Originally Posted by Wiz Net:
“Casper 1066 - the voice of reason
...”
“Casper 1066 - the voice of reason
...”
There's a first! 
***runs for her life!***
Fools And Their Money
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Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Public dont wan Lisa, they have put her in the dance off three times....judges keep saving her at the expense of someone else.......thats not their job.”
“Public dont wan Lisa, they have put her in the dance off three times....judges keep saving her at the expense of someone else.......thats not their job.”
Wrong I'm afraid - and this has been stated by at least two of the judges before, they are there to judge the dance and the technical aspects of it.
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“ There's a first!
***runs for her life!***”
“
There's a first! ***runs for her life!***”
Chasinngggggg".....boot up the butt.
......cheeky
"innocent look".....
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“anybody can SEE they are not judging on ability....its selective marking...........thats not the rules of the game”
“anybody can SEE they are not judging on ability....its selective marking...........thats not the rules of the game”
Actually I haven't really disagreed with the rankings this year. I just disagree with the dance-off.
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“ Chasinngggggg".....
boot up the butt.......cheeky
"innocent look".....”
“
Chasinngggggg".....boot up the butt.
......cheeky"innocent look".....
”
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“"Making up voo doo doll of JB".........sharpening pins.....”
“"Making up voo doo doll of JB".........sharpening pins.....”
Noooo! I'll behave I promise!
***walks away slowly rubbing her sore bum***
Originally Posted by Saturn:
“Actually I haven't really disagreed with the rankings this year. I just disagree with the dance-off.”
“Actually I haven't really disagreed with the rankings this year. I just disagree with the dance-off.”
I disagree with the judges selective marking through out the show.....its ruining it....
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Public dont wan Lisa, they have put her in the dance off three times....judges keep saving her at the expense of someone else.......thats not their job.”
“Public dont wan Lisa, they have put her in the dance off three times....judges keep saving her at the expense of someone else.......thats not their job.”
Yes, their keeping couples that have little public support is really annoying (and they have been doing it since the DO was introduced). No wonder SCD viewing figures are now below X Factor's, while it was the opposite earlier in the season.
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“I disagree with the judges selective marking through out the show.....its ruining it....”
“I disagree with the judges selective marking through out the show.....its ruining it....
”
I haven't really spotted any of that going on.
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Noooo! I'll behave I promise!
***walks away slowly rubbing her sore bum***”
“Noooo! I'll behave I promise!
***walks away slowly rubbing her sore bum***
”
ok your forgiven......
(putting voo doo doll back in cupboard)...for now
thats some size of a butt........
Well I must admit I let myself get sucked into voting again this year after swearing I wouldn't, and, yes, when Austin went I did think oh what a waste of money that was, and not even with the comfort of knowing some of it went to charity this year.
Then again, no-one forced me to vote, I could and probably should have used a bit of self-control, and there are much worse things in the world to worry about.
Then again, no-one forced me to vote, I could and probably should have used a bit of self-control, and there are much worse things in the world to worry about.
Sorry I'm spoiling the thread.
Cas knows I think certain judges make more allowances for one celeb's weaknesses than the other couples when it comes to their marks - it is not a level playing field.
It never has been but the ridiculous number of times the same celeb has been in the dance off this year highlights this even more than normal.
Cas knows I think certain judges make more allowances for one celeb's weaknesses than the other couples when it comes to their marks - it is not a level playing field.
It never has been but the ridiculous number of times the same celeb has been in the dance off this year highlights this even more than normal.
Originally Posted by letsdance:
“Yes, their keeping couples that have little public support is really annoying (and they have been doing it since the DO was introduced). No wonder SCD viewing figures are now below X Factor's, while it was the opposite earlier in the season.”
“Yes, their keeping couples that have little public support is really annoying (and they have been doing it since the DO was introduced). No wonder SCD viewing figures are now below X Factor's, while it was the opposite earlier in the season.”
its fairly simple to see what they are doing, infact I can just about give the scores BEFORE the dance takes place.
People will stop taking an interest ,if they feel they have no part in it.
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“anybody can SEE they are not judging on ability....its selective marking...........thats not the rules of the game”
“anybody can SEE they are not judging on ability....its selective marking...........thats not the rules of the game”
Okay, they supposedly judge on who produces the better performance during the dance off.
I'm not qualified to say whether their judgment is correct since I know naff all about the ins and outs of dancing as regards heel leads and all of that.
At the end of the day, most series have ended up with the most accomplished dancer taking the title regardless of so called manipulations, favouritism etc.
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Public dont wan Lisa, they have put her in the dance off three times....judges keep saving her at the expense of someone else.......thats not their job.”
“Public dont wan Lisa, they have put her in the dance off three times....judges keep saving her at the expense of someone else.......thats not their job.”
Well they haven't actually - it's not a negative vote.
We don't know that the public don't like her or want her out - she may well have been people's second/third favourite for a long time. We just don't know. She's been one of my favourites for ages, never my top, but then again, I, like many others, don't vote until at least the semis.
Only a small percentage of the viewing public actually vote (particularly when multiple votes are taken into consideration).
Originally Posted by Chiaroscuro:
“Well I must admit I let myself get sucked into voting again this year after swearing I wouldn't, and, yes, when Austin went I did think oh what a waste of money that was, and not even with the comfort of knowing some of it went to charity this year. Then again, no-one forced me to vote, I could and probably should have used a bit of self-control, and there are much worse things in the world to worry about.”
“Well I must admit I let myself get sucked into voting again this year after swearing I wouldn't, and, yes, when Austin went I did think oh what a waste of money that was, and not even with the comfort of knowing some of it went to charity this year. Then again, no-one forced me to vote, I could and probably should have used a bit of self-control, and there are much worse things in the world to worry about.”
