The I-Phone Killer has arrived

daclick · 02-12-2008, 09:17

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...th_QWERTY_.php

Post your thoughts here after vieweing

Vellocet · 02-12-2008, 09:22

hmm nah

Martin Blank · 02-12-2008, 09:29

Mmm nice, i want one. I wonder if 3 will be giving these away by march?

jammers · 02-12-2008, 09:38

Hmmm OS X or Series 60 - no contest.

omipalone · 02-12-2008, 09:51

Give the HTC Touch HD a look - I love mine & at least with the Touch I can send picture messages and shoot video (something the iPhone can't do)

Comparison of the alleged iPhone Killers Linky

daclick · 02-12-2008, 10:01

im excited bout the n97 oly problem is im not used to a qwerty keyboard, ive got a n95 atm its gonna be a scary change but i will make it when its released

flagpole · 02-12-2008, 10:02

that i would buy. i've been thinking that the n96 isn't enough of an improvement on my n95-2 to be bothered.

But the N97 does seem to offer a functional upgrade.

lawrenma2 · 02-12-2008, 10:09

Looks suspiciously like the iPhone as you would expect but I guess it depends on the cost whether or not it would be a serious rival.

BT@home · 02-12-2008, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawrenma2

Looks suspiciously like the iPhone as you would expect but I guess it depends on the cost whether or not it would be a serious rival.

???? What makes you think it looks like iPhone? I can't seen anything apart from the fact they both have a screen.

daclick · 02-12-2008, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT@home

???? What makes you think it looks like iPhone? I can't seen anything apart from the fact they both have a screen.

Its just a title, jeez.

Its better than 6+1 = 7 n97 has arrived

neo6776 · 02-12-2008, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by jammers

Hmmm OS X or Series 60 - no contest in my opinion.

Fixed that for you...

BT@home · 02-12-2008, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by daclick

Its just a title, jeez.

My comment was directed towards the "Looks suspiciously like the iPhone" comment. I can;t seen anything that makes it "look" like the iPhone. Specs and comparisons are fine, but "looks" ??

TheSoulBrother · 02-12-2008, 11:43

A few points

1. Fairly impressive specs, as you would expect from an N-series device.

2. It arrives most likely mid 09. Should be new HW revisions from all the manufacturers by then.

3. Resistive touch screen, not capacitive. A decision I cannot understand.

4. Where is the developer story? If its just widgets then thats a fail.

5. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to S60.

TheSoulBrother · 02-12-2008, 11:56

Via Gizmodo
"but the drawbacks of a resistive touchscreen (there, as always, to ensure character recognition via a stylus for Nokia's Asian market) were immediately noticeable when dragging widgets around the desktop."

Ah, so thats the reason for manufacturers consistently putting out resistive touchscreens rather than capacitive. Good piece of info.

MrKev · 02-12-2008, 12:04

Resistive means no sale tbh.

If I go back to my DS Lite these days I utterly hate the touch screen. Less clear, less responsive.

MrKev · 02-12-2008, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by omipalone

Give the HTC Touch HD a look - I love mine & at least with the Touch I can send picture messages and shoot video (something the iPhone can't do)

It's something it can't do out of the box, but something it can do very easily.

Finglonga · 02-12-2008, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by daclick

The I-Phone Killer has arrived

Thought it was the Nokia 3310.

02-12-2008, 12:20

Quote:

???? What makes you think it looks like iPhone? I can't seen anything apart from the fact they both have a screen.

I don't know . . .the chrome around the outside? . . .the fact they're pretty much identical except it's white?

Anyway it seems quite chunky since it has a keypad and also runs Symbian.

So - no - it won't be an iPhone killer.

The next iPhone killer will be. . . .well. . . .the next iPhone.

daclick · 02-12-2008, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by BT@home

My comment was directed towards the "Looks suspiciously like the iPhone" comment. I can;t seen anything that makes it "look" like the iPhone. Specs and comparisons are fine, but "looks" ??

