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SPOILER ALERT. Sorry to say this but I blame the pro...
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ESPIONdansant
07-12-2008
Austin's AS was shockingly dull.
AS has the potential to be a show-stopper.
I was supporting Austin and even I thought it was p@nts.
Erin is a ballroom specialist and this should have had plenty of WOW-factor.

Anyone could have ended up in the dance-off and the AS should be a real vote-winner.

She knew the writing was on the wall when the marks weren't high. Poor show, Erin.
Shappy
07-12-2008
I think Erin gets too much credit as one of the best teachers on SCD. She did well with Colin who was naturally a fantastic dancer but otherwise her latin is weak.
azucena
07-12-2008
I just don't get WHY it wasn't choreographed better. Were they being complacent, thinking "oh it'll be fine", and spent all their practice time on the salsa instead? Was Austin haven't trouble/ injury problems during the week?

Erin is fully capable, at least technically, of choreographing an amazing AS, and after the paso last week she should've learnt that a bit of sparkle and a wow factor is what you need to get the high marks from craig and arlene... but it was so meh!

And this is from another Austin supporter.
Jackster31
07-12-2008
What about that salsa then I mean Erin was as shocking as Austin in it.
Keeping in mind she's a ballroom dancer I still feel she wasn't up to 'pro par'

Good riddens to both:sleep:
ElectraPalatine
07-12-2008
Would agree, all vaguely disappointing. But I do wonder whether Austin was just so knackered he couldn't raise the enthusiasm to perform. Never been a huge fan of Erin's, though I generally favour ballroom over latin.
ESPIONdansant
07-12-2008
I agree that Austin looked kn@ckered but he is wickedly competitive. Can't believe he'll go gracefully. Expect some b1tchy comments from Austin in the press.

She's supposed to be Miss Whiplash anyway.
Monaogg
07-12-2008
They definitely overdid the training and if Erin returns next year she should cut down on the brightly coloured dresses in Ballroom and keep them for the Latin.
beanbean
07-12-2008
i like Erin but i would agree the AS wasnt great. ~I relaly hope people dont blame her for Austin leaving though. I felt so sorry for her when everyone was slating her for Colin not winning and i'd hate for it to happen all over again for her. She must be upset enough as it is.
Erin and Camilla dont seem to be very lucky despite having great celeb partners sometimes. It possibly is down to there choreography but who knows.
lizzydripping25
07-12-2008
Well, I am very sorry to see Austin go as he and Tom were 'my favourites'. However, I think Austin did the best he could with the cheorography that Erin gave him - which was not great

However, remembering her Doll Dance for Colin Jackson, she does seem to have occasional lapses, to say the least. Also I have never 'got' why a lot of people think she is so great at cheorography. Still very sad to see them go as I do not dislike Erin, just think she gets it wrong sometimes.
janetcomelately
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by beanbean:
“i like Erin but i would agree the AS wasnt great. ~I relaly hope people dont blame her for Austin leaving though. I felt so sorry for her when everyone was slating her for Colin not winning and i'd hate for it to happen all over again for her. She must be upset enough as it is.
Erin and Camilla dont seem to be very lucky despite having great celeb partners sometimes.”


To be fair, it was down to her that Colin did not win. He was a real talent and a performer and she should have made much more of the freestyle element via his arcobtaic abilities.

Camiila is not the best choreographer either but the pressure to come up with new dances every week to suit their partner must be immense.

I really hope Kristina is back next year and gets a great partner as I think she has a lot to give choreography wise.
ESPIONdansant
07-12-2008
Kristina and Austin!
Now that would have been good!
Sports Fan
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by ElectraPalatine:
“Would agree, all vaguely disappointing. But I do wonder whether Austin was just so knackered he couldn't raise the enthusiasm to perform. Never been a huge fan of Erin's, though I generally favour ballroom over latin.”

This is exactly what I thought. The routines simply seemed rather jaded.

I felt that Austin looked a tad fatigued. No usual oomph to the dances and performances.

He had mentioned how tired he felt on ITT once or twice, citing the training, twins etc, etc.

Quite simply this was the week it all caught up with him.
Pasta
07-12-2008
Such evidence as exists in the public domain suggests that Darren Gough had it in the bag before Colin and Erin so much as strapped the muppets to their feet. She certainly created great dances for Colin, including the second QS in the Xmas Special they won. She also has a proven track record in making less-good celebs passable.

Maybe we should be crediting her with how well Austin has done, rather than the final failure - there seem to have been limitations in what he could do technically over the last couple of weeks, maybe as a combination of tiredness, injuries, problems ajusting to two dances and even the 'muscles' issue.
ESPIONdansant
07-12-2008
I wasn't going to mention Muppetgate....
ElectraPalatine
07-12-2008
Muscles? Don't you mean 'guns' (?!?!)
swnymor1963
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“I agree that Austin looked kn@ckered but he is wickedly competitive. Can't believe he'll go gracefully. Expect some b1tchy comments from Austin in the press.

