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Old 27-10-2003, 07:57
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Several forum members may not understand the references that have been mentioned several times between Cameron and the cult film,.The Wicker Man.

Well tonight you can get to watch it and find out.

Now when you watch the film,....you will see the "nice" image side of Cameron's persona.
If you haven't seen it, watch it, the Cameron similarity will have you with a perpetual smile on your face...The similarities are uncanny.

Minor conspiracy theory:---

When Scott told Cameron the Edward Woodward joke (Ewar Woowar)....why was Cameron laughing so much?

He was in such a state of giggles that they asked what was so funny about it,..saying it was funny, but not that funny.

It was as thought Cameron was having a private joke to himself that was exclusive from the others.
Like it was an injoke that only he was in on.
Eventually they were laughing at Cameron's reaction to the joke,..not the joke itself.

Imagine that Cameron had decided to try and behave a certain way in the house. If somebody was desperate enough,..isn't it plausible that they would use a character as a means of reference.
Watch the Edward Woodward character in tonight's film,..then ask yourself again, why was Cameron laughing so much at Scott's Ewar Woowar joke.
Could Cameron be laughing at the irony of the joke, not the joke itself. Laughing because Scott had mentioned Cameron's chosen persona to base his behaviour on?
Because Scott had accidentally hit on something completely by accident, and Cameron was amused that Scott didn't know the reality of what he had touched upon.
Laughing like a silly schoolboy because Scott didn't know, and couldn't possibly know,...but Cameron knew and was laughing at that.

Of course this theory is just for fun,...but you never know.
Don't ask me to back my theory up..because I can't...it's mere specualation, nothing more,.....but who could really know.

Anyway,....just watch The Wicker Man on Chanel 4 tonight at 1.05am (or record it)...then just watch the similarity betwen Cameron and the Edward Woodward character.

It's a great film anyway, so watch it for that reason alone.


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Old 27-10-2003, 08:49
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Reading up on severe law breakers partly the reason for their crimes is the vicarious thrill they get from being the perpetrator and knowing something you don't. The deed is being talked about, you are being talked about, but only you know it's yourself that committed the deed.
So how very well spotted Alrightmate, Camoron is definitely that sort who likes his "secrets" and would stand back and watch a calamity he'd instigated unfold, chortling to himself.
We have all wondered about the OTT laughter at the Edward Woodward joke and stranger things have happened, he's a bit of a one for "I know something you don't" isn't he? (Except he has to make up and tell us a totally bogus and lame secret when pressed on matters).
Well, that Wicker Man film is scarey, I wonder if I will see the connection and be nodding sagely - I have a suspicion I will be.
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Old 27-10-2003, 09:03
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Also those new to the Wicker man...look out for the erotic dance scene....Cameron certainly wouldn't approve.....
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Old 27-10-2003, 10:16
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I messed up hannibal sorry -clutzville.Arizona.

Only very minor though.

Build it and they will come???

More like the second one-feminine -feminine-feminine


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Old 27-10-2003, 10:46
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Originally posted by Mesostim
Also those new to the Wicker man...look out for the erotic dance scene....Cameron certainly wouldn't approve.....

Sorry my video will be set for something else.

Presumably Cameroon's video packed up before the ending?

Poor Betty.

Agree with the boom-boom-I would swing for that -no question.

Gotta hop-there is so much for us to do-and for you to do if you can be arsed.

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Old 27-10-2003, 11:18
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Originally posted by Mesostim
Also those new to the Wicker man...look out for the erotic dance scene....Cameron certainly wouldn't approve.....
messed up hannibal sorry -clutzville.Arizona.

Only very minor though.

Build it and they will come???

More like the second one-feminine -feminine-feminine


Gotta Hop

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Old 27-10-2003, 12:15
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thats it !!!!! ...if you lot here aren't prepared to share that spliff then ...

i'm out of here .....

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Old 27-10-2003, 19:47
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Should have mentioned in the first post...

...for a special treat,....imagine Cameron facing the same dilemna as Edward Woodward in the final climactic scene.
But also imagine the villagers in that scene, as all the forum members here.
That should heighten your enjoyment of the final scene immensely.

Oh yes.

You'll know what I mean when you see it.


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Old 27-10-2003, 20:32
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Originally posted by Alrightmate
Several forum members may not understand the references that have been mentioned several times between Cameron and the cult film,.The Wicker Man.

Well tonight you can get to watch it and find out.

Now when you watch the film,....you will see the "nice" image side of Cameron's persona.
If you haven't seen it, watch it, the Cameron similarity will have you with a perpetual smile on your face...The similarities are uncanny.

Minor conspiracy theory:---

When Scott told Cameron the Edward Woodward joke (Ewar Woowar)....why was Cameron laughing so much?

He was in such a state of giggles that they asked what was so funny about it,..saying it was funny, but not that funny.

It was as thought Cameron was having a private joke to himself that was exclusive from the others.
Like it was an injoke that only he was in on.
Eventually they were laughing at Cameron's reaction to the joke,..not the joke itself.

