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Spoiler for 29/11/08 show 11
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libby3107
30-11-2008
I love Christine, but have had the feeling that she's been on borrowed time for the last couple of weeks. I actually voted for Lisa and Brendan last night, because her improvment is so good and Christine's peformances weren't as entertaining as Lisa's.

I thought it would be more of an injustice if Lisa had gone and now I hope she stays in until the end.

Sorry to see the adorable Christine and Matthew go, though - we are now at the stage where they should all stay in permanently
smileycat
30-11-2008
In terms of personality Christine is a great loss to the show, her and Matt had the best partnership out of the five, but in terms of dancing she ought to have gone.
arddunol
30-11-2008
I can see the Paso debate will go on for a long time .
SCDO , you are right about Ramps , and other male celebrities doing the appels , the flamenco stance etc . If I recall rightly it was only mark's 3rd dance , and no doubt he would have scored more highly and been given more complex choreography and it been week 11.

It was at least very entertaining which one the whole the entire series has not been , I would never have voted for JS but at least he was fun as was Jodie and Christine .
Tom has fun but I so so wish he was with another pro .

I think someone said last night they enjoyed three great pieces of favourite music including Carmen . Austin was not pasoing to Carmen but t a piece called Espana Cani , Spanish gypsy music. I expect it will be up on the BBC site soon .

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V6OELc...eature=related

If you want to see real fantastic flamenco try this http://www.operaflamenco.com/

I saw this in the Palau in Barcelona a few weeks ago , stunning . Watch the videos .
katkim
30-11-2008
Thank you for the spoiler, I'm very surprised to see Christine in the bottom 2. I thought she was the weakest dancer on the night, but assumed that she had massive public support and would be saved.

I'm not so surprised to see Rachel, when she was in the bottom 2 previously it was pretty obvious she didn't have the GBP support. I think it's a shame because she's one of the better dancers, but thems the rules!
musicangel
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by libby3107:
“I love Christine, but have had the feeling that she's been on borrowed time for the last couple of weeks. I actually voted for Lisa and Brendan last night, because her improvment is so good and Christine's peformances weren't as entertaining as Lisa's.

I thought it would be more of an injustice if Lisa had gone and now I hope she stays in until the end.

”

Really hope shes got past the public support hurdle!

Shes a lovely girl, and her improvement is amazing!!!
Jackster31
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by libby3107:
“I love Christine, but have had the feeling that she's been on borrowed time for the last couple of weeks. I actually voted for Lisa and Brendan last night, because her improvment is so good and Christine's peformances weren't as entertaining as Lisa's.

I thought it would be more of an injustice if Lisa had gone and now I hope she stays in until the end.

Sorry to see the adorable Christine and Matthew go, though - we are now at the stage where they should all stay in permanently”

I so agree with you on the 'Lisa improvement' part and I so hope she will be a finalist.
I reckon she's about the only one who does tackle both the latin and the ballroom to a high enough standard. With Rachel coming in a close second Unfortunately they're both not very popular with the GBP.

It definitely was Christine's time to pack up and leave the building. I didn't really care for her upper-ty-up behaviour all the time accompanied by that 'ear to ear smile' not good.
Apricot
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by arddunol:
“I do firmly believe Tom's problem is Camilla; her choreography and her failure to teach him how to dance Latin in a masculine way . The latter is , I concede , not easy , but it can be done .”

I am really coming round to your way of thinking - apols if this is covered later as I've only just come on the mb.

I was irritated last week by Camilla's utter failure to support Tom - brown-nosing the judges and agreeing with their criticisms.

Tom started off as the most wonderfully natural talent on this series - I loved his Cha Cha but his confidence has been chipped away by IMO fatuous comments by the judges - "smug", "dancing for yourself", "mincing", "leading with your arms", trying too hard". I know that's the judges' job but it has saddened me to watch Tom's self belief crumble.