Sorry

daclick · 02-12-2008, 14:56

Tbh i think id prefer to see it in black.

Any photoshop wizards do the magic??

MrKev · 02-12-2008, 15:10

Some extra information:

http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...ds-on/1196876/
http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...ds-on/1196875/

Gallery there. Looks very thick there - almost twice an iPhone.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/02/n...ideo-hands-on/

Video of black version.

mjdj1689 · 03-12-2008, 06:32

Thing is when this phone comes out most new phone will be upto 8 meg on the camera and nokia are still using 5 meg.

03-12-2008, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by omipalone

Give the HTC Touch HD a look - I love mine & at least with the Touch I can send picture messages and shoot video (something the iPhone can't do)

Comparison of the alleged iPhone Killers Linky

Yeah but its got windows mobile on it, which is slow and buggy.

TheSoulBrother · 03-12-2008, 19:01

I've actually being playing with the Touch HD and the Xperia for the past week. The biggest problem with the Touch HD is the actual touchscreen. Three things kill it for me

1. resistive - simply not as responsive as the iPhone screen
2. no popup keys on the onscreen keyboard. so you often dont know you hit the wrong key until after you release.
3. spell correction is horrific. significantly less intelligent than the iPhones.

add to that WinMob just isnt designed for touch from a UI perspective and you have a second rate experience.

My worry is that the N97 will also have these same problems.

Vellocet · 04-12-2008, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo6776

Fixed that for you...

How was that fixed? Of course it was their opinion, by the very fact they said it, no need to add at the end "in my opinion" no need to state the obvious

02-12-2008, 09:17	#1
daclick Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,336	The I-Phone Killer has arrived http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...th_QWERTY_.php Post your thoughts here after vieweing

02-12-2008, 09:22	#2
Vellocet Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: In Transit Posts: 590	hmm nah

02-12-2008, 09:29	#3
Martin Blank Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The South Posts: 1,630	Mmm nice, i want one. I wonder if 3 will be giving these away by march?

02-12-2008, 09:38	#4
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	Hmmm OS X or Series 60 - no contest.

02-12-2008, 09:51	#5
omipalone Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 11,587	Give the HTC Touch HD a look - I love mine & at least with the Touch I can send picture messages and shoot video (something the iPhone can't do) Comparison of the alleged iPhone Killers Linky

02-12-2008, 10:01	#6
daclick Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,336	im excited bout the n97 oly problem is im not used to a qwerty keyboard, ive got a n95 atm its gonna be a scary change but i will make it when its released

02-12-2008, 10:02	#7
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	that i would buy. i've been thinking that the n96 isn't enough of an improvement on my n95-2 to be bothered. But the N97 does seem to offer a functional upgrade.

02-12-2008, 10:09	#8
lawrenma2 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 3,772	Looks suspiciously like the iPhone as you would expect but I guess it depends on the cost whether or not it would be a serious rival.

02-12-2008, 10:13	#9
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	Quote: Originally Posted by lawrenma2 Looks suspiciously like the iPhone as you would expect but I guess it depends on the cost whether or not it would be a serious rival. ???? What makes you think it looks like iPhone? I can't seen anything apart from the fact they both have a screen.

02-12-2008, 11:17	#10
daclick Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,336	Quote: Originally Posted by BT@home ???? What makes you think it looks like iPhone? I can't seen anything apart from the fact they both have a screen. Its just a title, jeez. Its better than 6+1 = 7 n97 has arrived

02-12-2008, 11:19	#11
neo6776 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Dundee, Scotland ♂ Posts: 9,026	Quote: Originally Posted by jammers Hmmm OS X or Series 60 - no contest in my opinion. Fixed that for you...

02-12-2008, 11:22	#12
BT@home Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,911	Quote: Originally Posted by daclick Its just a title, jeez. My comment was directed towards the "Looks suspiciously like the iPhone" comment. I can;t seen anything that makes it "look" like the iPhone. Specs and comparisons are fine, but "looks" ??