Imagine that Cameron had decided to try and behave a certain way in the house. If somebody was desperate enough,..isn't it plausible that they would use a character as a means of reference.
Watch the Edward Woodward character in tonight's film,..then ask yourself again, why was Cameron laughing so much at Scott's Ewar Woowar joke.
Could Cameron be laughing at the irony of the joke, not the joke itself. Laughing because Scott had mentioned Cameron's chosen persona to base his behaviour on?
Because Scott had accidentally hit on something completely by accident, and Cameron was amused that Scott didn't know the reality of what he had touched upon.
Laughing like a silly schoolboy because Scott didn't know, and couldn't possibly know,...but Cameron knew and was laughing at that.

Of course this theory is just for fun,...but you never know.
Don't ask me to back my theory up..because I can't...it's mere specualation, nothing more,.....but who could really know.

Anyway,....just watch The Wicker Man on Chanel 4 tonight at 1.05am (or record it)...then just watch the similarity betwen Cameron and the Edward Woodward character.

It's a great film anyway, so watch it for that reason alone.



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Old 28-10-2003, 01:11
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OMG. Freaky.
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Old 28-10-2003, 04:01
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Originally posted by piranhaville
OMG. Freaky.
Originally posted by mcmulder 26-07-2003 06:00
Guest of Honour at the annual Wicker Man festival.

So many connections. It stars Ewar Woowoo, they sacrifice a high profile virgin, and could we finally have an explanation for why he loves those apples?
Channel 4 web site
The Return of Ewar Woowar
Day 58, 02:40

As the boys discussed people with silly names, Cameron laughed for a full 2 minutes 20 seconds with barely a breath...

Echoes of an early night of jokes came back to entertain the boys when, lying in bed with lights-out, Cameron asked, "Who's the famous person with the funniest name?"

After a couple of suggestions, Scott cast his mind back to a joke told early in the House and said, "Ewar Woowar".

What followed was one of those rare moments of side-clutching agony as Cameron launched on a laughing fit that went on and on. Any longer and Big Brother would have had to call him in to the Diary Room for some oxygen and a sedative.

Scott's understated comment was so innocuous that Ray missed it, but it didn't matter, it was one of those fits that loses sight of the origin and just turns into hysteria at the hysteria.

After about a minute of doing some quite impressive roaring himself, Ray piped up that he needed a slight reminder of the joke, causing another wave.

"Why has Edward Woodward got four 'd's' in his name? Because Ewar Woowar sounds stupid."

After about a minute and a half of sitting up, stumbling around and clutching his face, Cameron managed a, "You're not right in the head Scott."

All Ray could say was "Jesus man," but that did nothing to sober the Bible-loving Scotsman.

In fact he joined in saying, "Oh mighty," before trying to stifle his laughter with his duvet.

"They do say timing is everything," said Cameron before Ray brought up the subject of Nush's top comic moments.

The crowing glory he said was her comment about being "the mountain of ming... In fact I'm Kili-ming-jaro," but that one didn't have quite the same effect second time round.

Like he said, it's all in the timing.
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Old 28-10-2003, 16:48
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I am indebted to Alrightmate for what I have written here:

It was always puzzling why Camoron, despite many examples of over-acting, over-gurning, going OTT at the prospect of jelly AND icecream should really lay it on with a trowel with Scott’s Ewar Woowra (Edward Woodward) joke where Camoron made a complete bottom of himself laughing like a demented drain for over 2 minutes. It was painful to watch but has Alrightmate happened upon why this tickled the Orrid Orcadian so?
It has now been mooted that Camoron may have based his fake persona on Edward Woodward’s Police Sergeant Neil Howie’s role in the cult classic film “The Wicker Man”.
You know, I think there’s quite a bit to it, so I decided to see the allegorical similarities, so here goes.

The Wicker Man film is about a remote Scottish Island where the natives are Pagan and the hero of the tale is Sgt Howie, a devout Christian virgin played by Edward Woodward summoned to find a missing child. Already we have 4 coincidences.
So we have a clean cut virginal bible-basher who is eventually held captive by a bunch of Pagans. Analgous so far? Bible basher, virgin, remote Scottish Isle, it’s Edward Woodward, the parody of whose name sent Camoron into fits? Maybe we might begin to see the irony.
Early on in BB4 we had Camoron + Apple. Apple in hand, apple on head, apple up..well, apples apples apples. ANd what was the film about? A failed apple orchard crop and the need for a sacrifice to the gods to remedy that for next year.
So, is that why the apples Camoron? Everyone remarked on it, from me to you to Dermot to the BB psychologists! (By the way, in the film Woodward wants his “after” whilst in the diary room of the Green Man an apple, but Britt can’t give him one (or an apple!) because of the crop failure!
Oh, the Sgt turns up on this island flying his own light aircraft! Och!
Also, later on, we see the temptation scenes - in The Wicker Man we have a naked Eckland shakin that ass and WooWar in the next room sweating cobs trying to resist temptation. In BB4 we have a starkers soapy Anouska and Camoron stood in the bathroom with her, doubtless hoping the bromide had kicked in. (I bet)
So there you have it.
Alrightmate was all right. Mate! His fake persona IS Edward Woodward as Sgt Howie in The Wicker Man.
Pick the bones out of that!!
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Old 29-10-2003, 13:34
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...AND there were chickens in that Wicker Man, just like in the BB garden!
What more proof do you need
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Old 29-10-2003, 17:05
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Originally posted by maisymoo
...AND there were chickens in that Wicker Man, just like in the BB garden!
What more proof do you need
You seem one of the most thoughtfull and intelligent posters on this forum.

