We were trying to be kind.

There are certainly much worse words that "flirt" we could have used.

What particularly annoys me about her behaviour is that she's never even bothered to apologise for it. Probably sees nothing wrong with it in fact!

I have read some of the posts with interest and just passed over some of the others as per usual.
As far as I can see you have not actually replied to my query?
You use speech marks as though you are a reporter-is it some journalists white rabbit or do you "have it on tape" still-scary scary.
No one else has also asked so do they not know either or are they too timid to ask?

Its a direct lift from a report done at the time.

A number of people have suggested that you could usefully read the excellent archive of material from BB3 on this site rather than expect other posters to explain everything to you. That's what I did when I first joined DS. You haven't bothered. But the majority of posters here are aware of the contemporaneous reports. Its why I didn't feel I needed to explain where it came from, most people will have known.

Who would ever have time for that???? Not me certainly and I expect not you.(and what if there are many lies in there)
Anyway the important thing is what people think now or in the future?Raking up old threads is fairly pointless unless you know where they are and still make a specific point.

New members like me will not know the whole history of this site and they do not need do-they are entitled to their opinion and can investigate facts upon which to base them.

I don't care whether you read the archive or not or my posts/thread either come to that. You demanded a reply and you got one, end of story. :sleep:

Sums Kate up really. I remember watching one night when Kate was telling Jade all about a three-some she had taken part in and said of it (something along the lines of) "I'm not a slag like other girls who have three-somes"

Erm...why not? If Kate believes girls who involve themselves in sexual three-somes are slags, then she, by her own definition is a slag.

We still have not really established whether this is correctly reported or not?
Kate got on very well with Jade for the whole 9 weeks they were in that claustrophobic house-they seemed to be genuinely fond of each other-or so it seemed to me.
They had the odd arguement -bit heated at times-but some friends are like that-they always seemed to "kiss and make up"together.
From memory I think Kate nominated Jade a bit -when she finally overheard some others dissing Jade for gossiping behind peoples backs-and given Kate had no reason to nominate anyone other than Alex -it was the easy thing to do-but no one takes nominations too seriousely do they?

We have. Long since.

And as for Kate and Jade getting on very well in the house....... the mind boggles!

OK
But at the risk of going round in circles-what "report"?

From where -written by who? why? was it correctly reported?

Do you have it on tape?

I've answered this 3 times. The fact that you can't be bothered to read or understand any of those posts does not mean that I have to answer the same thing over and over again. I certainly don't plan to do so. :sleep:

Vilt take a look at this link

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds2053.html

That should put an end to your confusion - hopefully .........

Thanks for that.
But is it valid?
Was it posted at the time?
Is the source reliable?
Did anyone see it on TV at the time?
Anyone "got it on tape"????

No, of course it's not true. The DSBB reporters who generously gave up their time to do live updates during the show always lied and misrepresented what they saw. They could be confident, of course, that it wouldn't be noticed because no-one else was actually watching the show - or posting on this forum indeed - especially during the most popular series ever, BB3.

So Neil's report is obviously accurate

But i don't know why you read so much into it

Didn't Jade spend the whole nine weeks going round from HM to HM back-stabbing the others

No doubt after this little tete-a-tete with Lee she probably sidled up to Alison to tell her that she didn't trust Lee as far as she could throw him

Jade might have said it - it doesn't make it true

Don't forget that the HMs eventually saw through Jade when they started comparing notes about what she had said to each of them about the others. They knew the score - ALL of them voted to evict her that week, and she was only saved by blatant mis-editing by C4 and a preposterous campaign by their chums on the tabloids to make poor Adele carry the can

Have a look at my original post. It wasn't anti-Kate. I posted the report because I was surprised to see that the flirting allegation originated with Jade. The question then arises, was Jade stirring or unusually perceptive on this occasion. Both are possible and I was interested to hear what others thought. Looking at Kate's later behaviour on BB and outside I think the latter more likely but others would no doubt disagree.

As it turns out, I thought the best response on this whole thread was alana's - "What tits?" Well said alana.

Fair enough, darling. Your reputation for impartiality in the great debate is legendary

But this bit, your second post -:

What ever way you look at it, she's perceptive that Jade

might suggest that you thought Jade was right. Only to those who don't know you obviously.

Well, now that Katie appears to be 'under the thumb' of Hermann Munster, her flirting days could be over.

Boy band managers will sleep a lot better in their beds tonight

My first post was impartial.

