Austin the weakest and most overrated dancer

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Hayfever

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“I agree about him not progressing

in my opinion his best dances were his waltz and jive, both of which were danced early on

he also appeared a bit 'tight' in the upper body and couldn't cross his legs properly

I think it was right that he was in the final four but not to go any further”

Agree totally. I didn't think he would be out at this stage of the competition but he was the weakest on Saturday night. All this furore - have folks lost cash betting on him to win?? Seems the only explanation for the level of angst.

Dark Drums

08-12-2008

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fatskia

08-12-2008

Austin hadn't had any dance training before starting training with Erin - I believe him. That means that he progressed more before we got to see him, than anyone in the history of SCD, and unfortunately only Erin got to see that.
He was the highest scorer with the judges until last week and the public liked him too.
He had one bad week.

ladygardener

08-12-2008

Quote:
“Thank God Mr Smug got sent packing last week. I was so happy. He is the only dancer that never progessed as the weeks went by certainly not a deserving winner of SCD. If he won it would have been another Darren Gough.”

Thank goodness someone else agrees with me. He was overrated by the judges for most of the series, asked for undeserved 10s and got them and even believed in his own hype. I don't believe he was that popular with the public but whilst there were still competitors in who were lower down the leader board, he could survive. Once it got to the final 4, the maths were against him. Even if he'd been top of the judges leaderboard, if the public didn't like him and put him last in their votes, he would still have been in the dance off.

qwertyqueen

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by teewoods:
“No rhythm and nothing special

Thank God Mr Smug got sent packing last week. I was so happy. He is the only dancer that never progessed as the weeks went by certainly not a deserving winner of SCD. If he won it would have been another Darren Gough.

Tom or Rachel to win is fine by me ”

Yep

Hayfever

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by ladygardener:
“Thank goodness someone else agrees with me. He was overrated by the judges for most of the series, asked for undeserved 10s and got them and even believed in his own hype. I don't believe he was that popular with the public but whilst there were still competitors in who were lower down the leader board, he could survive. Once it got to the final 4, the maths were against him. Even if he'd been top of the judges leaderboard, if the public didn't like him and put him last in their votes, he would still have been in the dance off.”

All this about Austin being the most popular. Don't know what world folks are living in as it isn't anywhere near me. Everyone I speak to thought he was brilliant at the beginning but have come to realise that this hasn't developed during the show. Even if they put votes in for him a few weeks ago they aren't now. Funnily enough they vote for the best dancer(s) on the night. Rachel vote is increasing with many swopping from Austin to Rachel amongst those at work today.

bevey

08-12-2008

Oh for goodness sake, Austin has been more consistent than any of the other dancers. His average score is better and his total marks are higher. Had he not been in the dance off he would likely have won, this was instigated by the judges. Its a complete farce this year, and threads like these are vicious for the sake of being vicious

laura21

08-12-2008

I certainly don't think he was a weak or overrated dancer. I thought he was very consistent and a very good dancer although I don't think he was at his best on Saturday.

His first dance was very good and scored very well so it was always going to be difficult for him to progress and improve like some of the others who started off at a lower standard.

Dollystanford

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by bevey:
“Oh for goodness sake, Austin has been more consistent than any of the other dancers. His average score is better and his total marks are higher.”

but surely marks are irrelevant as the judges have a preordained result and they are overmarking/undermarking (delete as applicable) to ensure it happens?

Surely Tom has actually been just as consistent if you compare his marks week on week

bevey

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by Dollystanford:
“but surely marks are irrelevant as the judges have a preordained result and they are overmarking/undermarking (delete as applicable) to ensure it happens?

Surely Tom has actually been just as consistent if you compare his marks week on week”

Im not saying he hasnt just that all the marks have been irrelevant as you are right the judges have done what they needed to to get a boy/girl final, they wanted Rachel there well she will be!!! It just frustrates and angers me that Austin is being slated when he has been great every week!!!!

pickledgherkin

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“I don't think he was the weakest but I do think he peaked too soon”

I think you are right welwynrose.
However he did come fourth and that is no mean feat.