Camilla must take her share of the responsibility and take some of the flak. The Samba last night should have been one of Tom's dances - but the music was execrable and the routine didn't play to his strengths. Len said it was repetitious - true! It was obvious Tom wasn't a good shimmier - yet he had to keep doing it. Why on earth didn't Camilla change the routine?

Tom, being the beautifully mannered ex-public schoolboy that he is, is desperate to please her, feels the responsibility of trying to get her to a Final and all she can do is look disappointed as if he's letting her down! (Ola has this unpleasant trait also IMO also).

Interestingly, the best dance Tom has done was the Saturday Night Fever group dance choreographed by Arlene.

I understand what you say about doing uncamp Latin - Mark managed it fantastically. I so wish Tom had been given a different partner.
Jake2008
30-11-2008
Now my fav has gone

I really want Lisa & Tom to be a final

And his waltz a 7?

JESUS!
Spinaker5
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by Apricot:
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Interestingly, the best dance Tom has done was the Saturday Night Fever group dance choreographed by Arlene.

I understand what you say about doing uncamp Latin - Mark managed it fantastically. I so wish Tom had been given a different partner.”

I think Tom was let down by Camilla's choreography last night. It was very repetitious. The Saturday Night fever routine showed him to his advantage.

Latin dancing is camp, but he only has to watch Brendan or Brian to see that it's possible to be both camp and masculine when dancing.
Liza with a Zee
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“I take it you're a Rachel fan?

Her 39 Latin score was for the rumba which is not typical of the Latin dances. In the faster numbers she's struggled (relatively - although I liked her jive and thought she was undermarked for that one).

Her paso was not sublime tonight. I don't think the judges particularly "have it in for her" any more than the others. They've all been subjected to their various idiosyncracies at one time or another. Rachel's not that great at projecting a dance which requires a strong personality and so it proved again this week.

As for what will get her to the final - I suspect that might be the judges. Lisa was favoured over Rachel tonight (although to be fair she was probably also better overall) but I think that might be a temporary measure to try to get rid Christine. The judges can still get at least one of the women to the final and I still think Rachel might be the chosen one. So don't fret.”

I agree with this I think Lisa was to be saved at all costs last night and thats why they overmarked her. She did not deserve those 10s. I do think Rachel is a far better dancer. However, I think that females seem to vote good looking males and gay men the same. This is the shows main demographic therefore I assume that they are voting mainly for Austin and Tom. I think the judges now want Lisa to win. I don't think they were ever too fussed on Rachel.
Sports Fan
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by katkim:
“Thank you for the spoiler, I'm very surprised to see Christine in the bottom 2. I thought she was the weakest dancer on the night, but assumed that she had massive public support and would be saved.

I'm not so surprised to see Rachel, when she was in the bottom 2 previously it was pretty obvious she didn't have the GBP support. I think it's a shame because she's one of the better dancers, but thems the rules!”


I said on another thread that I was sceptical of all the talk of Christine having great public support - sufficient enough to save her from the bottom two this week.

The Grand Canyon sized chasm in dancing ability between her and the other 4 was so manifestly evident yesterday, that I think even some of her core support deserted her and did not vote. It is quite possible that her public vote dropped to bottom or 2nd from bottom. I sense a general feeling that it was her time to go.

If I had to guess how the public vote panned out, I would say that the top two places went to the blokes, followed by Lisa (gaining alot of neutral votes), followed by Rachel and Christine occupying the bottom two places. My feeling is that Christine's vote just collapsed.
Lizzie8008
30-11-2008
I got the impression earlier on in the week that Christine wanted the public support to end. She said a couple of times that she felt she'd been given one last chance and that she had to deliver this week, which i took to imply that if she wasn't good enough she didn't want to be saved.

It must be difficult to be the noticeably worst dancer (albeit of a very talented group) and see more able friends go out first.
tractor1707
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by Lizzie8008:
“I got the impression earlier on in the week that Christine wanted the public support to end. She said a couple of times that she felt she'd been given one last chance and that she had to deliver this week, which i took to imply that if she wasn't good enough she didn't want to be saved.

