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connections to 'old' telly
Apologies if I'm in the wrong place here - - have just bought my daughter a new mini hi-fi system which included a DVD player .
Unfortunately, the only input to her TV is via the co-ax ariel lead - - no scart or svideo - - - is there a way of inputting to this TV or do I have to go and buy her a new one too ??? It ain't easy being a dad is it ??? Grateful for any help here - - - |
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unfortunately you will need to go buy a new tv, although you could try an RF Modulator which takes the scart and turns it to RF but i dont think this would work due to macrovision (copyprotection)
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Dan - thanks for the quick response, mate - - its as I thought but was reluctant to admit it ! In a bit of a fix as I convinced her that this was the type of hi-fi system she really wanted
Still, she will still be able to utilise the mp3 playing capabilities of it til I save some money - - Again, thanks for your time |
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i dont think Macrovision would be a problem - what is the make and model, you may be able to turn macrovision off?
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If macrovision was not a problem, their are some modulators here:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/mod...050&Products=1 http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/mod...505&Products=1 and the next one is a "make yourself" kit for an RF Modulator: http://www.maplin.co.uk/products/mod...600&Products=1 |
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does she have a VCR?
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Using a VCR as a modulator would be my suggestion too, but again you have to be careful with the Macrovision. Some VCR's are only affected if you try to record from a DVD player connected on the SCART input, viewing the SCART input through the modulator is OK, but others won't even let you do this. It all depends on how the circuitry is designed. If she already has a VCR with a SCART socket, it is well worth connecting this to the DVD player, selecting the SCART input on the VCR (will be something like AV1) selecting the VCR channel on the TV and then playing a DVD. It will either look fine or the picture will keep going dark and going wonky. If the latter is the case, then this particular model of VCR cannot be used as a modulator for viewing DVDs. Hope this helps.
P.S. TBH1 this is exactly the right place for such a query! |
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sorry for the delay here - - -
you are all beginning to speak a different language to me at the minute; macrovision ????RF modulators ???? Am I in an Adult Only site ?? The TV is an old Matsui 14" portable, she has no video - - -as stated, only input is for ariel. Gonna go and get my translation dictionary to see what your all talking about. |
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djchrissy - -just bin on the Maplin link you mentioned; if this inputs to ariel socket then this should be just what I'm looking for - - won't need the audio inputs, just the video one. Gonna locate my nearest Maplin store and have a look.
If I mention this problem to them, will they know what I'm on about do you think ?? |
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OK - let's get back to basics...
(Who said that before?) Do we assume that the HiFi/DVD - is it a Sanyo by any chance - has no RF or aerial sockets? If so, we need to look at converting from whatever video output on the back of the DVD player there is to your TV which only has an aerial socket. We can assume that sound is handled by the new unit. The quick and dirty way is to feed a VCR from a SCART or other video output on the back of the DVD player and then connect the aerial on the VCR to the TV. But - an anti copying system designed to stop copying video tapes might - or might not disable the DVD pictures. You really need to tell us what sockets are on the back of the DVD/HiFi unit to make any progress... More info please. |
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Jim - the book of instructions specifically says not to route via vcr ( which she hasn't got anyway) - - the two outputs are s-video and video, the cable for the latter is supplied, just a cable with a yellow plug on each end
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Right - now we know.
The S Video socket is not going to help you at all. The yellow "composite" video socket is not really going to solve the problem either, without some investment. You need a new TV - even a cheap one at around £70 - which has a video in through the yellow socket . Some fairly cheap portables - see Argos, Comet etc, have these yellow sockets for camcorders with red and white sockets for stereo sound. I can't see any other way of connecting the two devices.. |
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Jim, again, thanks for this - -was hoping for slightly better news but I thought this would be the only answer, though I am gonna pop into Maplis, when I can find one.
Nobbin off to bed now so will look here again tomorrow - - -and thanks to all. |
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Do you know why it says not to connect the DVD through a video? Just curious, because I do - are you not meant to on any player?!?!?!
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yes, macrovision screws the signal in some cases
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Well I connect my Acoustic Solutions DVD upto my BUSH VCR, the VCR then modulates the signal, and pumps it up into a signal booster - one feed from the booster goes to the Thomson TV downstairs, which displays fine on the video channel, however I tuned my BUSH TV in upstairs, and all I get is a black and white screen. Connections are fine, as I run a GDB2 from that ariel feed, and I get 95% signal across the muxes, and a good, interference-free picture. Any ideas why it is in black and white?
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I got a toshiba 14" to replace my old sony, its great, its got SCART at the back and audio/vidio in at the front
£90 from argos and currys buts its always more money as i have learnt |
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Originally posted by TBH1 Sorry for going too fast!!sorry for the delay here - - - you are all beginning to speak a different language to me at the minute; macrovision ????RF modulators ???? Am I in an Adult Only site ?? The TV is an old Matsui 14" portable, she has no video - - -as stated, only input is for ariel. Gonna go and get my translation dictionary to see what your all talking about. A modulator is a device which converts separate audio/video signals (AF - audio frequency) into an RF (Radio Frequency) signal which you can feed into the aerial socket on any TV. VCR's and some DVD players and Sky/Freeview boxes have them built-in, and you can also buy one separately. The £19.99 one from Maplin's which djchrissy has posted a link to should suit your needs fine. Macrovision is a little more complicated - basically it uses a bit of circuitry which almost all VCRs have to screw up the picture to discourage people from making copies onto VHS. Viewing DVD's through some VCR's will screw up the picture as well, on others it won't (as I said, it depends how the circuitry is designed). If you do go to Maplin's to buy a modulator, tell them exactly what it will be used for - i.e. watching DVDs on a TV which only has an aerial socket, and they should be able to tell you whether it will work or not (the Macrovision might make the picture keep going dark). Best to check with them that they'll take it back and give a refund or change it if the Macrovision causes a problem. Definately no need to splash out on a new TV yet though. |
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gonna track down a Maplins tomorrow - - take a print of this thread too methinks in case they think I'm talkin bollox - -which I pprobably will be if I need to remember this stuff.
Thanks to all here. |
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I am not in favour of using modulators, but if that is your preferred solution here's something to ponder on...
You need to choose an RF channel for the DVD to use. But you are already committed (we assume) to five terrestial channels, so you will have to tune your DVD through the modulator well away from the existing channels, which can also give off harmonics (more interference) on other channels in top of their own outputs. So instead of spending £20 on a slightly risky solution, why not spend a bit more - it's Christmas soon after all - on a nice new TV set from one of the big supermarkets at seventy quid or so. Asda ones even have a three year guarantee! You can then use a S-Video to SCART converter and get a lovely clear picture, while the sound comes out of the HiFi bit. Then you can enjoy your Christmas DVDs as they should be seen and heard... |
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Jim Rae - - you ain't been speakin to my daughter have you ???
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No, but you know that you would get mega brownie points by following my suggestion - and just a funny look when you arrive with a new modulator...
Just think of watching Lord of the Rings through a modulator - not what the director intended at all! |
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think there's a conspiracy goin' on here - - -
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yes but what if the old TV Breaks?
all new tvs have scarts, so that £25 on an rf mod would be a lemon! and you would have to fork out anouther £70 for a tv, making it £95! wasted £25! TUT TUT TUT!
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Still, she will still be able to utilise the mp3 playing capabilities of it til I save some money - -