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Battle of the ATs (WARNING: SPOILER WITHIN)
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Lorelei Lee
07-12-2008
So, now we know who'll be dancing them, what are you looking forward to from the Argentine Tangos?

These should be the best test yet for all three of the couples - and I mean both sides of each.

Camilla's attempt last year for Gethin was rubbish, so I'm hoping she does a better job this year for Tom, who should suit this one down to the ground.

Obviously Vincent will be in his element, but will Rachel?

And I think I'll be looking forward to Lisa's most of all - can't wait to see how Brendan tackles the choreography for this one.

IMO this dance is the best test of skill, chemistry and choreography on SCD, and it'll be fascinating to see how everyone responds.

PS It's my works Xmas do next week, so could someone make sure these go on Youtube? My recorder box is a little unreliable...
Wiz Net
07-12-2008
If they are doing AT Vincent and Rachel will be in their element. I'm sorry but Camilla's AT is woeful.
Psychosis
07-12-2008
"will Rachel"? They got 39 out of 40 for the two dances with the most similar atmosphere to the AT - the tango and the rumba. I think she's more than up for it. With Rachel as the celeb partner and the AT champion as the pro partner, anything less than perfection will be a dismal failure.
allisonbm2
07-12-2008
I'm looking forward to Brendan's (obviously as a B fan!) purely because I've waited so long to see him have a go at it. I'm obviously hoping Vincents will be great (and it should be) but I wasn't awfully keen on Flavia's last year. I quite liked Camilla's last year but for her awful costume . Last year Alesha did the best one by a mile so it doesn't necessarily go that the expert will produce the better one.
Gill P
07-12-2008
It is only your opinion that Gethin's Argentine Tango was rubbish. I thought it was great. The judges obviously thought it was OK as he got four 9s!

I doubt Camilla choreographed it anyway! In fact I doubt Brendan will choreograph their's!
DavidJames
07-12-2008
Oooh, good thread!

Originally Posted by Wiz Net:
“If they are doing AT Vincent and Rachel will be in their element.”

Yes, probably.

We've not seen Vincent do AT with a celeb before - but here's a vid from the SCD live tour wirh Louisa Lytton:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpsNYegsk84

I reckon the AT should suit Rachel down to the ground.

Originally Posted by Wiz Net:
“I'm sorry but Camilla's AT is woeful.”

Camilla's effort with Gethin from last year is here:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NP2ufCSVNYw

It's not that bad - in some ways it was the best of the lot. Although her outfit was bleugh.
Wiz Net
07-12-2008
The problem with Gethin's AT was Camilla. I was trying to avoid saying this because it relate's to someone's appearance. The AT is meant to be sexy and voluptuous and the woman's legs are a vital part of it. Camilla's legs are very thin and they just look - wrong...
Gill P
07-12-2008
Quote:
“The AT is meant to be sexy and voluptuous”

That is probably one of the reasons why Mark and Karen's was so spectacular. Another being that the celebrities hadn't done it before.
SaraV1308
07-12-2008
The quality of the ATs will depend on which out of the advisers/consultants coaches Brendan/Lisa and Camilla/Tom. Kele and Ralf who run a dance school in West London are consultants on Strictly for the ATs and I understand have done the choreography for the ATs over the past few years. The only one they didnt choreograph (for obvious reasons) was Flavia and Matt's although I do believe they were available to help.

Vincent will be in his element and after the tango last night (which anyone who has seen them dance a ballroom tango had Flavia's influence and help all over) and because the AT has to be a dance that the man controls it should be good - and will no doubt have Flavia's help with Rachel too.
anna123
07-12-2008
RAchel and Vincents AT will probably win the show for rachel
katie_p
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by anna123:
“RAchel and Vincents AT will probably win the show for rachel”

I hope so, Vincent has been a star this series and helped Rachel produce some fab performances. I wouldn't mind Tom winning either, but I'm not sure the AT will suit him. However I think his place in the final is fairly safe, and I'm sure he'll pull out all the stops then.
StrictlyMoo
07-12-2008
I'm looking foward to Tom & Camilla's, as his Tango was amazing. IMO anyway.