RichmondBlue

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by laura21:
“I certainly don't think he was a weak or overrated dancer. I thought he was very consistent and a very good dancer although I don't think he was at his best on Saturday.

His first dance was very good and scored very well so it was always going to be difficult for him to progress and improve like some of the others who started off at a lower standard.”

I agree. What is all this nonsense about the "journey" a dancer is making ? Austin started looking like a natural dancer and was clearly the best performer in the opening few weeks. He has not "progressed" as much as others because he started so well in comparison ! Lisa started as a rubbish dancer and is now just about competent. Tom, Rachel and Austin were running neck and neck in my opinion..Good or very good, depending on the choice of dance.

pappy h

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“Is there such a thing as 'peaking too early'?”

I'm sure I've heard a comment like that about me before...

CASPER1066

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by pappy h:
“I'm sure I've heard a comment like that about me before... ”

hahahahahahaha

CASPER1066

08-12-2008

Its not Austin which is weak, Lisa is the weakest......

beauty-1

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by teewoods:
“Ok he does have a bit of rhythm but as you pointed out he is very stiff. Salsa dance was like he was dancing in slow motion. You can tell someone’s rhythm by the speed and fluidity they move. Austin’s dancing involved a lot of trickery and posturing. This was cleverly used to mask and limit his dancing.

Perhaps he peeked too early? The problem with being the favourite is that you have to live up to the it and he fell along the road side. No thanks to his arrogance.

I used to support him but his attitude made me switch to Tom. Oh and I support Rachel only because she is given a hard time on this forum for not having a personality. The same forum which lambasted JS for not dancing but only relying on his persona.”

Me too! That is why I was glad he was in the bottom two. He became a bit too cocky as well aggressively competitive and started to use to many tricks. In the passo, where he was very overmaked there was hardly any content, although I did enjoy the theatre of it. I kept saying, when is he going to start? Bu then Erin could have given him more to do. He didn't like it at all when the judges criticised him. His salsa wasn't great, as he was stiff. He left at the right time and appart form the last couple of weeks I did enjoy watching him.

Miss Moneypenny

08-12-2008

I totally agree with him being overrated. When Arlene put him next to Tom in the Saturday night fever group dance,,she did him no favours as Tom was so superior to him. Thank goodness he is gone,and the best male celeb that has ever been on strictly in my opinion has been Colin Jackson.

square_is

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by bevey:
“Oh for goodness sake, Austin has been more consistent than any of the other dancers. His average score is better and his total marks are higher. Had he not been in the dance off he would likely have won, this was instigated by the judges. Its a complete farce this year, and threads like these are vicious for the sake of being vicious ”

Well said

SCD-Observer

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by Hayfever:
“All this about Austin being the most popular. Don't know what world folks are living in as it isn't anywhere near me. Everyone I speak to thought he was brilliant at the beginning but have come to realise that this hasn't developed during the show. Even if they put votes in for him a few weeks ago they aren't now. Funnily enough they vote for the best dancer(s) on the night. Rachel vote is increasing with many swopping from Austin to Rachel amongst those at work today.”

Everyone? Like three? Ten?

Originally Posted by beauty-1:
“Me too! That is why I was glad he was in the bottom two. He became a bit too cocky as well aggressively competitive and started to use to many tricks. In the passo, where he was very overmaked there was hardly any content, although I did enjoy the theatre of it. I kept saying, when is he going to start? Bu then Erin could have given him more to do. He didn't like it at all when the judges criticised him. His salsa wasn't great, as he was stiff. He left at the right time and appart form the last couple of weeks I did enjoy watching him.”