She's supposed to be Miss Whiplash anyway.”

Slightly off topic but I`v meaning to ask this question for weeks......well after every Saturday show.......Erin has great boobs.....are they all hers....ie no enhancement.....if their "oh naturale" then she`s been blessed.

ps....in all seriousness...this is a genuine question
ESPIONdansant
07-12-2008
There is some speculation that they have been recently enhanced.
You, unintelligible collection of consonants-person, are not the only one to have wondered about this!
pickledlily
07-12-2008
In defence of Erin, she did say on ITT that this would be the first time she had danced/choreographed Salsa, as in previous years she had been knocked out before she had to dance it.

I agree Austin did look tired, I read somewhere that he has been sleeping in a hotel a couple of nights because there was no rest at home as the twins weren't sleeping very well, pkus he has been training until ridiculous o'clock, they got locked in the gym where they train one night, had to set off the burglar alarm for the police to let them out.
Joelle1985
07-12-2008
Just saw this thread popping up..just wanted to say something for the pro's! The pro's who are still in the competition choreographed many routines the last couple of months. Some of them work..others are less succesful in the eyes of the public! Choreographing is a very difficult job! So much fun to do (i'm a former professional dancer), but it takes a lot of time and the pro's on SCD have to come up with something amazing EVERY week!! Don't blame everything on Erin or any of the other pro's in the future who have to leave the competition. Erin has done fantastic choreography in the past! Just look back at last week..she's not a latin dancer and paso is her least favorite dance, but that choreography was a HIT! Sure not everyone will agree with me on that, but that's just the thing with choreography..sometimes you hate, sometimes you love it! It's all about taste..BUT if you don't like it it doesn't mean it's not a good choreography! The AS this week contained all the steps, lovely music, spectacular lifts..but it just didn't click with the public! Why it didn't work?? Nobody knows..maybe they were too tired from all the training, maybe our expectations were too high, maybe..it just wasn't their evening..!
swnymor1963
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“There is some speculation that they have been recently enhanced.
You, unintelligible collection of consonants-person, are not the only one to have wondered about this!”

If you mean...swnymor it`s actually..Swn-y-Mor....which means "sound of the sea" in Welsh.Unfortunately you can`t use hyphens in user-names.....Swn-y-Mor is the name of my house.....and 1963 well I`ll let you use you imagination to work that one out.
ESPIONdansant
07-12-2008
How romantic.
Sound of the sea.

I had been thinking along the lines of Pig-on-the-moor but I'm glad to be corrected.
azucena
07-12-2008
I agree that overwork could have been a factor, I dance (although not to the same degree obviously!) and if you train for too many hours your muscles can just seize, you need to relax it the day of/before the competition at least so that you can free up again and give a fresh, 100% performance, if that makes sense. But then they seem quite perfectionist as a pair, not that that is necessarily a bad thing, but in this instance it may have led to Austin being pushed too far physically.

Meh, we'll never know. They're out now.
Joelle1985
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by pickledlily:
“In defence of Erin, she did say on ITT that this would be the first time she had danced/choreographed Salsa, as in previous years she had been knocked out before she had to dance it.”

It was indeed the first time she danced a Salsa (not as a groupdance) on SCD. I don't think she did much choreographing for it, because she called in the help of salsa-experts. For the dancing part..she's not a latin-dancer, but that wasn't a bad salsa! Her footwork is not perfect and she's still a ballroom dancer dancing latin..but I found it fun to watch !
Rhumbatugger
07-12-2008
Originally Posted by Pasta:
“Such evidence as exists in the public domain suggests that Darren Gough had it in the bag before Colin and Erin so much as strapped the muppets to their feet. She certainly created great dances for Colin, including the second QS in the Xmas Special they won. She also has a proven track record in making less-good celebs passable.

Maybe we should be crediting her with how well Austin has done, rather than the final failure - there seem to have been limitations in what he could do technically over the last couple of weeks, maybe as a combination of tiredness, injuries, problems ajusting to two dances and even the 'muscles' issue.”

I agree Pasa!

I feel I must also defend Erin here. Austin is a bit limited as a dancer. She did a brave and impressive bit of choreo with the paso - but at the end of the day, Austin lacks the grace and fluidity of Tom and the girls and it showed.

I thought she tried with the AS. It was a bit boring and nearly all in hold (I think to protect Austin, who can do agressive but not graceful alone.) But, I agree with many, seriously underwhelming.

Perhaps there just weren't any more ways to shield his weaknesses from view.

And he did look knackered.
Xassy
07-12-2008
Don't get me wrong, I think the pros do a fantastic job and I've really warmed to Erin this series. However, I wonder if Austin would have benefitted from someone like Lilia, who is better at choreographing Latin routines.
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