Rachel will pull off a good technical performance but it'll still leave me cold.
bitchy_me
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Oooh, good thread!


Yes, probably.

We've not seen Vincent do AT with a celeb before - but here's a vid from the SCD live tour wirh Louisa Lytton:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpsNYegsk84

I reckon the AT should suit Rachel down to the ground.



Camilla's effort with Gethin from last year is here:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NP2ufCSVNYw

It's not that bad - in some ways it was the best of the lot. Although her outfit was bleugh.”

Gosh! I think Rachel and Vincent will definitely secure a place in the final if Rachel can pull off anything near that performance!
HeidiB
07-12-2008
I know that the dance should be everything but I do think that having the right look helps enormously. I have to agree that Camilla looks all wrong in that AT with Gethin.
CASPER1066
07-12-2008
who really cares.......they all get 10 no matter what......so they can be good ,bad or indifferent.......show has turned in to a farce.............
DavidJames
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by Wiz Net:
“The AT is meant to be sexy and voluptuous and the woman's legs are a vital part of it. Camilla's legs are very thin and they just look - wrong...”

To be fair, with the exception of people like Monica of Ocampo, most AT professionals are also snake-thin. But I just think that outfit did her no favours.
Psychosis
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“To be fair, with the exception of people like Monica of Ocampo, most AT professionals are also snake-thin. But I just think that outfit did her no favours.”

Camilla is the most tall, straight, stick thin of all the pros though. The other girl shave some shape to them, especially people like Lilia and Ola.
musicangel
07-12-2008
Mark and karens always will be amazing!
Kyle123
07-12-2008
I just discovered that Matt and Flavia actually got the lowest score last year at this!

I thought Vincent and Flavia were the best AT going, so im surprised by that!
Sports Fan
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by anna123:
“RAchel and Vincents AT will probably win the show for rachel”


Rachel and Vincent for me, but I wouldn't go that far. Rachel has to maintain the momentum she's gained over the last few weeks by producing the goods again next week and making sure she tops the leaderboard.

I've no doubt she'll be able to cope with whatever Vincent throws at her, but Vincent's choreography and music choice will be equally as important.
rij
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“We've not seen Vincent do AT with a celeb before - but here's a vid from the SCD live tour wirh Louisa Lytton:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DpsNYegsk84”

Wow, I haven't seen this before. Loved it....thanks for posting. We can only hope for a similar standard with Rachel next week. So pleased Vincent finally got to stay long enough to do an AT.
kazmson
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by Wiz Net:
“The problem with Gethin's AT was Camilla. I was trying to avoid saying this because it relate's to someone's appearance. The AT is meant to be sexy and voluptuous and the woman's legs are a vital part of it. Camilla's legs are very thin and they just look - wrong...”

The problem wasn't whether her legs were skinny or not...the problem was how she was moving them...it was a technique thing.

But I agree with DavidJames...Gethin and Camilla's AT was the best last series. Gethin did a great job...and it looked as if he understood the point of the dance and the whole lead follow/walking thing...none of the others last year managed that imo.

(Emma's AT was very good too ... although Darren looked a bit unsure and was concentrating a bit to hard in some sections.He even looked at the floor .LOL But it was a fab routine with lots of "content" )

I reckon Vincent will do a fantastic AT with Rachel...I'm just hoping he will think along the lines of the rumba choregraphically and not go for too much "Flavia style jumping". Something intimate, softer....

I loved their ballroom tango ....so really looking forward to it
welwynrose
07-12-2008
I'm really looking forward to seeing what Brendan does with the AT as it'll be his first attempt at it in SCD - some of his cheography this year has been brilliant and I think he may do a really good AT with Lisa
mia75
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Camilla's effort with Gethin from last year is here:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NP2ufCSVNYw.”


Dear god if Gethin had looked at me, the way he was looking at her during that, my knees would have buckled lol.

Camilla did well all things considered
Chris1347
07-12-2008
OP obviously watched a different AT Camilla and Geth's was lovely last year and scored 36! It is a subtle dance - which is what Camilla achieved, not sure it will be the same with Tom this year - he doesn't do subtle!
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