02-12-2008, 11:43	#13
TheSoulBrother Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,940	A few points 1. Fairly impressive specs, as you would expect from an N-series device. 2. It arrives most likely mid 09. Should be new HW revisions from all the manufacturers by then. 3. Resistive touch screen, not capacitive. A decision I cannot understand. 4. Where is the developer story? If its just widgets then thats a fail. 5. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to S60.

02-12-2008, 11:56	#14
TheSoulBrother Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,940	Via Gizmodo "but the drawbacks of a resistive touchscreen (there, as always, to ensure character recognition via a stylus for Nokia's Asian market) were immediately noticeable when dragging widgets around the desktop." Ah, so thats the reason for manufacturers consistently putting out resistive touchscreens rather than capacitive. Good piece of info.

02-12-2008, 12:04	#15
MrKev Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham Posts: 1,636	Resistive means no sale tbh. If I go back to my DS Lite these days I utterly hate the touch screen. Less clear, less responsive.

02-12-2008, 12:06	#16
MrKev Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham Posts: 1,636	Quote: Originally Posted by omipalone Give the HTC Touch HD a look - I love mine & at least with the Touch I can send picture messages and shoot video (something the iPhone can't do) It's something it can't do out of the box, but something it can do very easily.

02-12-2008, 12:12	#17
Finglonga Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Stafford. Posts: 4,706	Quote: Originally Posted by daclick The I-Phone Killer has arrived Thought it was the Nokia 3310.

02-12-2008, 12:20	#18
aaronon Posts: n/a	Quote: ???? What makes you think it looks like iPhone? I can't seen anything apart from the fact they both have a screen. I don't know . . .the chrome around the outside? . . .the fact they're pretty much identical except it's white? Anyway it seems quite chunky since it has a keypad and also runs Symbian. So - no - it won't be an iPhone killer. The next iPhone killer will be. . . .well. . . .the next iPhone.

02-12-2008, 14:52	#19
daclick Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,336	Quote: Originally Posted by BT@home My comment was directed towards the "Looks suspiciously like the iPhone" comment. I can;t seen anything that makes it "look" like the iPhone. Specs and comparisons are fine, but "looks" ?? Sorry

02-12-2008, 14:56	#20
daclick Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,336	Tbh i think id prefer to see it in black. Any photoshop wizards do the magic??

02-12-2008, 15:10	#21
MrKev Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham Posts: 1,636	Some extra information: http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...ds-on/1196876/ http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...ds-on/1196875/ Gallery there. Looks very thick there - almost twice an iPhone. http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/02/n...ideo-hands-on/ Video of black version.

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The I-Phone Killer has arrived

03-12-2008, 06:32	#22
mjdj1689 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2,470	Thing is when this phone comes out most new phone will be upto 8 meg on the camera and nokia are still using 5 meg.

03-12-2008, 12:13	#23
Sulriss Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by omipalone Give the HTC Touch HD a look - I love mine & at least with the Touch I can send picture messages and shoot video (something the iPhone can't do) Comparison of the alleged iPhone Killers Linky Yeah but its got windows mobile on it, which is slow and buggy.

03-12-2008, 19:01	#24
TheSoulBrother Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,940	I've actually being playing with the Touch HD and the Xperia for the past week. The biggest problem with the Touch HD is the actual touchscreen. Three things kill it for me 1. resistive - simply not as responsive as the iPhone screen 2. no popup keys on the onscreen keyboard. so you often dont know you hit the wrong key until after you release. 3. spell correction is horrific. significantly less intelligent than the iPhones. add to that WinMob just isnt designed for touch from a UI perspective and you have a second rate experience. My worry is that the N97 will also have these same problems.

04-12-2008, 15:57	#25
Vellocet Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: In Transit Posts: 590	Quote: Originally Posted by neo6776 Fixed that for you... How was that fixed? Of course it was their opinion, by the very fact they said it, no need to add at the end "in my opinion" no need to state the obvious