He didn't like it? Can you really say the other three left will be leaping for joy, smiling from ear to ear when they hear the judges criticising them? Case in point: Lisa and Brendan's woeful attempt at justifying themselves backstage from that above-average-at-best jive.

knawtitypaos

08-12-2008

What UTTER garbage. Austin was the only entertaining dancer in the show. From now on it will be so dull and boring

Lisa - Boring
Tom - Dull
Rachel - Boring and Dull

lach doch mal

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Everyone? Like three? Ten?

He didn't like it? Can you really say the other three left will be leaping for joy, smiling from ear to ear when they hear the judges criticising them? Case in point: Lisa and Brendan's woeful attempt at justifying themselves backstage from that above-average-at-best jive.”

Thanks SCD observer for speaking some sense

. I'm really surprised that no-one has picked up their petulant behaviour (which really put me off them straight away.

As to Austin, he had a off night, and I agree the dance off was fair (see you can not like a couple, and still think they danced better than your favourites). With regards to the title of this thread. That's absolutely ridiculous, and I'm sure the OP knows it. Austin was above average, he was very good. Maybe he wasn't the best dancer on Saturday night, but he has given us some very entertaining and competent dances. However I assume that people are entitled to their POV even if they are unsubstantiated. I've changed my allegiance firmly to Tom and Camilla (particularly after tonight). This is a dancing competition, but it's also about personality, and although I have never been a Camilla fan, those two are trully delightful.

knawtitypaos

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Thanks SCD observer for speaking some sense. I'm really surprised that no-one has picked up their petulant behaviour (which really put me off them straight away.

As to Austin, he had a off night, and I agree the dance off was fair (see you can not like a couple, and still think they danced better than your favourites). With regards to the title of this thread. That's absolutely ridiculous, and I'm sure the OP knows it. Austin was above average, he was very good. Maybe he wasn't the best dancer on Saturday night, but he has given us some very entertaining and competent dances. However I assume that people are entitled to their POV even if they are unsubstantiated. I've changed my allegiance firmly to Tom and Camilla (particularly after tonight). This is a dancing competition, but it's also about personality, and although I have never been a Camilla fan, those two are trully delightful.”

But it ISNT a dance competition, not primarily. It's an entertainment program. It goes out at 18:00 on a Saturday evening, light-entertainment hour.

If it was strictly a dance competition, we would all be clammering for Come Dancing to return

lach doch mal

08-12-2008

Originally Posted by knawtitypaos:
“But it ISNT a dance competition, not primarily. It's an entertainment program. It goes out at 18:00 on a Saturday evening, light-entertainment hour.

If it was strictly a dance competition, we would all be clammering for Come Dancing to return”

I can only assume that you didn't read my post properly

. Read it again! By the way I couldn't agree with you more. It's an entertainment programme with an dance element.

SCD-Observer

08-12-2008

No one says it's STRICTLY a dance competition. But it's a dance competition of beginners with loads of reality entertainment razzmatazz and camp thrown in.

I am really sick of people (not you!) throwing around comments like 'Austin (or anyone left in the competition for that matter) is overrated','smug','dull' or 'lacks rhythm'.

It doesn't take an expert to see Austin does have loads of dance talent for a novice and being musically trained myself I can see how musical he can be.

It only exposed the utter ignorance of the posters who made such a nonsensical comments, y'know kinda showing them up to be the fraud.

Beside, such posts often savour strongly of bitterness and sometimes in my mind I have this uncharitable thought that they will be so bitter that they would choke in their own bile if left unchecked.

Servalan

09-12-2008

Er - you may find that you are living in a world out of sync with many others ...

Austin was, according to the leaked figures, only marginally less popular than Tom. Rachel and Lisa fall some way behind this - and before you dismiss those figures, check out the voting pattern each week and who has been in the dance-off.

By all means enjoy voting for Rachel (or whoever you want), but I suspect you may find that she has less public support than you imagine - and being branded as The Judges' Favourite may have some part to play in that.

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