I dont think the BBC are supporting any charity this year.
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Sorry I'm spoiling the thread.
Cas knows I think certain judges make more allowances for one celeb's weaknesses than the other couples when it comes to their marks - it is not a level playing field.
It never has been but the ridiculous number of times the same celeb has been in the dance off this year highlights this even more than normal.”
“Sorry I'm spoiling the thread.
Cas knows I think certain judges make more allowances for one celeb's weaknesses than the other couples when it comes to their marks - it is not a level playing field.
It never has been but the ridiculous number of times the same celeb has been in the dance off this year highlights this even more than normal.”
yes, its like........YOU WILL LIKE HER....WE TELL YOU TO.
PS
you never spoil a thread.....
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“I dont think the BBC are supporting any charity this year.”
“I dont think the BBC are supporting any charity this year.
”
Read it again.
I said not even with the comfort of knowing ... blah blah.
Originally Posted by stillrockin:
“Okay, they supposedly judge on who produces the better performance during the dance off.
I'm not qualified to say whether their judgment is correct since I know naff all about the ins and outs of dancing as regards heel leads and all of that.
At the end of the day, most series have ended up with the most accomplished dancer taking the title regardless of so called manipulations, favouritism etc.”
“Okay, they supposedly judge on who produces the better performance during the dance off.
I'm not qualified to say whether their judgment is correct since I know naff all about the ins and outs of dancing as regards heel leads and all of that.
At the end of the day, most series have ended up with the most accomplished dancer taking the title regardless of so called manipulations, favouritism etc.”
Thats not the point,...the judges have 50% of the say we have the other 50%.
The judges are voiding our vote by over marking the ones who have no public or little public support, putting out someone else to do that. Thats not the rules of the show. They should not be over marking to protect.
They get to choose in the dance off..
Originally Posted by Chiaroscuro:
“Read it again.
I said not even with the comfort of knowing ... blah blah.”
“Read it again.
I said not even with the comfort of knowing ... blah blah.”
not even with the comfort of know what? they are or are not supporting charity?
thats confusing.
Originally Posted by Shinyperson:
“Well they haven't actually - it's not a negative vote.
We don't know that the public don't like her or want her out - she may well have been people's second/third favourite for a long time. We just don't know. She's been one of my favourites for ages, never my top, but then again, I, like many others, don't vote until at least the semis.
Only a small percentage of the viewing public actually vote (particularly when multiple votes are taken into consideration).”
“Well they haven't actually - it's not a negative vote.
We don't know that the public don't like her or want her out - she may well have been people's second/third favourite for a long time. We just don't know. She's been one of my favourites for ages, never my top, but then again, I, like many others, don't vote until at least the semis.
Only a small percentage of the viewing public actually vote (particularly when multiple votes are taken into consideration).”
she has high judges score..but has been in the dance off three times......even the judges have stated she does not have public support.........thats why they are over marking her coz a proper score added to the public score would put her in the dance off with probably Rachel. As Tom and Austin were getting alot of public support. Thats why Austin HAD to be marked so low last week to get him into the dance off.
Be interesting what happens this week.......just watch the judges....
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Thats not the point,...the judges have 50% of the say we have the other 50%.”
“Thats not the point,...the judges have 50% of the say we have the other 50%.”
Yes, and the judges use their 50% of the vote to vote on the technical aspects of the dance.
Quote:
“The judges are voiding our vote by over marking the ones who have no public or little public support,”
“The judges are voiding our vote by over marking the ones who have no public or little public support,”
It is not their job to simply acquiesce to the public's opinion, they judge the dance and the choreography. Otherwise, there is no need for them to be there.
Quote:
“ Thats not the rules of the show.”
“ Thats not the rules of the show.”
Can you point me to the rules that indicate as you suggest?
Oh, silly me, it's yet another one of those conspiracies isn't it ......
i do think there should be a rule of "three strikes and your out". If the public isnt voting for you that many times it does get a bit ridiculous.
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Thats not the point,...the judges have 50% of the say we have the other 50%.
The judges are voiding our vote by over marking the ones who have no public or little public support, putting out someone else to do that. Thats not the rules of the show. They should not be over marking to protect.
They get to choose in the dance off..”
“Thats not the point,...the judges have 50% of the say we have the other 50%.
The judges are voiding our vote by over marking the ones who have no public or little public support, putting out someone else to do that. Thats not the rules of the show. They should not be over marking to protect.
They get to choose in the dance off..”
I realise that that's your contention.
However, I know nothing about the technical requirements of these various dances but with regularity I have managed week on week to have the leader board in practically the same order as the 'professional' judges.
At the moment, notwithstanding the public vote, the final decision rests with the judges during the dance off.
If people can't accept the format of the Show and the glaring truth of where the final decision lies they'd be better off not voting and not taking things quite so seriously IMO.
Originally Posted by CASPER1066:
“Thats not the point,...the judges have 50% of the say we have the other 50%.
The judges are voiding our vote by over marking the ones who have no public or little public support, putting out someone else to do that. Thats not the rules of the show. They should not be over marking to protect.
They get to choose in the dance off..”
“Thats not the point,...the judges have 50% of the say we have the other 50%.
The judges are voiding our vote by over marking the ones who have no public or little public support, putting out someone else to do that. Thats not the rules of the show. They should not be over marking to protect.
They get to choose in the dance off..”
But you're speculating... many people don't see huge machiavellian schemes. They just see that sometimes they agree with the judges sometimes they don't. Why are we so worked up on here?
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