By the second, I'd had time to weigh up the pros and cons and arrive at a thoughtful and considered judgement.

The great hidden antagonism of the week before the first nominations only became clear when Adele gave her reason for nominating Kate. The reason given was that she thought Kate wanted Jade. The logical inference was that Adele fancied /wanted Jade. Given that Jade said bad things about everyone (name one she didn't?) and repeated ideas Adele dropped into her "brain" you can't read much into the early quote about Kate - she always said what she thought her listener wanted to hear.

The Jade - Adele- Alex-Kate relationship is one of the less discussed features of BB3 but its arguable that the breakdown of the relationship between the first two in the quartet and the strengthening of the Adele/Alex -Kate bond that follows is what determines that Kate never faces Jonny in a public vote and that was the only vote I think she might not have won before the last couple of weeks.

The flirting thing is a nonsense - even if the word could be defined. Adele 'flirted' with Alex. Lee, Jade and Kate. Alex flirted with Adele, Kate and some would say Tim. He tried to manipulate Jade much as Adele had but, to be fair, it was hardly flirting .Jade flirted with Adele, PJ, Spencer and desperately even had goes for Alex and Jonny. Kate 'flirted' with Spencer and Alex and had a good relationship with Jonny and PJ. She liked Adele enough to build a good enough relationship with Adele to negate the major threat to her. Kate didn't flirt with Lee - she said he was the only one she didn't find attractive and her avoidance of Tim after she went out of her way to make him feel welcome was one of the funnier parts of the show. Lee believed that everyone should flirt with him though which is why he believed she wanted him too. Tim was even reported to be hunting Kate - but she prefered the carrot cake to the carrot top.

I would be very careful about questioning the integrity of the DS staff on a DS forum if I were you.

Well said, networkbabe

Take any group of a dozen 20-somethings, put them in a holiday situation, ply them with booze, bore them rigid with lack of activity or opportunity to go out or do anything

OMG - they're flirting

Why anyone should think that flirting under these circumstances reveals some great strategical or tactical plan is beyond me - it's just normal behaviour writ large because of the situation they are in

In any case it would be very bad tactics to flirt to avoid nominations - chances are you will only antagonise the ones you don't flirt with, be seen to be 'playing the game' or 'playing to the cameras' - all capital offences in BB world.

Just think of the average office - don't the people there flirt with each other all day long, and they theoretically have something to occupy them !!

What people objected to about Kate's behaviour was flirting - which let us not forget included snogging and groping - whilst at the same time nominating. I don't consider that normal behaviour personally but I do accept that others are entitled to think differently.

I think we can assume that Alex thinks as I do on this point, however, since he acted very differently towards her.

Yes, darling, the only 'difficult' week is when they were down to the last 5

Before that, Kate and Alex were'nt getting on and her nomming him was natural

It was only really during that last couple of weeks that Kate AND Alex were snogging and cavorting, led by Alex taking the initiative and crawling into Katie's bed at night ( you might say he was desperate by then, and it was Kate or Jade )

Kate wouldn't nominate Jonny, so she was left with picking two out of three between Tim, Alex and Jade

Given that she was going to pick Tim, it was a choice between Alex and Jade

I think she didn't nom Jade because she wanted to keep another girl in, despite their ups and downs

Also she, and the others, all knew that Tim would go regardless of who he was up against, so in effect the vote for Alex was a 'wasted vote'

That's my spin on it, anyway

Its possible to spin almost anything. But if I really found myself up close and personal with anyone that thought the way Kate appears to, I'd run as far and as fast as I could.

Again, Alex seems to think similarly, but others clearly disagree.

Good luck to them I say. They may well need it. :sleep:

She put her hand down his trunks and "fondled" him. I'm not altogether clear how that, for instance, translates into "Alex taking the initiative"........

If I acted that way with a bloke I'd expect him to assume that I liked him rather more than most and certainly more than a girl I never particularly liked at all. You and Kate think differently. Fair enough. :sleep:

Hardly a crime is it?
and I have seen no evidence that it was anyway.

It was a bit of amusing retaliation in fact as I seem to remember he kept pinching Kate so that she couldn't get to sleep.

Not sure exactly what the second paragraph means but if I read it right I AGREE with you!

It is obvious that by then Kate appeared to trust Alex absolutely as a new friend.
And quite rightly-as shown several more times including the last night.(ie she really liked PJ but I doubt she trusted him in the same way)

So why did Alex have a go at her and then betray her outside the house then?
Two faced or what??

(That ad was toilet by the way.)