed.
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Old 28-11-2008, 13:19
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So AT, which is about as "in-hold" as it's possible to get with your clothes on, is ballroom then?
Argentine tango is sort of in-between really, that's why it fits nicely in the semi-final. It's certainly in hold for a large portion, but the hold is less formal / more flexible than the waltz/foxtrot hold, and the hold is broken when the couple does a lift.

In contrast, ballroom tango is definitely ballroom - the hold is maintained throughout the dance. Its character is very different from the other ballroom dances, so I guess that's where the confusion arises.
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Old 28-11-2008, 14:09
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Argentine tango is sort of in-between really, that's why it fits nicely in the semi-final. It's certainly in hold for a large portion, but the hold is less formal / more flexible than the waltz/foxtrot hold, and the hold is broken when the couple does a lift.
Yeah, but that's Tango Fantasia - no sane person in AT ever does a lift in social dancing, it'd mean letting go of your partner.

Actually, I wonder what (if any) judging criteria are used by the judges in the AT round? Obviously, none of them are qualified to judge it, but I wonder if they're given any guidelines?

Probably not - that'd involve actual research and work by the production team.
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Old 28-11-2008, 14:15
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Ah right - didn't know that, thanks.

I can't see AT being classed as Latin really - it's clearly ballroom given the (admittedly rather silly) categorisations used. It's in hold and it's progressive. Case closed.
It's indeed an 'in-between'. It's in hold but they don't need to be in contact all the time like other ballroom numbers. It's more like a Spanish Smooth (with lifts like AS and out of hold moments), so yeah.
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Old 28-11-2008, 17:21
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Ballgowns=Ballroom, Tiny outfits made out of Baco Foil=Latin.
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