It must be difficult to be the noticeably worst dancer (albeit of a very talented group) and see more able friends go out first.”

i agree with what u say but not the last paragraph. i think this week was time for Christine to go but she was not the worse dancer out of those who went before her (besides Cherie but her latin was not good). i thought Jodie was on par with Christine and both were going to go out at similar times as each other.
Hayfever
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by Lizzie8008:
“I got the impression earlier on in the week that Christine wanted the public support to end. She said a couple of times that she felt she'd been given one last chance and that she had to deliver this week, which i took to imply that if she wasn't good enough she didn't want to be saved.

It must be difficult to be the noticeably worst dancer (albeit of a very talented group) and see more able friends go out first.”

That is exactly how I read what Christine said as well. She was happy being there alongside even knocking out Jodie as she felt she was more or less or a par with her. But she didn't want to get into the same position as John did of the public saving her because of who she is rather than her dance ability. She is a lovely person & for her to knock one of the others out would I think have spoilt what has been a wonderful strictly experience.
Puffle
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by Liza with a Zee:
“I agree with this I think Lisa was to be saved at all costs last night and thats why they overmarked her. She did not deserve those 10s. I do think Rachel is a far better dancer. However, I think that females seem to vote good looking males and gay men the same. This is the shows main demographic therefore I assume that they are voting mainly for Austin and Tom. I think the judges now want Lisa to win. I don't think they were ever too fussed on Rachel.”

It's a shame you can't get over your bias against Lisa and Brendan to recognise an excellent dance when you see one. Lisa thoroughly deserved the 10's for the foxtrot - she did everything right and it was as good as Rachel's waltz any day - better in fact because at least we could see what Lisa was doing with her feet!
Tissy
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by Sports Fan:
“I said on another thread that I was sceptical of all the talk of Christine having great public support - sufficient enough to save her from the bottom two this week.

The Grand Canyon sized chasm in dancing ability between her and the other 4 was so manifestly evident yesterday, that I think even some of her core support deserted her and did not vote. It is quite possible that her public vote dropped to bottom or 2nd from bottom. I sense a general feeling that it was her time to go.

If I had to guess how the public vote panned out, I would say that the top two places went to the blokes, followed by Lisa (gaining alot of neutral votes), followed by Rachel and Christine occupying the bottom two places. My feeling is that Christine's vote just collapsed.”

I disagree
Christine could still have been placed 3rd in the public vote and ended up in the bottom two, despite her being the worst dancer left in the competition <imo>

Lisa 5 + 1 = 6 <or maybe 2 pts>
Austin 4 + 4 = 8
Rachel 3 + 2 = 5 <or maybe 1 pt>
Tom 2 + 5 = 7
Christine 1 + 3 = 4

Either Rachel or Lisa will be in trouble again next week if they dont top the leaderboard with the judges.
hiawatha
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by katkim:
“Thank you for the spoiler, I'm very surprised to see Christine in the bottom 2. I thought she was the weakest dancer on the night, but assumed that she had massive public support and would be saved.”

She did have massive support but they were all voting for Eggnog on the other side.
Sports Fan
30-11-2008
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“I disagree
Christine could still have been placed 3rd in the public vote and ended up in the bottom two, despite her being the worst dancer left in the competition <imo>

Lisa 5 + 1 = 6 <or maybe 2 pts>
Austin 4 + 4 = 8
Rachel 3 + 2 = 5 <or maybe 1 pt>
Tom 2 + 5 = 7
Christine 1 + 3 = 4

Either Rachel or Lisa will be in trouble again next week if they dont top the leaderboard with the judges.”

Yes of course I know that Christine could have been placed 3rd and still be in the dance-off.

But as I stated in my post, my GUESS was that she was either bottom or second from bottom. My reasoning being that her vote could have collapsed.
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