Why have you not been invited round for tea and biscuits yet.?
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Old 29-10-2003, 18:17
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One wouldn't want to presume!
Earl Grey and Garibaldis might that be?
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Old 29-10-2003, 20:50
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Oo er

Found something interesting on google, being the online journal of ' an orcadian lass '

The diary entry for 18th June is particularly interesting.

Snippets............

" Poor Cameron - it looks as if he might be for the chop from Big Brother : there seems to be an attempt to portray him as a fundamentalist authoritarian prude by sly editing and the ill-informed opinions of those obsessed with living their lives watching live streams through their umbical cord-like computers."

It might not be immediately apparent when you view the original but the words 'ill-informed opinions' are a link to the 'Psychological Assessment' thread on this forum


Another snippet

" Perhaps it was thought he could be a real-life Sargent Neil Howie from The Wicker Man: a strongly Christian man lured to a pagan island to investigate a disappearance. His faith is ridiculed and he is sacrificed to benefit the isle's fertility.

In Cameron maybe the 'casting directors' (for there must be such a cabal in Big Brother) saw a man with strongly bound morals and hoped he would unfurl in the presence of what was hoped he'd see as the wanton debauchery of his housemates "

That's actually nearly all of it, but read the full story here, with a little ( neutral ) piccie of the man himself


It's the opposite of what most of us think
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Old 29-10-2003, 21:01
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lovely, swing....
if you go to "about me" on that page there seems to be some sort of "sacrificial pole" in her garden.
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Old 29-10-2003, 21:05
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Thanks Swingaleg. (the other leg, not the wooden one!)

Ah well, seems Alrightmate has a point.
As I have wroted to be smoted, there's something afoot (sorry swing, all these lower-limb related bits!!)

But as I went to sleep last night I took with me the possible absurd notion that somehow the Endemalls and the Camorons of this world maybe were actually linked in this way.
There's little doubt now, that to me, they (the Endemalls) had Camoron down as "winner" in their script. Many of us knew this with maybe 4 to 5 weeks to go on BB4.
We could not imagine why.
Alrightmate (and Swing and a few more)maybe has put the finger of fate on the whole matter.
The allegory that is The wicker Man!
Well, they are lacking in imagination at C4 that's for sure and they maybe thought that they were taking too much flack for immoral practices re BB. So engaged a man of virtue, Camoron (er, I think he's a total git btw and they messed up big time) to illuminate that their Golden Goose Big Brother can be won by a blameless blundering (boring) buffoon. Er, a nice bloke they thought. They will have sat around tables, meetings, lots of catering and crap poncey food discussing this.
That they required an embodiment to their borrowed template (The Wicker Man) failed (that is they got Camoron, who failed badly to maintain the act of being saintly) makes me laugh til the next overtly bogus bomb hoax at Elstree scenario.
Look. This country is run (ha!) on manufactured disinformation, so it's not beyond the lower echelons to do likewise.
C4 - try a bit harder. Some of us have your combined wit and wisdom even when we are asleep. That's where you went wrong. Assuming we are all as credulous and bereft as you.
Take a stroll here. These people make mincemeat of you.
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Old 29-10-2003, 21:28
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From another blog
BIG BROTHER: IS A PATTERN EMERGING?

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As it seems that the show has been manipulated to help camp Cameron to win maybe more sinister and devious forces are at work. Think about it: Cameron is a middle-aged bible-bashing Scottish virgin who has turned down a blatant offer of sex from a brazen beauty ... Isn't it obvious? This is a wholesale recreation of the plot from the seminal 1973 horror hit The Wicker Man!
Can't wait then for the climax where Cameron, alone in the house after winning the carefully-staged competition, awaits his call from Davina, only to be beseiged by the evicted housemates who tie him to a straw effigy, set him alight, and roll him down the walk of shame while McCall and O'Leary don daft wigs and lead the assembled masses into stirring renditions of pagan tunes.
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Old 29-10-2003, 21:41
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How very nice to see you again Tamara.
And on what good note, too.
This is Alrightmate's doing this!
Then I had to take a close look, sa did Skazza..Swingaleg..et al..

It's rather fascinating eh?

Well done Alrightmate. How did you match up this allegory?
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Old 29-10-2003, 21:46
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Just been to that link Tamara
WOW!
Early July too!

How very very strange.
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Old 29-10-2003, 21:49
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Good link tamara, nice to see you again.
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Old 29-10-2003, 22:22
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Thanks maisymoo and grim... I have decided to post back since some people got bored and found out "it's no fun playing with dead mice" ojo ... charming
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Old 29-10-2003, 22:29
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Everyone will thank you, Tamara.
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Old 29-10-2003, 22:32
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nice to see you back, tamara...

interesting link!
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